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The article states "design feature intended to make Lovett riot-proof in reaction to the student riots of the late 1960s, most notably the Abbie Hoffman riot of April 1970." However, footnote 66 links to Fondren Library's Lovett College records, stating the Lovett building opened in 1968, two years before the Abbie Hoffman incident. In addition, there are no primary sources cited for the supposed "riot-proof" design of Lovett, and similar myths surround other Brutalist buildings of the era: https://www.crikey.com.au/2013/10/28/busting-brutalist-campus-architecture-myths/ Elevenrivers ( talk) 16:19, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
"What makes Baker the best college on campus are our many long-standing traditions." This is definitely not neutral.
Appears to have been written by a current student who has only a superficial knowledge of the college. Should probably leave the writing of this article to alumni who have a greater appreciation for the college, and would paint a more accurate picture that does Baker justice. There's more than Baker 13 and Upper Fourth - this coming from someone who ran 13 alone and lived in Fourth when it supposedly attained its "legend" status, but also is much more aware of all that is Baker.
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Dubious tag re: coed bathrooms... The article text appears to come verbatim from http://www.brown.rice.edu/about/history.php, but I dispute the accuracy of this particular point based on my personal experience as a resident of Brown College from 1989-1993.
During my time at Brown, bathrooms were single-sex by default, with the gender assignment typically alternating by floor and changing every semester (although 8th floor, and perhaps others just after Brown went coed, had only women residents and did not change its bathroom's gender assignment). HOWEVER, as this system always required some residents to go to a different floor to use the bathroom, a floor COULD elect to have its bathroom be coed only by unanimous vote of all residents on the floor. Coed bathrooms certainly existed (I used them myself), but they were not universal as stated by the article.
I have not edited the article aside from adding the "dubious" tag as this is my first foray into editing. Perhaps a discussion to the depth of the paragraph above exceeds the scope of the article, but I would request at least that the universality of the statement be removed, e.g., change "However, the community bathrooms on all floors remained coed..." to "However, each floor had only one community bathroom, which would require some residents to go to a different floor to use the bathroom. A floor's residents could elect to have their bathroom designated as coed by a unanimous vote until 1994, when the bathrooms were renovated to provide separate facilities for men and women on each floor." Garrick42 ( talk) 06:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Having read up on Wikipedia's standards, I see I have a tough row to hoe as I'm relying on personal experience alone. I suppose I'd have to get the published source document ( http://www.brown.rice.edu/about/history.php) corrected first. I'll send a note to the Webmaster of that page and probably forget about it! Garrick42 ( talk) 15:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Additional information: I was a Brown student from 1992-1996, and for the 1992-1994 years most bathrooms in Brown were indeed co-ed. It is correct, as the previous commenter mentions, that this was determined by a floor-by-floor anonymous vote during the first hall meeting of the year. All votes on a floor had to be unanimous to make the bathroom co-ed. I seem to remember that during the school year beginning in fall 1992 floors 2 and 3 retained single-sex bathrooms, but I could be remembering this incorrectly. Floor 4 was definitely co-ed from 1992 until the remodeling in 1994. This is personal anecdata, so not verifiable by Wikipedia standards, but placed here for those interested in following up. 157.182.147.118 ( talk) 19:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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I'm pulling off the comment about "Please don't delete this..." It's not appropriate for Wikipedia, and as a Hanszen alum, I think it looks pretty immature. I think the whole sheriff comment is pretty immature, but maybe you guys actually do stuff like that. Jcloudm 14 Aug 2006
We could probably go a little bit more in-depth on the government, as the current version makes no mention whatsoever of the committees. HFH '04 -- 69.7.175.177 13:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
As a Hanszen alum, I respect your opinion regarding the sheriff line.
However, I think you're a piece of shit for censoring what is the only humorous line in an otherwise information-only article, especially on the last bastion of user-created free speech (the internet).
Sounds cool to me.
(I have some extra plane tickets to 1984 East Berlin if you want them ... )
24.167.39.137 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC) Rice's unique qualities revolve around being more easy-going than other ivy league institutions - don't ruin it.
That bit about the Sherriff needs to stay out of this article. Wikipedia is not the place for jokes or graffiti. If you want to put that up on hanszenet or your own web site, that's you're business. However, Wikipedia already has enough trouble being taken seriously, without people undermining it by putting in intentionally false statements. Additionally, as a Hanszen alum, I am disappointed in the lack of creativity in your humor. It's just simply not that funny. You should be able to make a joke that's more intelligent than that, while still upholding the level of accuracy that Wikipedia is striving for. I mean, come on, isn't there something true AND funny that you can put into a new 'life at hanszen' section? Ekao1111 15:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Note that jokes are specifically included in the Wikipedia definition of vandalism: WP:VANDAL It doesn't matter whether you think it's funny or not. Ekao1111 16:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
A joke is a joke, even if it has basis in real life. If you want to include it, put it in a new college humor section, and put it in quotes. There's no problem with documenting jokes, provided they are identified as such. Also, let's try to keep this discussion mature. Modifying another person's comments is again just showing that you don't understand the concept here. Finally, if you want to get some respect here, register and sign in when you make edits. If it's so important to you to "prevail", then you should be able to step up to the plate and take credit for it by name. Ekao1111 18:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
On a different note, I'll be removing the Hanszen Halo League. A list that is just tacked on to the end of the article makes no sense. It should include some sort of discussion and some references. Ekao1111 18:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the Sheriff comments: The problem with the editors of the wikipedia (and some Hanszen alumni apparently) is that they fail to see the significance of things like the Hanszen Sheriff. Events like electing/appointing a Sheriff (albeit somewhat tongue and cheek) are what define the residential colleges. These tid bits are important to the creating an accurate representation of the Residential colleges. 99.7.82.53 ( talk) 00:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
The Hanszen's Legacy section needs sourcing for the histories of the various establishments mentioned there. Please read through WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:NPOV for information on Wikipedia content, and read WP:CITE for information on how to cite the references. Thanks! Dreadstar † 21:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey J8tennet, I really like the comments, it's a really interesting history that, as a Hanszen Alum ('08) I'd never heard. Probably though, you should phrase them as a quote and that would make you the source for teh facts in the article (just quote yourself like it was a newspaper). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Braddodson ( talk • contribs) 04:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a list of the previous Jones College Masters including: who they were, if they had an administrative or academic position, their term(s) as Master?
-9/25/08: Found a pamphlet from the term of the Barreras' mastership listing all previous Jones Masters, RAs, Presidents, and College Coordinators. Included info to be added.
3/1/2006: Although the anti-college cheers against, Brown, Sid, Baker, Hanszen and Lovett are legitimate Jones cheers, they are not bona fide beer bike cheers in that they do not have hand signals, so I deleted them.
If someone wants to put them back in, they should be appropriately categorized and contextualized with archiac (or defunct) cheers like "Rock on... Jones" and "Jones Farmer Jones"
For consitency, however, I did add the "Jaberwocky" cheer.
4/1/2006: Jones Men have won the mens race more times than any other college since there have been University-sanctioned Jones men. There should be some way to represent this that is sufficiently NPOV for Wikipedia.
5/26/2006: Jonesians knew Kalyan as Sammy.
Although Bakerfeast is in Baker, this is one of the oldest Rice parties, for decades was a major campus event, and is strictly a Jones-Baker deal.
Jones has also had several major parties that were phased out after the drinking age was changed.
Jones used to have a huge outdoor Tiki-torch party called "Where the Wild Things Are" until they built Martel on the site of the party.
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2/18/04 Please edit, improve, add detail if you've got it.
-Ajeannie SRC '96
"only 7 floors high (in accordance with the Rice charter)"
Is this really true? Isn't Brown College eight stories?
The 7 floors thing is a myth, and yes, Brown is eight stories high.
...not being one for formal editing of Wikipedia, here are some notes:
Motto: Mors de super (death from above) see "Apocalypse Now" Color: Black Song: "Back in Black" AC/DC
...would like a note on the lottery system for rooms ...is there a suicide count for Sid? ...due to the nature of the building's structure, members must all pass through the lobby, making for a more cohesive and unified group dynamic. In the early 90's, the TV area provided a nexus for group bonding in "21 Jump Street" and "Simpsons" viewings (William Martin's son was a writer for the show at this time)
Someone deleted the list of previous Masters and Presidents which several contributors had compiled over time. One would think that this is exactly the kind of information that belongs in an encyclopedia article. Why on earth would someone delete such information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgewebb ( talk • contribs) 02:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
It's Wiess, not Weiss.
Wrong, it's Weiss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.218.79.137 ( talk) 03:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.155.226.3 ( talk) 20:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
There should be more of a distinction made between College Night (a night of celebration at the college) and Pub Night (each college's night at Willy's Pub) in the "College Night" section. I'm not a Wiessman, so I can't say whether this section refers to College Night or Pub Night. Maybe someone could clarify. -- Ua747sp 07:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
This article looks more like an ad or log for all the various things that students do at this residential college. The information about the student traditions is unencyclopedic in its current form, and needs to be fixed or removed. -- Core des at talk! 06:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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The user Madcoverboy just changed the article "Baker College (Rice University)" to redirect to here. There was a perfectly good article there before. Why was this done? SkyDot ( talk) 09:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm with Madcoverboy on this. Just because the residential colleges have their own sets of rules and traditions and whatever does not make them notable. On Wikipedia, notability is justified by reliable sources and verifiability. Right now, there are only two sources for a 55k page, which is unacceptable. This article should be the focal point for all the residential colleges, but it needs a lot of sourcing. And pages for each of the colleges should redirect here.— HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Madcoverboy's good faith was not impugned; his objectivity was. The tone of his comments (especially his ascription of praiseworthy boldness to himself, and of sophomoricness and similar traits to others) supports that concern. Purity of motive is not the same as objectivity of judgment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgewebb ( talk • contribs) 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
“I have no axe to grind save for equitably enforcing Wikipedia policy” Madcoverboy,are you familiar with the Yuuzhan Vong? Neither was I until I started searching Star Wars pages on Wikipedia to prove this point. The Yuuzhan Vong are a fictional race from the fictional Star Wars Expanded Universe. Their Wikipedia article is full of paragraphs like this:
If you could take a break from enforcing Wikipedia policy on the pages for Rice residential colleges, and in the meantime start to do so for the Yuuzhan Vong, the authors of the Rice residential college pages would have more time to clean up their pages. The page for the Yuuzhan Vong doesn’t cite any references or sources, it needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications, its quality is compromised by peacock terms, its neutrality is disputable, it contains unverifiable claims, its notability is questionable, and it may contain material not appropriate for an encyclopedia. If the latter two problems, notability and appropriateness, apply to Rice’s residential colleges, then there is certainly no urgency in merging them or deleting them.
15Step ( talk) 01:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Has a consensus actually been reached to merit this merging? This article already seems far too long. A great deal of the data in the separate articles has been reviewed and sourced. AniRaptor2001 00:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This page at 56 kilobytes in length is getting close to the suggested size for splitting per the rule of thumb. Maybe it is time to split out again into separate articles and turn this page into a list or delete it. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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Δ is quite right. The idea that an article is really just a collection of little articles has been debated repeatedly, and always fails. It doesn't fly. If an article has sufficient sourced material to stand on its own, then an identifying logo is appropriate. If it doesn't, such that it gets merged like this, there's precious little argument that the overt overuse of non-free images is warranted. The use of non-free images on this article places it in the top 0.002% of all articles on Wikipedia in terms of non-free media use. That's extreme. Extreme use requires extreme justification. Our mission is to develop a free license encyclopedia. Adding non-free content detracts from that, and needs to be strongly justified. WP:NFCC #3 implores use to keep use to a minimum. Having 12 non-free images doesn't adhere to that in any shape or form. The arguments used here could be just as well used for discography articles where there are no (or few) individual articles for albums by a particular artist. It doesn't fly there, it doesn't fly here. What would be considerably more useful and in line with our free content mission is photographing each of these residential colleges, complete with (if visible) de minimis representations of the crests on the building or on installed signage. There are photos here for some of the colleges, but not all. The non-free images have to go. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 14:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Citation needed regarding Albert Patrick college? This started in spring of 1989 by residents of the 80's and 90's. I was in room 271 that year; can give names of founding members if needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cable68 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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I think it would be valuable to include Sid's role as the quarantine house for students during pandemic during the fall semester, as well as the fact that its students are divided into McMurtry, Wiess, Duncan, and Brown. Construction for New Sid will be finished by the end of the year and its students will move in in the spring semester. Also, Radio Free Sid is from 4 - 7, not 3 - 6. - Angelalin79 ( talk) 01:28, 4 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelalin79 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
I believe the author did a good job in explaining the residential colleges and their individual history, characteristics, and traditions to people who don't quite know Rice University. It first starts with an overview on the residential college system in Rice Univerisity, and then it later introduces each college in a similar logic. There are a number of pictures that are well arranged to bring a better vision to the audience. I would have to point out that several pieces of information are no longer up-to-date. Considering such introductory passage are usually long and includes a lot of history, it is a good idea to introduce each college with a single, brief but conclusive sentence that is made the focus for each college. HRSun04 ( talk) 22:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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The article states "design feature intended to make Lovett riot-proof in reaction to the student riots of the late 1960s, most notably the Abbie Hoffman riot of April 1970." However, footnote 66 links to Fondren Library's Lovett College records, stating the Lovett building opened in 1968, two years before the Abbie Hoffman incident. In addition, there are no primary sources cited for the supposed "riot-proof" design of Lovett, and similar myths surround other Brutalist buildings of the era: https://www.crikey.com.au/2013/10/28/busting-brutalist-campus-architecture-myths/ Elevenrivers ( talk) 16:19, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
"What makes Baker the best college on campus are our many long-standing traditions." This is definitely not neutral.
Appears to have been written by a current student who has only a superficial knowledge of the college. Should probably leave the writing of this article to alumni who have a greater appreciation for the college, and would paint a more accurate picture that does Baker justice. There's more than Baker 13 and Upper Fourth - this coming from someone who ran 13 alone and lived in Fourth when it supposedly attained its "legend" status, but also is much more aware of all that is Baker.
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Dubious tag re: coed bathrooms... The article text appears to come verbatim from http://www.brown.rice.edu/about/history.php, but I dispute the accuracy of this particular point based on my personal experience as a resident of Brown College from 1989-1993.
During my time at Brown, bathrooms were single-sex by default, with the gender assignment typically alternating by floor and changing every semester (although 8th floor, and perhaps others just after Brown went coed, had only women residents and did not change its bathroom's gender assignment). HOWEVER, as this system always required some residents to go to a different floor to use the bathroom, a floor COULD elect to have its bathroom be coed only by unanimous vote of all residents on the floor. Coed bathrooms certainly existed (I used them myself), but they were not universal as stated by the article.
I have not edited the article aside from adding the "dubious" tag as this is my first foray into editing. Perhaps a discussion to the depth of the paragraph above exceeds the scope of the article, but I would request at least that the universality of the statement be removed, e.g., change "However, the community bathrooms on all floors remained coed..." to "However, each floor had only one community bathroom, which would require some residents to go to a different floor to use the bathroom. A floor's residents could elect to have their bathroom designated as coed by a unanimous vote until 1994, when the bathrooms were renovated to provide separate facilities for men and women on each floor." Garrick42 ( talk) 06:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Having read up on Wikipedia's standards, I see I have a tough row to hoe as I'm relying on personal experience alone. I suppose I'd have to get the published source document ( http://www.brown.rice.edu/about/history.php) corrected first. I'll send a note to the Webmaster of that page and probably forget about it! Garrick42 ( talk) 15:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Additional information: I was a Brown student from 1992-1996, and for the 1992-1994 years most bathrooms in Brown were indeed co-ed. It is correct, as the previous commenter mentions, that this was determined by a floor-by-floor anonymous vote during the first hall meeting of the year. All votes on a floor had to be unanimous to make the bathroom co-ed. I seem to remember that during the school year beginning in fall 1992 floors 2 and 3 retained single-sex bathrooms, but I could be remembering this incorrectly. Floor 4 was definitely co-ed from 1992 until the remodeling in 1994. This is personal anecdata, so not verifiable by Wikipedia standards, but placed here for those interested in following up. 157.182.147.118 ( talk) 19:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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I'm pulling off the comment about "Please don't delete this..." It's not appropriate for Wikipedia, and as a Hanszen alum, I think it looks pretty immature. I think the whole sheriff comment is pretty immature, but maybe you guys actually do stuff like that. Jcloudm 14 Aug 2006
We could probably go a little bit more in-depth on the government, as the current version makes no mention whatsoever of the committees. HFH '04 -- 69.7.175.177 13:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
As a Hanszen alum, I respect your opinion regarding the sheriff line.
However, I think you're a piece of shit for censoring what is the only humorous line in an otherwise information-only article, especially on the last bastion of user-created free speech (the internet).
Sounds cool to me.
(I have some extra plane tickets to 1984 East Berlin if you want them ... )
24.167.39.137 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC) Rice's unique qualities revolve around being more easy-going than other ivy league institutions - don't ruin it.
That bit about the Sherriff needs to stay out of this article. Wikipedia is not the place for jokes or graffiti. If you want to put that up on hanszenet or your own web site, that's you're business. However, Wikipedia already has enough trouble being taken seriously, without people undermining it by putting in intentionally false statements. Additionally, as a Hanszen alum, I am disappointed in the lack of creativity in your humor. It's just simply not that funny. You should be able to make a joke that's more intelligent than that, while still upholding the level of accuracy that Wikipedia is striving for. I mean, come on, isn't there something true AND funny that you can put into a new 'life at hanszen' section? Ekao1111 15:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Note that jokes are specifically included in the Wikipedia definition of vandalism: WP:VANDAL It doesn't matter whether you think it's funny or not. Ekao1111 16:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
A joke is a joke, even if it has basis in real life. If you want to include it, put it in a new college humor section, and put it in quotes. There's no problem with documenting jokes, provided they are identified as such. Also, let's try to keep this discussion mature. Modifying another person's comments is again just showing that you don't understand the concept here. Finally, if you want to get some respect here, register and sign in when you make edits. If it's so important to you to "prevail", then you should be able to step up to the plate and take credit for it by name. Ekao1111 18:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
On a different note, I'll be removing the Hanszen Halo League. A list that is just tacked on to the end of the article makes no sense. It should include some sort of discussion and some references. Ekao1111 18:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the Sheriff comments: The problem with the editors of the wikipedia (and some Hanszen alumni apparently) is that they fail to see the significance of things like the Hanszen Sheriff. Events like electing/appointing a Sheriff (albeit somewhat tongue and cheek) are what define the residential colleges. These tid bits are important to the creating an accurate representation of the Residential colleges. 99.7.82.53 ( talk) 00:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
The Hanszen's Legacy section needs sourcing for the histories of the various establishments mentioned there. Please read through WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:NPOV for information on Wikipedia content, and read WP:CITE for information on how to cite the references. Thanks! Dreadstar † 21:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey J8tennet, I really like the comments, it's a really interesting history that, as a Hanszen Alum ('08) I'd never heard. Probably though, you should phrase them as a quote and that would make you the source for teh facts in the article (just quote yourself like it was a newspaper). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Braddodson ( talk • contribs) 04:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a list of the previous Jones College Masters including: who they were, if they had an administrative or academic position, their term(s) as Master?
-9/25/08: Found a pamphlet from the term of the Barreras' mastership listing all previous Jones Masters, RAs, Presidents, and College Coordinators. Included info to be added.
3/1/2006: Although the anti-college cheers against, Brown, Sid, Baker, Hanszen and Lovett are legitimate Jones cheers, they are not bona fide beer bike cheers in that they do not have hand signals, so I deleted them.
If someone wants to put them back in, they should be appropriately categorized and contextualized with archiac (or defunct) cheers like "Rock on... Jones" and "Jones Farmer Jones"
For consitency, however, I did add the "Jaberwocky" cheer.
4/1/2006: Jones Men have won the mens race more times than any other college since there have been University-sanctioned Jones men. There should be some way to represent this that is sufficiently NPOV for Wikipedia.
5/26/2006: Jonesians knew Kalyan as Sammy.
Although Bakerfeast is in Baker, this is one of the oldest Rice parties, for decades was a major campus event, and is strictly a Jones-Baker deal.
Jones has also had several major parties that were phased out after the drinking age was changed.
Jones used to have a huge outdoor Tiki-torch party called "Where the Wild Things Are" until they built Martel on the site of the party.
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2/18/04 Please edit, improve, add detail if you've got it.
-Ajeannie SRC '96
"only 7 floors high (in accordance with the Rice charter)"
Is this really true? Isn't Brown College eight stories?
The 7 floors thing is a myth, and yes, Brown is eight stories high.
...not being one for formal editing of Wikipedia, here are some notes:
Motto: Mors de super (death from above) see "Apocalypse Now" Color: Black Song: "Back in Black" AC/DC
...would like a note on the lottery system for rooms ...is there a suicide count for Sid? ...due to the nature of the building's structure, members must all pass through the lobby, making for a more cohesive and unified group dynamic. In the early 90's, the TV area provided a nexus for group bonding in "21 Jump Street" and "Simpsons" viewings (William Martin's son was a writer for the show at this time)
Someone deleted the list of previous Masters and Presidents which several contributors had compiled over time. One would think that this is exactly the kind of information that belongs in an encyclopedia article. Why on earth would someone delete such information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgewebb ( talk • contribs) 02:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
It's Wiess, not Weiss.
Wrong, it's Weiss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.218.79.137 ( talk) 03:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.155.226.3 ( talk) 20:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
There should be more of a distinction made between College Night (a night of celebration at the college) and Pub Night (each college's night at Willy's Pub) in the "College Night" section. I'm not a Wiessman, so I can't say whether this section refers to College Night or Pub Night. Maybe someone could clarify. -- Ua747sp 07:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
This article looks more like an ad or log for all the various things that students do at this residential college. The information about the student traditions is unencyclopedic in its current form, and needs to be fixed or removed. -- Core des at talk! 06:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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The user Madcoverboy just changed the article "Baker College (Rice University)" to redirect to here. There was a perfectly good article there before. Why was this done? SkyDot ( talk) 09:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm with Madcoverboy on this. Just because the residential colleges have their own sets of rules and traditions and whatever does not make them notable. On Wikipedia, notability is justified by reliable sources and verifiability. Right now, there are only two sources for a 55k page, which is unacceptable. This article should be the focal point for all the residential colleges, but it needs a lot of sourcing. And pages for each of the colleges should redirect here.— HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Madcoverboy's good faith was not impugned; his objectivity was. The tone of his comments (especially his ascription of praiseworthy boldness to himself, and of sophomoricness and similar traits to others) supports that concern. Purity of motive is not the same as objectivity of judgment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgewebb ( talk • contribs) 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
“I have no axe to grind save for equitably enforcing Wikipedia policy” Madcoverboy,are you familiar with the Yuuzhan Vong? Neither was I until I started searching Star Wars pages on Wikipedia to prove this point. The Yuuzhan Vong are a fictional race from the fictional Star Wars Expanded Universe. Their Wikipedia article is full of paragraphs like this:
If you could take a break from enforcing Wikipedia policy on the pages for Rice residential colleges, and in the meantime start to do so for the Yuuzhan Vong, the authors of the Rice residential college pages would have more time to clean up their pages. The page for the Yuuzhan Vong doesn’t cite any references or sources, it needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications, its quality is compromised by peacock terms, its neutrality is disputable, it contains unverifiable claims, its notability is questionable, and it may contain material not appropriate for an encyclopedia. If the latter two problems, notability and appropriateness, apply to Rice’s residential colleges, then there is certainly no urgency in merging them or deleting them.
15Step ( talk) 01:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Has a consensus actually been reached to merit this merging? This article already seems far too long. A great deal of the data in the separate articles has been reviewed and sourced. AniRaptor2001 00:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This page at 56 kilobytes in length is getting close to the suggested size for splitting per the rule of thumb. Maybe it is time to split out again into separate articles and turn this page into a list or delete it. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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Δ is quite right. The idea that an article is really just a collection of little articles has been debated repeatedly, and always fails. It doesn't fly. If an article has sufficient sourced material to stand on its own, then an identifying logo is appropriate. If it doesn't, such that it gets merged like this, there's precious little argument that the overt overuse of non-free images is warranted. The use of non-free images on this article places it in the top 0.002% of all articles on Wikipedia in terms of non-free media use. That's extreme. Extreme use requires extreme justification. Our mission is to develop a free license encyclopedia. Adding non-free content detracts from that, and needs to be strongly justified. WP:NFCC #3 implores use to keep use to a minimum. Having 12 non-free images doesn't adhere to that in any shape or form. The arguments used here could be just as well used for discography articles where there are no (or few) individual articles for albums by a particular artist. It doesn't fly there, it doesn't fly here. What would be considerably more useful and in line with our free content mission is photographing each of these residential colleges, complete with (if visible) de minimis representations of the crests on the building or on installed signage. There are photos here for some of the colleges, but not all. The non-free images have to go. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 14:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Citation needed regarding Albert Patrick college? This started in spring of 1989 by residents of the 80's and 90's. I was in room 271 that year; can give names of founding members if needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cable68 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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I think it would be valuable to include Sid's role as the quarantine house for students during pandemic during the fall semester, as well as the fact that its students are divided into McMurtry, Wiess, Duncan, and Brown. Construction for New Sid will be finished by the end of the year and its students will move in in the spring semester. Also, Radio Free Sid is from 4 - 7, not 3 - 6. - Angelalin79 ( talk) 01:28, 4 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelalin79 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
I believe the author did a good job in explaining the residential colleges and their individual history, characteristics, and traditions to people who don't quite know Rice University. It first starts with an overview on the residential college system in Rice Univerisity, and then it later introduces each college in a similar logic. There are a number of pictures that are well arranged to bring a better vision to the audience. I would have to point out that several pieces of information are no longer up-to-date. Considering such introductory passage are usually long and includes a lot of history, it is a good idea to introduce each college with a single, brief but conclusive sentence that is made the focus for each college. HRSun04 ( talk) 22:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)