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![]() | On 15 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Rebecca Bradley (judge). The result of the discussion was moved to Rebecca Bradley. |
She publicly apologized, and that apology has been sourced. inclusion is merited by news coverage in 2 major daily publications in Wisconsin. cecilgol ( talk) 17:57, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
It is quite likely User:Rlgbjd is Rebecca Bradley herself. https://twitter.com/arizonasunblock/status/1687615861840855040?s=20 GhostofDebs ( talk) 00:50, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Among Judge Bradley's edits are two paragraphs that appear to have been well sourced and have not yet been restored. Propose reinstating them. The deleted text is copied below for discussion. They both appear to satisfy WP:RS although their length might deserve scrutiny per WP:UNDUE.
Please note, Judge Bradley's changes are complex edits that also rewrote and changed the focus of other parts of her bio. The text copied below doesn't reflect the full scope of either diff. These are extracted for brevity. Her other changes deserve review and possible reversion or rewriting too.
According to the Milwaukee Sentinel-Journal, Judge Bradley's changes did include one genuine factual correction. Quoting their report, "In addition to substantive issues, Bradley also updated her photo and corrected one clear error. Her Wikipedia page said she had participated in the Thomas More Society, a right-wing, nonprofit law firm. Instead, she was a member of the St. Thomas More Lawyers Society, a group of Catholic lawyers and judges."
Other than that, her changes introduced serious WP:COI and WP:NPOV problems.
The full news report may be useful in reviewing & revising this bio. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2023/08/14/justice-rebecca-bradley-edits-out-criticism-on-wikipedia-page/70576397007/
Her full edit history is at /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Rlgbjd
Yet since the most straightforward content to reconsider are here deletions, here's the text she removed:
From the diff https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rebecca_Bradley_(justice)&diff=prev&oldid=1147282994
Then from the diff https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rebecca_Bradley_(justice)&diff=prev&oldid=1147283603
Submitting for community consideration. A. Nonna Moose ( talk) 22:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved to Rebecca Bradley. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer ( t · m · e · c) 05:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Rebecca Bradley (justice) → Rebecca Bradley (judge) – A few months ago, this was moved in good faith but without discussion by User:Someone who's wrong on the internet from Rebecca Bradley (judge) to Rebecca Bradley (justice). While this move was surely in good faith, it goes against a longstanding practice of using "judge" as a disambiguator for someone who is any level of judge (including a justice) in the same way that we use "politician" as a disambiguator for a senator unless there is another politician with the same name such that disambiguation can best be accomplished using "senator" as a disambiguator. The vast majority of ambiguously named justices in Wikipedia use "judge" as their disambiguator, and I see no case for an exception here, particularly considering that there is only one other person with this name, and that person is not any kind of judge. I would also consider it acceptable to deem the judge the primary topic of the name, and do away with a disambiguator altogether. BD2412 T 03:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Not sure why we need to discuss adding the section of her already proven allegations of her scrubbing her page of criticism. ExactingScrutiny ( talk) 15:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Editing on this point has been controversial so I am cautious to change anything, but here's a Wikipedia style point.
The details of her college writing don't need to be repeated (with some differences, eg, columns, or letters and columns?, different quotations pulled out) in both the "early life" and "2016 election" sections. I suggest moving all details about what she wrote in college from the 2016 section into the section on the time she wrote them, the "early life" section, and then replacing that paragraph in the 2016 section with a short description of what happened in 2016, eg, "During the campaign [XYZ] criticized her, asserting that she demonstrated racism and homophobia in her college writings described above. On [date], 2016, she issued an apology for those writings." Including quotes from both sides if possible.
Reactions welcome. Sullidav ( talk) 11:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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She publicly apologized, and that apology has been sourced. inclusion is merited by news coverage in 2 major daily publications in Wisconsin. cecilgol ( talk) 17:57, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
It is quite likely User:Rlgbjd is Rebecca Bradley herself. https://twitter.com/arizonasunblock/status/1687615861840855040?s=20 GhostofDebs ( talk) 00:50, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Among Judge Bradley's edits are two paragraphs that appear to have been well sourced and have not yet been restored. Propose reinstating them. The deleted text is copied below for discussion. They both appear to satisfy WP:RS although their length might deserve scrutiny per WP:UNDUE.
Please note, Judge Bradley's changes are complex edits that also rewrote and changed the focus of other parts of her bio. The text copied below doesn't reflect the full scope of either diff. These are extracted for brevity. Her other changes deserve review and possible reversion or rewriting too.
According to the Milwaukee Sentinel-Journal, Judge Bradley's changes did include one genuine factual correction. Quoting their report, "In addition to substantive issues, Bradley also updated her photo and corrected one clear error. Her Wikipedia page said she had participated in the Thomas More Society, a right-wing, nonprofit law firm. Instead, she was a member of the St. Thomas More Lawyers Society, a group of Catholic lawyers and judges."
Other than that, her changes introduced serious WP:COI and WP:NPOV problems.
The full news report may be useful in reviewing & revising this bio. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2023/08/14/justice-rebecca-bradley-edits-out-criticism-on-wikipedia-page/70576397007/
Her full edit history is at /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Rlgbjd
Yet since the most straightforward content to reconsider are here deletions, here's the text she removed:
From the diff https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rebecca_Bradley_(justice)&diff=prev&oldid=1147282994
Then from the diff https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rebecca_Bradley_(justice)&diff=prev&oldid=1147283603
Submitting for community consideration. A. Nonna Moose ( talk) 22:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
References
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link)
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link)
The result of the move request was: moved to Rebecca Bradley. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer ( t · m · e · c) 05:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Rebecca Bradley (justice) → Rebecca Bradley (judge) – A few months ago, this was moved in good faith but without discussion by User:Someone who's wrong on the internet from Rebecca Bradley (judge) to Rebecca Bradley (justice). While this move was surely in good faith, it goes against a longstanding practice of using "judge" as a disambiguator for someone who is any level of judge (including a justice) in the same way that we use "politician" as a disambiguator for a senator unless there is another politician with the same name such that disambiguation can best be accomplished using "senator" as a disambiguator. The vast majority of ambiguously named justices in Wikipedia use "judge" as their disambiguator, and I see no case for an exception here, particularly considering that there is only one other person with this name, and that person is not any kind of judge. I would also consider it acceptable to deem the judge the primary topic of the name, and do away with a disambiguator altogether. BD2412 T 03:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Not sure why we need to discuss adding the section of her already proven allegations of her scrubbing her page of criticism. ExactingScrutiny ( talk) 15:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Editing on this point has been controversial so I am cautious to change anything, but here's a Wikipedia style point.
The details of her college writing don't need to be repeated (with some differences, eg, columns, or letters and columns?, different quotations pulled out) in both the "early life" and "2016 election" sections. I suggest moving all details about what she wrote in college from the 2016 section into the section on the time she wrote them, the "early life" section, and then replacing that paragraph in the 2016 section with a short description of what happened in 2016, eg, "During the campaign [XYZ] criticized her, asserting that she demonstrated racism and homophobia in her college writings described above. On [date], 2016, she issued an apology for those writings." Including quotes from both sides if possible.
Reactions welcome. Sullidav ( talk) 11:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)