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Hi - please be aware there is a discussion at the noticeboard regarding some disputed content and join in the discussion at the BLP noticeboard - here - thanks - Youreallycan ( talk) 18:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
(BLP violation removed) Elizium23 ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Adding another comment by 108. from my Talk page:
Is Reuters considered a reliable source? http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/19/us-quest-idUSN1832900220080419 I note that in Don King's article, a reference is made to the fact that he killed two people. Why can this exist and not the informetion on Richard Quest? Again, thank you in advance.
-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Just to clarify, these incidents occurred in 2008. The Reuters article states that after Quest's arrest Quest appeared in court. The Reuters article is a mite confusing about what he was arrested for (in one place it says violating the park curfew and in another it says for possession of a controlled substance). According to Quest's attorney, the judge said he would dismiss the case if Quest attended counseling. The judge ordered 6 months of counseling (one presumes for drug issues, but the article doesn't say), and one also has to presume that the case was dismissed, although again the article doesn't explicitly say that.
WP:BLPCRIME states that we should not include material in a BLP article about a crime the person may have committed unless the person has been convicted. Here, there is no indication that Quest was convicted of anything. In addition, the details reported by The Post and Huffington are more properly confined to tabloids, and not to Wikipedia (Huffington happily alludes to this stuff as "lurid details"). He was not arrested for any sexual offense or charged with any sexual offense. Thus, to insert those details is WP:COATRACK and a further BLP violation.
Put more simply, this is crap about a minor contretemps that occurred four years ago that is more noteworthy for the "lurid details" than for anything else. It negatively impacts a BLP, it has little or no relevance to his Wikipedia article, and it cannot be included.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
BLP/N discussion results in the current edit. When a judge orders drug counseling - it meets the WP threshhold.
Collect (
talk) 12:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Most of the time, you have people adding defamatory info. This time, we have the opposite case: people being a bit overzealous with BLP. The issue at hand is Quest's arrest and what he had then in addition to drugs. Here are a few sources:
arrest records are public record in the USA and fully reportable by any publication, (BLP violation removed) 217.16.113.220 ( talk) 19:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
The job of editors is to determine what is, and what is not, of encyclopedic value to readers.
WP:BLP effectively tells us all to use the "blue pencil" rather than damage any person. Cheers.
Collect (
talk) 11:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Given the ongoing edit-warring to add material violating WP:BLP, including by editors who should know better, I have requested pending changes protection for this article at WP:RFPP. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 22:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
IMO is UNDUE and I suggest we determine if there is consensus for its inclusion in the BLP. Collect ( talk) 13:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
It appears to be unrelated to any criminal charges whatsoever, and is about as relevant as saying some was arrested "while reading the Daily News" or the like, or "wearing blue jeans." Material which is not of actual encyclopedic value should not be in a BLP. Collect ( talk) 13:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Seems like the covid and long covid do not belong under criminal deviance section. It is definitely not a crime to become infected with covid or have long covid. Perhaps that could be added it onto the career section of his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.27.137.204 ( talk) 17:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
I don't see that he was actually convicted of any crimes? Should the Criminal Deviance section be changed to "Deviant Behavior" perhaps? It's deviant to get arrested in the park with a rope tied to your genitals and neck with drugs in your possession, but if he wasn't convicted of a crime, is it really criminal? 2600:8800:2918:A600:2DF9:4A88:948D:A686 ( talk) 07:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi - please be aware there is a discussion at the noticeboard regarding some disputed content and join in the discussion at the BLP noticeboard - here - thanks - Youreallycan ( talk) 18:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
(BLP violation removed) Elizium23 ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Adding another comment by 108. from my Talk page:
Is Reuters considered a reliable source? http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/19/us-quest-idUSN1832900220080419 I note that in Don King's article, a reference is made to the fact that he killed two people. Why can this exist and not the informetion on Richard Quest? Again, thank you in advance.
-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Just to clarify, these incidents occurred in 2008. The Reuters article states that after Quest's arrest Quest appeared in court. The Reuters article is a mite confusing about what he was arrested for (in one place it says violating the park curfew and in another it says for possession of a controlled substance). According to Quest's attorney, the judge said he would dismiss the case if Quest attended counseling. The judge ordered 6 months of counseling (one presumes for drug issues, but the article doesn't say), and one also has to presume that the case was dismissed, although again the article doesn't explicitly say that.
WP:BLPCRIME states that we should not include material in a BLP article about a crime the person may have committed unless the person has been convicted. Here, there is no indication that Quest was convicted of anything. In addition, the details reported by The Post and Huffington are more properly confined to tabloids, and not to Wikipedia (Huffington happily alludes to this stuff as "lurid details"). He was not arrested for any sexual offense or charged with any sexual offense. Thus, to insert those details is WP:COATRACK and a further BLP violation.
Put more simply, this is crap about a minor contretemps that occurred four years ago that is more noteworthy for the "lurid details" than for anything else. It negatively impacts a BLP, it has little or no relevance to his Wikipedia article, and it cannot be included.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
BLP/N discussion results in the current edit. When a judge orders drug counseling - it meets the WP threshhold.
Collect (
talk) 12:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Most of the time, you have people adding defamatory info. This time, we have the opposite case: people being a bit overzealous with BLP. The issue at hand is Quest's arrest and what he had then in addition to drugs. Here are a few sources:
arrest records are public record in the USA and fully reportable by any publication, (BLP violation removed) 217.16.113.220 ( talk) 19:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
The job of editors is to determine what is, and what is not, of encyclopedic value to readers.
WP:BLP effectively tells us all to use the "blue pencil" rather than damage any person. Cheers.
Collect (
talk) 11:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Given the ongoing edit-warring to add material violating WP:BLP, including by editors who should know better, I have requested pending changes protection for this article at WP:RFPP. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 22:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
IMO is UNDUE and I suggest we determine if there is consensus for its inclusion in the BLP. Collect ( talk) 13:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
It appears to be unrelated to any criminal charges whatsoever, and is about as relevant as saying some was arrested "while reading the Daily News" or the like, or "wearing blue jeans." Material which is not of actual encyclopedic value should not be in a BLP. Collect ( talk) 13:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Seems like the covid and long covid do not belong under criminal deviance section. It is definitely not a crime to become infected with covid or have long covid. Perhaps that could be added it onto the career section of his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.27.137.204 ( talk) 17:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
I don't see that he was actually convicted of any crimes? Should the Criminal Deviance section be changed to "Deviant Behavior" perhaps? It's deviant to get arrested in the park with a rope tied to your genitals and neck with drugs in your possession, but if he wasn't convicted of a crime, is it really criminal? 2600:8800:2918:A600:2DF9:4A88:948D:A686 ( talk) 07:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)