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in the 3rd paragraph of the article introduction it says 'medium-grain rice is stickier, and is used for sweet dishes, and in Italy for risotto; and sticky short-grain rice is used in Japanese sushi as it keeps its shape when cooked.'
It says that risotto is medium grain, and sushi is short grain.
Under Food > Eating it says 'Short-grain rices include Italian Arborio rice for risotto. Medium-grain rices include Japanese sushi rice, which is slightly sticky.'
It says that risotto is short grain, and that sushi is medium grain. 5.133.46.201 ( talk) 10:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, @ Chiswick Chap, I did go through the body of the article before I started making cuts to the lede.
“Domesticated”
It is absolutely redundant to mention that the grain three billion people eat is the domesticated variety. Because obviously something that widespread would become domesticated. Not to say that talking about rice’s domestication is redudant. Just that the lede is not the place for superfluous details like that the most widely consumed crops is in fact domesticated.
In a similar vein, I don’t agree with you reverting back
The seed of the grass species Oryza sativa (Asian rice)—or, much less commonly, O. glaberrima (African rice)—it was domesticated in China some 13,500 to 8,200 years ago; African rice was domesticated in Africa about 3,000 years ago
the “it” is talking about Asian rice since I put the part about African rice in its own subclause. I don’t think anyone would mix those two up from how I phrased it.
I took an issue with “the staple food”, because using the definite article gives the impression that people who eat rice only eat rice as their staple. It’s might be a personal thing, but I felt saying “a staple food” seemed clearer—since people eating rice, also probably eat a lot of other staples in their diets? Also has the benefit of, “Rice is a cereal and staple food…..”, sounding a lot sharper by virtue of being terser.
That's the problem with splitting off articles and leaving inadequate summaries behind. See History of rice cultivation. OBSIDIAN† SOUL 15:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Any reason on why you're keeping it vague by just saying it was "domesticated in China", without saying who did the domestication? Neolithic China isn't the same thing as modern China. The fact that rice centers in the Neolithic are associated with these cultures are not in question. OBSIDIAN† SOUL 16:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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in the 3rd paragraph of the article introduction it says 'medium-grain rice is stickier, and is used for sweet dishes, and in Italy for risotto; and sticky short-grain rice is used in Japanese sushi as it keeps its shape when cooked.'
It says that risotto is medium grain, and sushi is short grain.
Under Food > Eating it says 'Short-grain rices include Italian Arborio rice for risotto. Medium-grain rices include Japanese sushi rice, which is slightly sticky.'
It says that risotto is short grain, and that sushi is medium grain. 5.133.46.201 ( talk) 10:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, @ Chiswick Chap, I did go through the body of the article before I started making cuts to the lede.
“Domesticated”
It is absolutely redundant to mention that the grain three billion people eat is the domesticated variety. Because obviously something that widespread would become domesticated. Not to say that talking about rice’s domestication is redudant. Just that the lede is not the place for superfluous details like that the most widely consumed crops is in fact domesticated.
In a similar vein, I don’t agree with you reverting back
The seed of the grass species Oryza sativa (Asian rice)—or, much less commonly, O. glaberrima (African rice)—it was domesticated in China some 13,500 to 8,200 years ago; African rice was domesticated in Africa about 3,000 years ago
the “it” is talking about Asian rice since I put the part about African rice in its own subclause. I don’t think anyone would mix those two up from how I phrased it.
I took an issue with “the staple food”, because using the definite article gives the impression that people who eat rice only eat rice as their staple. It’s might be a personal thing, but I felt saying “a staple food” seemed clearer—since people eating rice, also probably eat a lot of other staples in their diets? Also has the benefit of, “Rice is a cereal and staple food…..”, sounding a lot sharper by virtue of being terser.
That's the problem with splitting off articles and leaving inadequate summaries behind. See History of rice cultivation. OBSIDIAN† SOUL 15:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Any reason on why you're keeping it vague by just saying it was "domesticated in China", without saying who did the domestication? Neolithic China isn't the same thing as modern China. The fact that rice centers in the Neolithic are associated with these cultures are not in question. OBSIDIAN† SOUL 16:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)