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A fact from Reineh appeared on Wikipedia's
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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the economy of Reineh, now in northern Israel, was so strong in the
Mamluk era that they could afford imported pottery from Syria and Italy?
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Robinson 1838 III, p207 mentions the 1837 earthquake ("heap of ruins"). However, the village remained on the north side of the road; the uncited claim that it moved can't be sustained.
Zerotalk09:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)reply
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Alt1: ... that the economy of Reineh was so strong in the
Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from
Syria and
Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017,
Er-Reina
Alt2: ... that the economy of Reineh (presently northern Israel) was so strong in the
Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from
Syria and
Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017,
Er-Reina
New enough, long enough, article is fine policy-wise and is solidly sourced, Earwig couldn't find any copyvio issues and neither could I. The hook is fine length-wise, the factoid is reasonably interesting and I was able to verify it with the given source. That being said, it doesn't specify where Reinah is located, which means it wouldn't entirely make sense to the average reader - I would be grateful if
Huldra could clarify this in the hook. QPQ is fine. This would be good to go once the hook is clarified. --
GGT (
talk)
00:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks
User:GGT; the Bisharat-link gives "map ref. 229488–521/736511–35". Those numbers refers to the location according to
Israeli Transverse Mercator, or, as it is also called, NIG or New Israel Grid.
Basically, you take
Palestine grid, (179/236, which was in the article) and add 50 to the first number (which is E-W) and then 500 to the second number, (which is N-S). (Then, possibly, add 3 numbers for the meters.)
As 1 = 1 km in the
Palestine grid, (that means that, say, 178/236 is 1 km to the east of 179/236, and 179/237 is 1 km to the north of 179/236); I think that 3 figures are enough. (229488/736511 gives the location down to the metre; suitable for an archeological dig, but not suitable for indicating the location of a town)
Hi
Huldra, I do apologise as I think my comment wasn't entirely clear. The article itself is fine. What I meant was that the hook doesn't mention where Reineh is. If the reader on the main page is to be interested by the fact that there is pottery from Syria and Italy, it would help to know in the hook that Reineh itself is in northern Israel. --
GGT (
talk)
01:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, ok
User:GGT; sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, we could put "(presently northern Israel)" after the name Reineh in the hook, but is that really necessary? Readers need only to click at
Reineh to find where it is? If you think it is necessary, I'll put it in, :)
Huldra (
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21:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Huldra: Well I would say a number of readers would not necessarily read the article if they don't understand the hook, and my first instinct was to ask "but where is Reineh?". That being said, it's not strictly necessary if you think it would make the hook clunky. --
GGT (
talk)
23:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Reineh appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 January 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the economy of Reineh, now in northern Israel, was so strong in the
Mamluk era that they could afford imported pottery from Syria and Italy?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palestine, a team effort dedicated to building and maintaining comprehensive, informative and balanced articles related to the geographic
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Robinson 1838 III, p207 mentions the 1837 earthquake ("heap of ruins"). However, the village remained on the north side of the road; the uncited claim that it moved can't be sustained.
Zerotalk09:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Alt1: ... that the economy of Reineh was so strong in the
Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from
Syria and
Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017,
Er-Reina
Alt2: ... that the economy of Reineh (presently northern Israel) was so strong in the
Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from
Syria and
Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017,
Er-Reina
New enough, long enough, article is fine policy-wise and is solidly sourced, Earwig couldn't find any copyvio issues and neither could I. The hook is fine length-wise, the factoid is reasonably interesting and I was able to verify it with the given source. That being said, it doesn't specify where Reinah is located, which means it wouldn't entirely make sense to the average reader - I would be grateful if
Huldra could clarify this in the hook. QPQ is fine. This would be good to go once the hook is clarified. --
GGT (
talk)
00:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks
User:GGT; the Bisharat-link gives "map ref. 229488–521/736511–35". Those numbers refers to the location according to
Israeli Transverse Mercator, or, as it is also called, NIG or New Israel Grid.
Basically, you take
Palestine grid, (179/236, which was in the article) and add 50 to the first number (which is E-W) and then 500 to the second number, (which is N-S). (Then, possibly, add 3 numbers for the meters.)
As 1 = 1 km in the
Palestine grid, (that means that, say, 178/236 is 1 km to the east of 179/236, and 179/237 is 1 km to the north of 179/236); I think that 3 figures are enough. (229488/736511 gives the location down to the metre; suitable for an archeological dig, but not suitable for indicating the location of a town)
Hi
Huldra, I do apologise as I think my comment wasn't entirely clear. The article itself is fine. What I meant was that the hook doesn't mention where Reineh is. If the reader on the main page is to be interested by the fact that there is pottery from Syria and Italy, it would help to know in the hook that Reineh itself is in northern Israel. --
GGT (
talk)
01:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Ah, ok
User:GGT; sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, we could put "(presently northern Israel)" after the name Reineh in the hook, but is that really necessary? Readers need only to click at
Reineh to find where it is? If you think it is necessary, I'll put it in, :)
Huldra (
talk)
21:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Huldra: Well I would say a number of readers would not necessarily read the article if they don't understand the hook, and my first instinct was to ask "but where is Reineh?". That being said, it's not strictly necessary if you think it would make the hook clunky. --
GGT (
talk)
23:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply