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i seem to recall PETA or similar protestors outside of Herrnstein's bldg well before the Bell Curve dust-up.
is there any record of this anywhere? 216.50.220.28 ( talk) 00:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The matching law has been modified to deal with more cases where it is not a good fit.
130.17.62.242 21:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)florkle 4-24-2007
Two problems:
1. "While the very idea of innate racial differences in intellectual abilities cannot be dismissed out of hand..." At some level this is true, but it's worth noting that a.) the subspecies concept has been largely abandoned and b.) many anthropologists see "race" as a social construct, and find it more appropriate to talk about populations or clines.
2. "..some of the attempted refutations of The Bell Curve were politically motivated..." This sentence doesn't need to be there. One could just as justifiably say that the writing of The Bell Curve was itself politically motivated. This sentence also implies that a refutation cannot be both correct and politically motivated, which isn't true, or that some opponents of The Bell Curve were motivated *entirely* by politics, which can't be proven.
If the some version of the sentence must stay, it would be better to revise it to read, "...some of the attempted refutations of The Bell Curve were *arguably* politically motivated." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.65.134.51 ( talk • contribs)
1. this: R. J. Harrnstein (1972). "Nature as Nurture: Behaviorism and the Instinct Doctrine". seems to be missing from listed biography, though it is mentioned as "classic" in the article: Instinct ("History/ In biology" section).
2. previous comment saying "Perhaps in PC circles" seems to not realize, that Race is being abandoned/questioned as a useful term in regard of all biologiocal species (see Richard Dawkins: selfish gene) and not or not just in social/politically correct contex. Template:Unsigned --> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.36.185 ( talk) 01:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Birth here, death in Murray's obit in National Review, Vol. 46, 10-10-1994, pp 22. Jokestress 08:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
i seem to recall PETA or similar protestors outside of Herrnstein's bldg well before the Bell Curve dust-up.
is there any record of this anywhere? 216.50.220.28 ( talk) 00:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The Bell Curve was the product of sound thinking and exhaustive research. The fact that many "intellectuals" couldn't understand it or lacked the courage to accept it does nothing to diminish it's contribution. Furthermore, the majority of genuine, able scholars has long since acknowledged the accuracy of its conclusions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manxtime ( talk • contribs) 05:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 21:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
1. this: R. J. Harrnstein (1972). "Nature as Nurture: Behaviorism and the Instinct Doctrine". seems to be missing from biography, though it is mentioned as "classic" in the article: Instinct ("History/ In biology" section). 2. previous comment "Perhaps in PC circles" seems to not realize, that Race is being abandoned/questioned as a useful term in regard of all biologiocal species (see Richard Dawkins: selfish gene) and not or not just in social/politically correct contex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.36.185 ( talk) 01:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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Arbitration Ruling on Race and Intelligence The article Richard Herrnstein, along with other articles relating to the area of conflict (namely, the intersection of race/ethnicity and human abilities and behaviour, broadly construed), is currently subject to active arbitration remedies, described in a 2010 Arbitration Committee case where the articulated principles included:
If you are a new editor, or an editor unfamiliar with the situation, please follow the above guidelines. You may also wish to review the full arbitration case page. If you are unsure if your edit is appropriate, discuss it here on this talk page first. |
i seem to recall PETA or similar protestors outside of Herrnstein's bldg well before the Bell Curve dust-up.
is there any record of this anywhere? 216.50.220.28 ( talk) 00:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The matching law has been modified to deal with more cases where it is not a good fit.
130.17.62.242 21:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)florkle 4-24-2007
Two problems:
1. "While the very idea of innate racial differences in intellectual abilities cannot be dismissed out of hand..." At some level this is true, but it's worth noting that a.) the subspecies concept has been largely abandoned and b.) many anthropologists see "race" as a social construct, and find it more appropriate to talk about populations or clines.
2. "..some of the attempted refutations of The Bell Curve were politically motivated..." This sentence doesn't need to be there. One could just as justifiably say that the writing of The Bell Curve was itself politically motivated. This sentence also implies that a refutation cannot be both correct and politically motivated, which isn't true, or that some opponents of The Bell Curve were motivated *entirely* by politics, which can't be proven.
If the some version of the sentence must stay, it would be better to revise it to read, "...some of the attempted refutations of The Bell Curve were *arguably* politically motivated." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.65.134.51 ( talk • contribs)
1. this: R. J. Harrnstein (1972). "Nature as Nurture: Behaviorism and the Instinct Doctrine". seems to be missing from listed biography, though it is mentioned as "classic" in the article: Instinct ("History/ In biology" section).
2. previous comment saying "Perhaps in PC circles" seems to not realize, that Race is being abandoned/questioned as a useful term in regard of all biologiocal species (see Richard Dawkins: selfish gene) and not or not just in social/politically correct contex. Template:Unsigned --> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.36.185 ( talk) 01:34, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Birth here, death in Murray's obit in National Review, Vol. 46, 10-10-1994, pp 22. Jokestress 08:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
i seem to recall PETA or similar protestors outside of Herrnstein's bldg well before the Bell Curve dust-up.
is there any record of this anywhere? 216.50.220.28 ( talk) 00:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The Bell Curve was the product of sound thinking and exhaustive research. The fact that many "intellectuals" couldn't understand it or lacked the courage to accept it does nothing to diminish it's contribution. Furthermore, the majority of genuine, able scholars has long since acknowledged the accuracy of its conclusions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manxtime ( talk • contribs) 05:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 21:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
1. this: R. J. Harrnstein (1972). "Nature as Nurture: Behaviorism and the Instinct Doctrine". seems to be missing from biography, though it is mentioned as "classic" in the article: Instinct ("History/ In biology" section). 2. previous comment "Perhaps in PC circles" seems to not realize, that Race is being abandoned/questioned as a useful term in regard of all biologiocal species (see Richard Dawkins: selfish gene) and not or not just in social/politically correct contex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.36.185 ( talk) 01:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)