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Something to remember. The community wants these articles. AusLondonder ( talk) 06:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
The list of quotes in this article should be moved to November 2015 Paris attacks. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, whereas Wikiquote is a source of quotations. This article should contain prose with limited use of quotations per WP:What Wikipedia is not. I'm looking for a consensus on this issue before it is done. I'm not involved with Wikiquote, but I think so long as we bear in mind the effects it will have there, a cross-wiki consensus can be achieved here. Regards, Jolly Ω Janner 22:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Great to see someone has finally done this! The Attacks article was too long and while Reactions is an important aspect, it really is preferable to include that in this article. Once I figure out who achieved this, I will thank the person. Peter K Burian 15:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
When the content about various countries' plans re: accepting refugees was moved to this article, from November 2015 Attacks in Paris, I felt that was a wise move.
But now, I see that the much of the content about the response of the countries mentioned above have been deleted. Most of the long list of numerous countries' responses does not include that information. The long list of countries primarily offers commentary as to how sad they are for France. (OK, the one for Poland includes a bit of the content about refugees.)
Surprisingly, the long section about Canada's acceptance of refugees, and USA's, has not been deleted ... yet ... (thankfully).
I will be adding information back about the reactions of European countries re: accepting refugees from Syria, after they heard that the attackers in Paris had Syrian connections and training. This is one of the important reactions! The other one is the tight security at previously open borders. I believe some of that was removed too but I still need to check more closely. e.g. France's extension of the state of emergency.
If someone deletes all the sections that I add - most of which was initially in the Reactions section of the Attacks article, and considered highly suitable -- I will file for Dispute Resolution. Peter K Burian 22:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Poland's European affairs minister designate Konrad Szymański declared that, in the wake of the attacks, he saw no possibility of enacting the recent EU refugee relocation scheme.[220][221] The new Prime Minister of Poland, Beata Szydlo acknowledged that Poland is bound by international treaties, and said she would ask the EU to change its decision on refugee quotas.[222][223] Szydlo later stated that Poland would honour the commitment made by the previous government to accommodate 9000 refugees.[224][225] Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, rejected the concept of mandatory resettlement quotas.[226] Andrej Babiš, Czech deputy prime minister, proposed closing the Schengen border.[227] Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka said the attacks were a wake-up call for Europe.[228] Sobotka also criticized president Milos Zeman for supporting anti-Islamic groups and spreading hatred, according to Reuters, whose report adds that the Sobotka government has been deporting migrants.[229] Slovakia's prime minister, Robert Fico, said he was confirmed right about the links between Middle East migrants and security.[230]
NOTE: I believe that all of this should be deleted (below) because they are all reactionary comments, so they belong only in the Reactions article.) Do you agree?
This should be deleted, since the same topics - in more detail. now - are now covered in the Reactions article: Poland's European affairs minister designate Konrad Szymański declared that, in the wake of the attacks, he saw no possibility of enacting the recent EU refugee relocation scheme.[220][221] The new Prime Minister of Poland, Beata Szydlo acknowledged that Poland is bound by international treaties, and said she would ask the EU to change its decision on refugee quotas.[222][223] Szydlo later stated that Poland would honour the commitment made by the previous government to accommodate 9000 refugees.[224][225] Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, rejected the concept of mandatory resettlement quotas.[226] Andrej Babiš, Czech deputy prime minister, proposed closing the Schengen border.[227] Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka said the attacks were a wake-up call for Europe.[228] Sobotka also criticized president Milos Zeman for supporting anti-Islamic groups and spreading hatred, according to Reuters, whose report adds that the Sobotka government has been deporting migrants.[229] Slovakia's prime minister, Robert Fico, said he was confirmed right about the links between Middle East migrants and security.[230]
Peter K Burian 00:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
None of the three images currently headlining the page show a proper Tricolore - probably because they are all tall thin structures - and are not very impressive images per se. Perhaps keep the best one and swap the other two with a couple of those from the much better gallery below. Davidships ( talk) 21:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
The lead images have been turned back into three skyscrapers by Castncoot. I kind of agree with their rationale that the One World Trade Center should probably be included, but I wouldn't go with three skyscrapers (the other rationale of "svelte-ness" doesn't seem very convincing): the previous two images were more varied and looked much more like a French flag. I would compromise by including those two, and the One WTC. LjL ( talk) 02:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
@ John: wait, you said "per talk", but was there ever an agreement here to remove the images from the lead completely? I think we were just discussing which two or three images were most appropriate. LjL ( talk) 23:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
So now we have three images, two of which are both from London, all three from Europe (the excuse being that Sydney is already in the other article). This is simply ridiculous. LjL ( talk) 01:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the slideshow. Always nice to stop by and see what the current photographs are. Bod ( talk) 03:13, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
There has been (hoaxing) rumors that the terrorists trained in Minecraft. I strongly believe that's a hoax, but a Spanish Google News search brought up this, so maybe it warrants inclusion. I'm not sure, so that's why I'm bringing it here. -- TL22 ( talk) 14:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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For the certain editors itching to "knife" and template this article in absolute defiance of the community please be aware that the following pages, all in the same style of this article, have been kept:
Something to remember. The community wants these articles. AusLondonder ( talk) 06:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
The list of quotes in this article should be moved to November 2015 Paris attacks. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, whereas Wikiquote is a source of quotations. This article should contain prose with limited use of quotations per WP:What Wikipedia is not. I'm looking for a consensus on this issue before it is done. I'm not involved with Wikiquote, but I think so long as we bear in mind the effects it will have there, a cross-wiki consensus can be achieved here. Regards, Jolly Ω Janner 22:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Great to see someone has finally done this! The Attacks article was too long and while Reactions is an important aspect, it really is preferable to include that in this article. Once I figure out who achieved this, I will thank the person. Peter K Burian 15:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
When the content about various countries' plans re: accepting refugees was moved to this article, from November 2015 Attacks in Paris, I felt that was a wise move.
But now, I see that the much of the content about the response of the countries mentioned above have been deleted. Most of the long list of numerous countries' responses does not include that information. The long list of countries primarily offers commentary as to how sad they are for France. (OK, the one for Poland includes a bit of the content about refugees.)
Surprisingly, the long section about Canada's acceptance of refugees, and USA's, has not been deleted ... yet ... (thankfully).
I will be adding information back about the reactions of European countries re: accepting refugees from Syria, after they heard that the attackers in Paris had Syrian connections and training. This is one of the important reactions! The other one is the tight security at previously open borders. I believe some of that was removed too but I still need to check more closely. e.g. France's extension of the state of emergency.
If someone deletes all the sections that I add - most of which was initially in the Reactions section of the Attacks article, and considered highly suitable -- I will file for Dispute Resolution. Peter K Burian 22:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Poland's European affairs minister designate Konrad Szymański declared that, in the wake of the attacks, he saw no possibility of enacting the recent EU refugee relocation scheme.[220][221] The new Prime Minister of Poland, Beata Szydlo acknowledged that Poland is bound by international treaties, and said she would ask the EU to change its decision on refugee quotas.[222][223] Szydlo later stated that Poland would honour the commitment made by the previous government to accommodate 9000 refugees.[224][225] Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, rejected the concept of mandatory resettlement quotas.[226] Andrej Babiš, Czech deputy prime minister, proposed closing the Schengen border.[227] Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka said the attacks were a wake-up call for Europe.[228] Sobotka also criticized president Milos Zeman for supporting anti-Islamic groups and spreading hatred, according to Reuters, whose report adds that the Sobotka government has been deporting migrants.[229] Slovakia's prime minister, Robert Fico, said he was confirmed right about the links between Middle East migrants and security.[230]
NOTE: I believe that all of this should be deleted (below) because they are all reactionary comments, so they belong only in the Reactions article.) Do you agree?
This should be deleted, since the same topics - in more detail. now - are now covered in the Reactions article: Poland's European affairs minister designate Konrad Szymański declared that, in the wake of the attacks, he saw no possibility of enacting the recent EU refugee relocation scheme.[220][221] The new Prime Minister of Poland, Beata Szydlo acknowledged that Poland is bound by international treaties, and said she would ask the EU to change its decision on refugee quotas.[222][223] Szydlo later stated that Poland would honour the commitment made by the previous government to accommodate 9000 refugees.[224][225] Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, rejected the concept of mandatory resettlement quotas.[226] Andrej Babiš, Czech deputy prime minister, proposed closing the Schengen border.[227] Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka said the attacks were a wake-up call for Europe.[228] Sobotka also criticized president Milos Zeman for supporting anti-Islamic groups and spreading hatred, according to Reuters, whose report adds that the Sobotka government has been deporting migrants.[229] Slovakia's prime minister, Robert Fico, said he was confirmed right about the links between Middle East migrants and security.[230]
Peter K Burian 00:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
None of the three images currently headlining the page show a proper Tricolore - probably because they are all tall thin structures - and are not very impressive images per se. Perhaps keep the best one and swap the other two with a couple of those from the much better gallery below. Davidships ( talk) 21:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
The lead images have been turned back into three skyscrapers by Castncoot. I kind of agree with their rationale that the One World Trade Center should probably be included, but I wouldn't go with three skyscrapers (the other rationale of "svelte-ness" doesn't seem very convincing): the previous two images were more varied and looked much more like a French flag. I would compromise by including those two, and the One WTC. LjL ( talk) 02:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
@ John: wait, you said "per talk", but was there ever an agreement here to remove the images from the lead completely? I think we were just discussing which two or three images were most appropriate. LjL ( talk) 23:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
So now we have three images, two of which are both from London, all three from Europe (the excuse being that Sydney is already in the other article). This is simply ridiculous. LjL ( talk) 01:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the slideshow. Always nice to stop by and see what the current photographs are. Bod ( talk) 03:13, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
There has been (hoaxing) rumors that the terrorists trained in Minecraft. I strongly believe that's a hoax, but a Spanish Google News search brought up this, so maybe it warrants inclusion. I'm not sure, so that's why I'm bringing it here. -- TL22 ( talk) 14:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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