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Obama is local in the context and hence his reaction is removed. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
It may be noted that there was an extended discussion about having this article in the main article but it was split up to here. I looked in the talk page of the main article of the shooting and cannot find it. I hope someone did not remove it because that hurts Wikipedia. Auchansa ( talk) 06:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I do see another user's point. They might want the article to be only about heads of government comments and condolences. However, this is not the title.
I say that we should respect the title of the article. In the mean time, let others improve and add. Don't just remove the whole section. Think of how this article started. The leaders' reactions kept on being removed by others and it was hard to retrieve.
Others' opinions? Auchansa ( talk) 07:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Why use only the leader? There have been reports of tributes and demonstrations by people in Moscow, Bangalore, Karachi and in Monrovia, Liberia. Should those be added somewhere? There is also the reaction by various editorial boards and journalists that could be included, and perhaps even some social media, if it is notable enough.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 07:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Barring any International entity coming in with direct aid or assistance to the affected families, this is not really a good encyclopedic topic but certainly would be appropriate at Wikinews and something that we can link to from the main article on the shooting. (I'm pretty sure we can transwiki from here to there without a problem; we just can't transwiki the reverse direction). -- MASEM ( t) 19:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
The worse thing to do is to support merge then don't really merge it but destroy the article.
This article can be improved by detailing the international reaction, providing sources, like news article mainly about the widespread international reaction, and adding stuff besides some heads of government saying sorry.
Auchansa ( talk) 04:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Some other people, not me, have suggested to drop the word "international" from the title. The U.S. is part of international and dropping the international word could open the door wider for U.S. reactions, including policy debates.
But first, there is an AFD deletion debate that needs to be settled. Nobody is going to improve to article with an AFD gun to the head. Auchansa ( talk) 06:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
It is a big stretch to say that the conspiracy theories are a reaction. Instead, consider them for the main article.
Also the term "conspiracy theory" is a biased term. "Alternate theory" is a better term, especially if you think there is some merit. If you don't think it has merit, then "wacky theory", ha ha. Auchansa ( talk) 04:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
The present conspiracy (theory) section is very badly written and unreferenced. -- Hugh7 ( talk) 22:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Reaction to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "armedNYT":
Reference named "Armed Guards WP":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
I say keep it. Notable people such as the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and Putin have addressed the massacre, the latter asking Obama to give the victims his personal respects. Even the Iranian FM condemned the massacre, comparing it to death of children in Syria and Palestine; that's also notable given the relationship between Iran and the US. The section shows that the shooting has had an impact outside the country, how people see the United States and comparative gun laws.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 04:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Today, I am further summarizing the Gun control subsection of this article. Yesterday, I spent the day doing the same on the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting article, which is documented on that article's talk page. Lightbreather ( talk) 16:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
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Obama is local in the context and hence his reaction is removed. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
It may be noted that there was an extended discussion about having this article in the main article but it was split up to here. I looked in the talk page of the main article of the shooting and cannot find it. I hope someone did not remove it because that hurts Wikipedia. Auchansa ( talk) 06:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I do see another user's point. They might want the article to be only about heads of government comments and condolences. However, this is not the title.
I say that we should respect the title of the article. In the mean time, let others improve and add. Don't just remove the whole section. Think of how this article started. The leaders' reactions kept on being removed by others and it was hard to retrieve.
Others' opinions? Auchansa ( talk) 07:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Why use only the leader? There have been reports of tributes and demonstrations by people in Moscow, Bangalore, Karachi and in Monrovia, Liberia. Should those be added somewhere? There is also the reaction by various editorial boards and journalists that could be included, and perhaps even some social media, if it is notable enough.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 07:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Barring any International entity coming in with direct aid or assistance to the affected families, this is not really a good encyclopedic topic but certainly would be appropriate at Wikinews and something that we can link to from the main article on the shooting. (I'm pretty sure we can transwiki from here to there without a problem; we just can't transwiki the reverse direction). -- MASEM ( t) 19:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
The worse thing to do is to support merge then don't really merge it but destroy the article.
This article can be improved by detailing the international reaction, providing sources, like news article mainly about the widespread international reaction, and adding stuff besides some heads of government saying sorry.
Auchansa ( talk) 04:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Some other people, not me, have suggested to drop the word "international" from the title. The U.S. is part of international and dropping the international word could open the door wider for U.S. reactions, including policy debates.
But first, there is an AFD deletion debate that needs to be settled. Nobody is going to improve to article with an AFD gun to the head. Auchansa ( talk) 06:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
It is a big stretch to say that the conspiracy theories are a reaction. Instead, consider them for the main article.
Also the term "conspiracy theory" is a biased term. "Alternate theory" is a better term, especially if you think there is some merit. If you don't think it has merit, then "wacky theory", ha ha. Auchansa ( talk) 04:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
The present conspiracy (theory) section is very badly written and unreferenced. -- Hugh7 ( talk) 22:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Reaction to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "armedNYT":
Reference named "Armed Guards WP":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
I say keep it. Notable people such as the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and Putin have addressed the massacre, the latter asking Obama to give the victims his personal respects. Even the Iranian FM condemned the massacre, comparing it to death of children in Syria and Palestine; that's also notable given the relationship between Iran and the US. The section shows that the shooting has had an impact outside the country, how people see the United States and comparative gun laws.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 04:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Today, I am further summarizing the Gun control subsection of this article. Yesterday, I spent the day doing the same on the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting article, which is documented on that article's talk page. Lightbreather ( talk) 16:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)