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There are a lot of very ugly reactions out there especially from extremist religious and right-wing people/media like Yeni Akit, and from the perpetrator's father. I would like to have some input from LGBTQ people if, what and how this should be mentioned here? -- S I 22:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This article is called Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, as in it should be expanded to include prose like info from the sources that are out there. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
It is entirely appropriate for a reaction page to include primarily quotes. This does not make it un-encyclopedic. On the contrary, a reaction page is a special kind of page that never existed in a traditional encyclopedia and is entirely appropriate for a post-internet era of widespread personal media applications and usage. As a scholar and futurist of internet culture, I encourage Wikipedia to loosen their stated standard with regards to reaction pages (and/or other pages in which many quotations may be warranted).
PaulBHartzog ( talk) 16:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
In a deletion discussion as to whether to keep or merge this article, I added that there was content needed wrt criticism of Republican reactions. A discussion ensued, and these are my subsequent comments from there (non-relevant part of the comment from there redacted):
- Mardus / talk 15:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Whatever the unsympathetic reaction in the Turkish newspaper (Yeni Akit) is, it isn't a 'popular reaction' and it isn't important enough to be so early in the article. there wasn't an obvious move so simply recorded here. Pincrete ( talk) 22:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Under political reactions, it says that Alaska governor Bill Walker ordered them at half staff. I know in my state of Wisconsin Governor Walker did the same. I checked Wisconsin's website and it says that Obama ordered all flags to be lowered to half staff. I'm not sure but I believe this should be changed in the article. Ghoul flesh (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
@ PaulBHartzog: above seems OK with the quotations we have, as am I. I tried taking the tag off but got reverted by User:John. [2] I don't think anyone is seriously working on taking quotes out, nor suggesting which - my feeling is that in a contentious yet solemn topic that we want to keep some decorum about, by far the best thing is just to quote what people said so we don't have endless POV battles over how to paraphrase it to give advantage for one side or the other. Wnt ( talk) 16:03, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm surprised that we've had this (clunky) language or something close to it in the lede for some time;
...the USA's internal discussion for constitutional reform in relation to the gun control related rights...
I read "constitutional reform" as an attempt to amend the US Constitution, which isn't happening. And linking the phrase "constitutional reform" (my emphasis) to the Second Amendment doesn't ring true. How about this:
...the domestic US debate about constitutional rights and gun control...
Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 18:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
The F bomb used in Richard Marx's comment(he said "We should demand more of our elected officials rather than their fucking thoughts and prayers") is rather tasteless and out of place with Wikipedia standards. If the comment is to remain, I suggest editing it so that it sounds more clean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Not done We can't change his quote and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTCENSORED.
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Edds might want to chip inn here [4]. Slatersteven ( talk) 14:58, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
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There are a lot of very ugly reactions out there especially from extremist religious and right-wing people/media like Yeni Akit, and from the perpetrator's father. I would like to have some input from LGBTQ people if, what and how this should be mentioned here? -- S I 22:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This article is called Reactions to the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, as in it should be expanded to include prose like info from the sources that are out there. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
It is entirely appropriate for a reaction page to include primarily quotes. This does not make it un-encyclopedic. On the contrary, a reaction page is a special kind of page that never existed in a traditional encyclopedia and is entirely appropriate for a post-internet era of widespread personal media applications and usage. As a scholar and futurist of internet culture, I encourage Wikipedia to loosen their stated standard with regards to reaction pages (and/or other pages in which many quotations may be warranted).
PaulBHartzog ( talk) 16:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
In a deletion discussion as to whether to keep or merge this article, I added that there was content needed wrt criticism of Republican reactions. A discussion ensued, and these are my subsequent comments from there (non-relevant part of the comment from there redacted):
- Mardus / talk 15:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Whatever the unsympathetic reaction in the Turkish newspaper (Yeni Akit) is, it isn't a 'popular reaction' and it isn't important enough to be so early in the article. there wasn't an obvious move so simply recorded here. Pincrete ( talk) 22:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Under political reactions, it says that Alaska governor Bill Walker ordered them at half staff. I know in my state of Wisconsin Governor Walker did the same. I checked Wisconsin's website and it says that Obama ordered all flags to be lowered to half staff. I'm not sure but I believe this should be changed in the article. Ghoul flesh (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
@ PaulBHartzog: above seems OK with the quotations we have, as am I. I tried taking the tag off but got reverted by User:John. [2] I don't think anyone is seriously working on taking quotes out, nor suggesting which - my feeling is that in a contentious yet solemn topic that we want to keep some decorum about, by far the best thing is just to quote what people said so we don't have endless POV battles over how to paraphrase it to give advantage for one side or the other. Wnt ( talk) 16:03, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm surprised that we've had this (clunky) language or something close to it in the lede for some time;
...the USA's internal discussion for constitutional reform in relation to the gun control related rights...
I read "constitutional reform" as an attempt to amend the US Constitution, which isn't happening. And linking the phrase "constitutional reform" (my emphasis) to the Second Amendment doesn't ring true. How about this:
...the domestic US debate about constitutional rights and gun control...
Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 18:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
The F bomb used in Richard Marx's comment(he said "We should demand more of our elected officials rather than their fucking thoughts and prayers") is rather tasteless and out of place with Wikipedia standards. If the comment is to remain, I suggest editing it so that it sounds more clean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graylandertagger ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Not done We can't change his quote and Wikipedia is
WP:NOTCENSORED.
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Edds might want to chip inn here [4]. Slatersteven ( talk) 14:58, 16 February 2018 (UTC)