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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
BorgQueen (
talk) 13:17, 5 February 2023 (UTC)reply
... that the religious significance of rice in India involves the
Pongal held during a morning ceremony by boiling rice with milk and jaggery in clay mudpots? Source: citation 1 The Ultimate Guide to Cooking Rice the Indian way by Kumar Prassanjeet
@
Nvvchar and
BorgQueen: Lovely article, but my concern is that the wording of the hook is not quite right? The way it is worded now, it could be read to mean "everyone in India celebrates Pongal".
Cielquiparle (
talk) 06:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Nvvchar and
BorgQueen: I'm afraid this article has major problems with close paraphrasing; see the
talk page. It will need to be almost entirely rewritten before it can be eligible for DYK. Also, one of the principle sources (Kumar 2015) is self-published and unreliable.
Sojourner in the earth (
talk) 21:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Charran (2011) is also a self-published source —
DaxServer (
t ·
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c) 22:13, 31 January 2023 (UTC)reply
the first source's author is Prashant Kumar and his book has been published by "StreetLib" a well known publishing firm as can be verified in websearch. By mistake I had mentioned the source as unknown. This book source has been extensively used in this article. As regards close paraphrasing, I will make suitable changes. I would like the reviewers to allow a relook.Nvvchar. 14:34, 1 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I have supplemented Charran (2011)'s reference with two more book references with some additional text. Nvvchar. 06:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I withdraw this nomination.Nvvchar. 13:14, 5 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Close paraphrasing
This article contains extensive
close paraphrasing of its cited sources. I've given a few examples below, but the problem is present throughout the whole article.
Examples of close paraphrasing
Source: Jayashankar et al. (2002) state that according to Dr. Richharia, the well-known rice scientist in India, 40,000 varieties of rice had existed in India during the Vedic period. He has estimated that even today 200,000 varieties of rice exist in India.
Article: According to Richaria, a well known rice scientist, in India, 400,000 varieties of rice existed during the Vedic period, and even at present the number is reported to be 200,000.
Source: Rice is vital in the ceremony of Annaprashana, a ritualised first feeding, which is conducted in the baby's sixth or seventh month of life. Mashed boiled rice or a sweet rice pudding called kheer is generally fed to the child accompanied with the chanting of sacred mantras.
Article: It is also vital in the Annaprashana, a ritualistic first feeding of a child, which is conducted in the child's sixth or seventh month of life. Mashed cooked rice or a sweet rice pudding called kheer is generally fed by the parents to their child with the priest chanting mantras.
Source: Rice cultivation rites form an important part in the life of the farmer in Manipur. Agricultural activity is initiated with the rite of Loutaba, when rice, flowers, eight Burma agrimony (Eupatorium birmanicum) buds, sweets, and a handful of rice are offered to the gods with a prayer for protection from all dangers. The farmer prays for a doubling of the previous year's yield.
Article: In Manipur, in Northeast India, rice cultivation rites form an important part in the life of the farmer. Loutaba is a rite performed for rice before the start of agricultural operations in their fields, in which fistful of rice with flowers, eight Burma agrimony (Eupatorium birmanicum) buds, and sweets are made to gods with the prayer that the yield would be double of the previous year's yield.
Source: In Pongal, the day's celebrations include an early morning ceremony of boiling rice with milk and sugar in clay pots, which is allowed to boil over, signifying prosperity.
Article: In Pongal festival in Tamil Nadu, the day's celebrations include a morning ceremony of boiling rice with milk and jaggery called Sakkarai pongal in Tamil, in clay pots individually or as a community, which is allowed to boil over, signifying prosperity.
Thanks. I have made then changes in the artcile.Nvvchar. 06:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The parts I quoted were just examples; there are still many instances of close paraphrasing remaining in the article.
Sojourner in the earth (
talk) 06:46, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I would appreacite if you could kindly mention them so that I can make amends. Nvvchar. 06:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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This article is written in
Indian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, analysed, defence) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other
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broad consensus.
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
BorgQueen (
talk) 13:17, 5 February 2023 (UTC)reply
... that the religious significance of rice in India involves the
Pongal held during a morning ceremony by boiling rice with milk and jaggery in clay mudpots? Source: citation 1 The Ultimate Guide to Cooking Rice the Indian way by Kumar Prassanjeet
@
Nvvchar and
BorgQueen: Lovely article, but my concern is that the wording of the hook is not quite right? The way it is worded now, it could be read to mean "everyone in India celebrates Pongal".
Cielquiparle (
talk) 06:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Nvvchar and
BorgQueen: I'm afraid this article has major problems with close paraphrasing; see the
talk page. It will need to be almost entirely rewritten before it can be eligible for DYK. Also, one of the principle sources (Kumar 2015) is self-published and unreliable.
Sojourner in the earth (
talk) 21:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Charran (2011) is also a self-published source —
DaxServer (
t ·
m ·
c) 22:13, 31 January 2023 (UTC)reply
the first source's author is Prashant Kumar and his book has been published by "StreetLib" a well known publishing firm as can be verified in websearch. By mistake I had mentioned the source as unknown. This book source has been extensively used in this article. As regards close paraphrasing, I will make suitable changes. I would like the reviewers to allow a relook.Nvvchar. 14:34, 1 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I have supplemented Charran (2011)'s reference with two more book references with some additional text. Nvvchar. 06:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I withdraw this nomination.Nvvchar. 13:14, 5 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Close paraphrasing
This article contains extensive
close paraphrasing of its cited sources. I've given a few examples below, but the problem is present throughout the whole article.
Examples of close paraphrasing
Source: Jayashankar et al. (2002) state that according to Dr. Richharia, the well-known rice scientist in India, 40,000 varieties of rice had existed in India during the Vedic period. He has estimated that even today 200,000 varieties of rice exist in India.
Article: According to Richaria, a well known rice scientist, in India, 400,000 varieties of rice existed during the Vedic period, and even at present the number is reported to be 200,000.
Source: Rice is vital in the ceremony of Annaprashana, a ritualised first feeding, which is conducted in the baby's sixth or seventh month of life. Mashed boiled rice or a sweet rice pudding called kheer is generally fed to the child accompanied with the chanting of sacred mantras.
Article: It is also vital in the Annaprashana, a ritualistic first feeding of a child, which is conducted in the child's sixth or seventh month of life. Mashed cooked rice or a sweet rice pudding called kheer is generally fed by the parents to their child with the priest chanting mantras.
Source: Rice cultivation rites form an important part in the life of the farmer in Manipur. Agricultural activity is initiated with the rite of Loutaba, when rice, flowers, eight Burma agrimony (Eupatorium birmanicum) buds, sweets, and a handful of rice are offered to the gods with a prayer for protection from all dangers. The farmer prays for a doubling of the previous year's yield.
Article: In Manipur, in Northeast India, rice cultivation rites form an important part in the life of the farmer. Loutaba is a rite performed for rice before the start of agricultural operations in their fields, in which fistful of rice with flowers, eight Burma agrimony (Eupatorium birmanicum) buds, and sweets are made to gods with the prayer that the yield would be double of the previous year's yield.
Source: In Pongal, the day's celebrations include an early morning ceremony of boiling rice with milk and sugar in clay pots, which is allowed to boil over, signifying prosperity.
Article: In Pongal festival in Tamil Nadu, the day's celebrations include a morning ceremony of boiling rice with milk and jaggery called Sakkarai pongal in Tamil, in clay pots individually or as a community, which is allowed to boil over, signifying prosperity.
Thanks. I have made then changes in the artcile.Nvvchar. 06:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The parts I quoted were just examples; there are still many instances of close paraphrasing remaining in the article.
Sojourner in the earth (
talk) 06:46, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I would appreacite if you could kindly mention them so that I can make amends. Nvvchar. 06:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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