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Hey folks!
I have heard rumors that SOME of the colour footage in Rattle and Hum was not usable, so they had to set up the stage again indoors somewhere, bring the band back in and re-shoot those songs.
This makes sense for several reasons:
I'll admit that this is all speculation on my part, but it all seems logical from the reasons I've stated above.
Can anyone shed some light on whether in fact this is what U2 and crew did?
thanks!
I think that the article should be split into two articles - one for the album, and one for the film. Since the film was released in theaters, I think it deserves its own article separate from the album. At the same time, the album deserves its own article as it is an album on its own, and not a soundtrack from the film. The album and the film are equally important, so the main article Rattle and Hum should become a disambiguation page, with links to Rattle and Hum (film) and Rattle and Hum (album). I would NOT say the same for Under a Blood Red Sky because its video release was not a mainstream film and should not be differentiated so much from its album. -- Crashintome4196 01:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I’m never much one for blindly following precedents, but perhaps in theory it should be two, but in practise is there that much to gain? How about we try a split – we can always reverse it. :-) -- Merbabu ( talk) 03:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I was recently reading Brave New World, and Huxley speaks of the "... hum and rattle [of machinery]..." (Chapter III). Is it possible this is what inspired the album title (or at least the phrase in Bullet the Blue Sky, from which it comes)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.100.55.108 ( talk) 12:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
A number of songs from this album have been tagged for merging here. These articles fail WP:MUSIC:
Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.
If any of these songs have charted, received any awards, been featured in major films or TV shows or anything else that makes them notable according to WP:MUSIC, please update these articles (with references) and remove the {{tl:mergeto}} tag. Otherwise, please merge them into this article for the album.
Merged — MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
"Rock" doesn't seem to do the sound of the album justice. "Rock" seems like an acceptable word to use when you cannot categorize the music or place it into a genre, but it seems to me like like roots rock is a perfectly acceptable way to define this album. Roots rock is defined by Wikipedia as "style of rock music that draws material from various American musical traditions including country, blues, and folk." I'm not sure there's a better definition of this album's sound. U2 recorded these songs and made efforts on their Joshua Tree Tour and Lovetown Tour to pay tribute to American music legends. If you need proof that the songs exhibit the above influence, just listen to them: "Desire" has a bluesy-Bo Diddley sound to it, "When Love Comes to Town" is about as bluesy as U2 gets. "Heartland" is very much folk-inspired. "Angel of Harlem" has tinges of gospel - heck, even the live version of "I Still Haven't Found..." features a gospel choir in the background. "Love Rescue Me" sounds like an amalgamation of blues and country. I think "roots rock" is the perfect way to describe this album. Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 19:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's a reference to support my edits: http://www.allmusicguide.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wcfexql5ldde Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 03:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The album is actually the soundtrack (technically) to the Rattle and Hum film. That's what it's all about. They wouldn't of put live versions of older songs on their other albums, because they are proper non-soundtrack studio albums. Almost every song (not exactly every one, but most) on the album was also in the film. In one way, it's a soundtrack to a great extent, seeing that other soundtracks like Obscured by Clouds are indeed studio albums but soundtracks. -- 92.235.128.38 ( talk) 16:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Rattle and Hum's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I have posted the details of track listing on LP record format, after looking photos and album details from www.rateyourmusic.com and www,discogs.com, but the user Y2kcrazyjoker4 has deleted all those track listing, saying that these sources are not reliable. But I have linked with such pages which has track listing details with front & back covers, inside lyric sheets and label photos. So why that user have deleted all my contribution from this page?
If those track listing details with front & back covers, inside lyric sheets and label photos are not reliable, so which source will be reliable?
I will be grateful if anyone inform me. am ( talk) 18:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
I want to propose that this article is split into two seperate articles: Rattle and Hum (album) and Rattle and Hum (film). I first proposed this idea about 17 years ago (see #Split into two articles) but it didn't go anywhere. Now that the article has grown significantly since then, it's much more clear that two articles are needed. Rattle and Hum is both an album and a standalone documentary film (and I don't believe there is a primary topic between the two). There is music on the album that is not in the film, and music in the film that's not on the album. Sections like "Reception", "Track listing", and "Certification and sales" each have two subsections for the film and album, respectively. The "Charts" section only applies to the album, and the "History" section mostly discusses the film with only a brief mention of the album. Plus, the article needs a "Synopsis" section to summarize the film (which would not apply to the album). Would love to get some feedback on this. – Dream out loud ( talk) 11:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey folks!
I have heard rumors that SOME of the colour footage in Rattle and Hum was not usable, so they had to set up the stage again indoors somewhere, bring the band back in and re-shoot those songs.
This makes sense for several reasons:
I'll admit that this is all speculation on my part, but it all seems logical from the reasons I've stated above.
Can anyone shed some light on whether in fact this is what U2 and crew did?
thanks!
I think that the article should be split into two articles - one for the album, and one for the film. Since the film was released in theaters, I think it deserves its own article separate from the album. At the same time, the album deserves its own article as it is an album on its own, and not a soundtrack from the film. The album and the film are equally important, so the main article Rattle and Hum should become a disambiguation page, with links to Rattle and Hum (film) and Rattle and Hum (album). I would NOT say the same for Under a Blood Red Sky because its video release was not a mainstream film and should not be differentiated so much from its album. -- Crashintome4196 01:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I’m never much one for blindly following precedents, but perhaps in theory it should be two, but in practise is there that much to gain? How about we try a split – we can always reverse it. :-) -- Merbabu ( talk) 03:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I was recently reading Brave New World, and Huxley speaks of the "... hum and rattle [of machinery]..." (Chapter III). Is it possible this is what inspired the album title (or at least the phrase in Bullet the Blue Sky, from which it comes)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.100.55.108 ( talk) 12:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
A number of songs from this album have been tagged for merging here. These articles fail WP:MUSIC:
Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album.
If any of these songs have charted, received any awards, been featured in major films or TV shows or anything else that makes them notable according to WP:MUSIC, please update these articles (with references) and remove the {{tl:mergeto}} tag. Otherwise, please merge them into this article for the album.
Merged — MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
"Rock" doesn't seem to do the sound of the album justice. "Rock" seems like an acceptable word to use when you cannot categorize the music or place it into a genre, but it seems to me like like roots rock is a perfectly acceptable way to define this album. Roots rock is defined by Wikipedia as "style of rock music that draws material from various American musical traditions including country, blues, and folk." I'm not sure there's a better definition of this album's sound. U2 recorded these songs and made efforts on their Joshua Tree Tour and Lovetown Tour to pay tribute to American music legends. If you need proof that the songs exhibit the above influence, just listen to them: "Desire" has a bluesy-Bo Diddley sound to it, "When Love Comes to Town" is about as bluesy as U2 gets. "Heartland" is very much folk-inspired. "Angel of Harlem" has tinges of gospel - heck, even the live version of "I Still Haven't Found..." features a gospel choir in the background. "Love Rescue Me" sounds like an amalgamation of blues and country. I think "roots rock" is the perfect way to describe this album. Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 19:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's a reference to support my edits: http://www.allmusicguide.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wcfexql5ldde Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 03:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The album is actually the soundtrack (technically) to the Rattle and Hum film. That's what it's all about. They wouldn't of put live versions of older songs on their other albums, because they are proper non-soundtrack studio albums. Almost every song (not exactly every one, but most) on the album was also in the film. In one way, it's a soundtrack to a great extent, seeing that other soundtracks like Obscured by Clouds are indeed studio albums but soundtracks. -- 92.235.128.38 ( talk) 16:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Rattle and Hum's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Christgau":
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I have posted the details of track listing on LP record format, after looking photos and album details from www.rateyourmusic.com and www,discogs.com, but the user Y2kcrazyjoker4 has deleted all those track listing, saying that these sources are not reliable. But I have linked with such pages which has track listing details with front & back covers, inside lyric sheets and label photos. So why that user have deleted all my contribution from this page?
If those track listing details with front & back covers, inside lyric sheets and label photos are not reliable, so which source will be reliable?
I will be grateful if anyone inform me. am ( talk) 18:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
I want to propose that this article is split into two seperate articles: Rattle and Hum (album) and Rattle and Hum (film). I first proposed this idea about 17 years ago (see #Split into two articles) but it didn't go anywhere. Now that the article has grown significantly since then, it's much more clear that two articles are needed. Rattle and Hum is both an album and a standalone documentary film (and I don't believe there is a primary topic between the two). There is music on the album that is not in the film, and music in the film that's not on the album. Sections like "Reception", "Track listing", and "Certification and sales" each have two subsections for the film and album, respectively. The "Charts" section only applies to the album, and the "History" section mostly discusses the film with only a brief mention of the album. Plus, the article needs a "Synopsis" section to summarize the film (which would not apply to the album). Would love to get some feedback on this. – Dream out loud ( talk) 11:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC)