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George Lucas says PALPATINE DIED. He is apparently upset Disney brought the Character back in this way: https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/george-lucas-reportedly-unhappy-palpatines-return-star-wars-rise-skywalker/
Straight from Ian McDiarmid's mouth: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1114632/Star-Wars-9-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ian-McDiarmid-Palpatine-death-George-Lucas-Phantom-Menace
The subsequent non-lucas sequel should be ignored, at least until the movie comes out and fully clarifies it's "Return of Palpatine" plot points, since it's likely he will remain having died in Jedi(it will likely be some kind of ressurection or a clone or a hologram). Colliric ( talk) 11:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
What happens on screen is that HE DIES. He gets thrown into the shaft and we see bolts of electricity shoot back up the shaft and then the Death Star gets blown to smitherines with his body still somewhere inside it. Luke barely has enough time to escape himself. We can say he DIES. Colliric ( talk) 16:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Canterbury Tail: and @ UpdateNerd:. In TROS, Palpatine says he’s “died before,” a clear reference to his plunge in Episode VI". However, Episode 6 never shows the emperor physically dying. Given his massive amount of power and force, Palpatine could have faked his death in order to start building The Final Order Fleet. It is established in the movie that Palpatine is only living through the use of machines that keep him "alive". He has no eyes and is very disfigured. In order for Palpatine to actually "live", he needed the life of Rey and Ren sucked out of them and into him. Cloning doesn't seem to be the reason.
It's not a shocker that Palpatine could have survived Episode 6 and went into hiding. It's also not a shocker that Palpatine could have the power of resurrection, just like REN DID TO REY. Palpatine was barely functioning and was on life support, his whole plan with Rey and Ren was to have them be killed for him to be fully alive again.
AmericanAir88( talk) 17:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello,
A few days ago, I posted a source that supported the idea that Han Solo was not killed off because of merchandise sales, and one source that supported the idea that it was also Howard Kazanjian who told George Lucas about changing the name. Instead of suggesting fixing my wording or phrasing my work was entirely deleted, even though I used valid and credible sources in my edits. So, if you guys could tell me what to do in order to get my edits back on this page, that would be greatly appreciated. (I realize my Luke and Leia edit involving J.W Rinzler was out of place, and I admit that it wasn't needed)
Thank you. Mobfighter63 ( talk) 01:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
It is written, Luke was one of the last jedi knights. But he is not a full Jedi yet, at least Yoda says so, only by the end. KhlavKhalash ( talk) 16:12, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
I tried adding with a source that clarifies the critical response for the Prequels was more mixed amongst fans as it tended to be the older generation of fans and critics that were more polarized but the younger generation even as kids tended to be more positive of them but it got edited out. I think it's necessary to tell this side of the story as it's part of history. As while "polarized" tells a part of the story it seems more leaning to what the older generation of fans thought. Joe12Hawk ( talk) 17:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
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George Lucas says PALPATINE DIED. He is apparently upset Disney brought the Character back in this way: https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/george-lucas-reportedly-unhappy-palpatines-return-star-wars-rise-skywalker/
Straight from Ian McDiarmid's mouth: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1114632/Star-Wars-9-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ian-McDiarmid-Palpatine-death-George-Lucas-Phantom-Menace
The subsequent non-lucas sequel should be ignored, at least until the movie comes out and fully clarifies it's "Return of Palpatine" plot points, since it's likely he will remain having died in Jedi(it will likely be some kind of ressurection or a clone or a hologram). Colliric ( talk) 11:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
What happens on screen is that HE DIES. He gets thrown into the shaft and we see bolts of electricity shoot back up the shaft and then the Death Star gets blown to smitherines with his body still somewhere inside it. Luke barely has enough time to escape himself. We can say he DIES. Colliric ( talk) 16:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Canterbury Tail: and @ UpdateNerd:. In TROS, Palpatine says he’s “died before,” a clear reference to his plunge in Episode VI". However, Episode 6 never shows the emperor physically dying. Given his massive amount of power and force, Palpatine could have faked his death in order to start building The Final Order Fleet. It is established in the movie that Palpatine is only living through the use of machines that keep him "alive". He has no eyes and is very disfigured. In order for Palpatine to actually "live", he needed the life of Rey and Ren sucked out of them and into him. Cloning doesn't seem to be the reason.
It's not a shocker that Palpatine could have survived Episode 6 and went into hiding. It's also not a shocker that Palpatine could have the power of resurrection, just like REN DID TO REY. Palpatine was barely functioning and was on life support, his whole plan with Rey and Ren was to have them be killed for him to be fully alive again.
AmericanAir88( talk) 17:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello,
A few days ago, I posted a source that supported the idea that Han Solo was not killed off because of merchandise sales, and one source that supported the idea that it was also Howard Kazanjian who told George Lucas about changing the name. Instead of suggesting fixing my wording or phrasing my work was entirely deleted, even though I used valid and credible sources in my edits. So, if you guys could tell me what to do in order to get my edits back on this page, that would be greatly appreciated. (I realize my Luke and Leia edit involving J.W Rinzler was out of place, and I admit that it wasn't needed)
Thank you. Mobfighter63 ( talk) 01:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
It is written, Luke was one of the last jedi knights. But he is not a full Jedi yet, at least Yoda says so, only by the end. KhlavKhalash ( talk) 16:12, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
I tried adding with a source that clarifies the critical response for the Prequels was more mixed amongst fans as it tended to be the older generation of fans and critics that were more polarized but the younger generation even as kids tended to be more positive of them but it got edited out. I think it's necessary to tell this side of the story as it's part of history. As while "polarized" tells a part of the story it seems more leaning to what the older generation of fans thought. Joe12Hawk ( talk) 17:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)