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The entry needs some redirects. You can't get here from "Rape/Revenge" -- the title has spaces, like this "Rape / Revenge". Also redirect from Rape Revenge, Rape-Revenge, Rape and Revenge, plus those terms with the word "film" or "movie" in them. There is no standard terminology for this genre.
I also put in a "dubious - discuss" notation, Here's why. First the entry says
Next it says "In some cases, the man is killed at the end of the first act, and the revenge is carried out by his family."
Ah, excuse me? If these films all follow the same structure with the man surviving to take revenge, then how come he's killed in "some cases"? I would have changed it to "many" RR movies have this structure, but that too needs a citation. So I think this problem needs some clarification.
I added a few references. If you Google "rape revenge", you will get a good many more hits.
I'm not trying to change the status of this entry -- just clear it up and add some much needed references.
Timothy Perper 13:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
This should probably be discussed on the page. In order for a rape/revenge film to be an exploitation, the subject material must be exploited. Care should be taken to make sure the films on this place are actually exploitation films. I've made a comment on Irreversible as there's a lot of controversy whether or not it is exploitation or not. I don't think it is, and neither do many film critics. Perhaps this can be discussed in further detail. 68.149.187.132 ( talk) 19:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Straw Dogs does not really fit the article's definition of a female rape victim getting revenge on her rapists. Although there is indeed, a lengthy rape that is central to Straw Dogs (two, in fact), it is not the female victim who gets revenge - it is her husband who kills the men. Perhaps even more important, the husband does not even know that his wife has been raped. He kills the men because they invade his house while he is offering sanctuary to a retarded man that the men are trying to lynch. The husband's motives involve protecting the man, but more importantly it seems, defending his own home, and (as a pacifist pushed too far) proving his own masculinity/bravery (which has been constantly challenged by the local men since he arrived in the village) to both himself and his wife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.168.58 ( talk) 22:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
One might argue that Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill was an homage to R & R in addition to many other films 131.202.9.242 ( talk) 17:19, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
What exactly does "where the lack of modern technology made the world a more vulnerable place." mean, or refer to? 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 07:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I included The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2009) - it clearly has a very notable and controversial R & R subplot. I don't know if the 2011 version follows the same structure, because it was just released at the time of this note. The R & R subplot is a linchpin to the second book/film as well - The Girl Who Played with Fire (film). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.103.91 ( talk) 04:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Irreversible is an interesting entry in this article because although it is a rape and revenge film, it isn't an exploitation film, as the subject material of rape and revenge is never actually exploited. Roger Ebert gives a strong argument for this and I think that it's notable to include this fact in the article. 68.149.187.132 ( talk) 19:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
It's like Kill Bill but no rape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.235.94.88 ( talk) 13:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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Was this article translated from another language? Aside from the occasional broken English (in the first line alone: "is a film subgenre was used", "all of them bears"), there are a few strange word choices and dubious concepts. Here's some of those that immediately stood out to me.
And that was just the introduction! Other sections seem in better shape, but I completely fail to understand what the "Opposite of the subgenre" section is actually talking about. I can't tell what an "opposite" is in this context, and the descriptions of the works don't help. Is it possible it was meant to say "subversion"? Again, this just feels poorly translated. Kumagoro-42 ( talk) 23:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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The entry needs some redirects. You can't get here from "Rape/Revenge" -- the title has spaces, like this "Rape / Revenge". Also redirect from Rape Revenge, Rape-Revenge, Rape and Revenge, plus those terms with the word "film" or "movie" in them. There is no standard terminology for this genre.
I also put in a "dubious - discuss" notation, Here's why. First the entry says
Next it says "In some cases, the man is killed at the end of the first act, and the revenge is carried out by his family."
Ah, excuse me? If these films all follow the same structure with the man surviving to take revenge, then how come he's killed in "some cases"? I would have changed it to "many" RR movies have this structure, but that too needs a citation. So I think this problem needs some clarification.
I added a few references. If you Google "rape revenge", you will get a good many more hits.
I'm not trying to change the status of this entry -- just clear it up and add some much needed references.
Timothy Perper 13:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
This should probably be discussed on the page. In order for a rape/revenge film to be an exploitation, the subject material must be exploited. Care should be taken to make sure the films on this place are actually exploitation films. I've made a comment on Irreversible as there's a lot of controversy whether or not it is exploitation or not. I don't think it is, and neither do many film critics. Perhaps this can be discussed in further detail. 68.149.187.132 ( talk) 19:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Straw Dogs does not really fit the article's definition of a female rape victim getting revenge on her rapists. Although there is indeed, a lengthy rape that is central to Straw Dogs (two, in fact), it is not the female victim who gets revenge - it is her husband who kills the men. Perhaps even more important, the husband does not even know that his wife has been raped. He kills the men because they invade his house while he is offering sanctuary to a retarded man that the men are trying to lynch. The husband's motives involve protecting the man, but more importantly it seems, defending his own home, and (as a pacifist pushed too far) proving his own masculinity/bravery (which has been constantly challenged by the local men since he arrived in the village) to both himself and his wife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.168.58 ( talk) 22:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
One might argue that Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill was an homage to R & R in addition to many other films 131.202.9.242 ( talk) 17:19, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
What exactly does "where the lack of modern technology made the world a more vulnerable place." mean, or refer to? 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 07:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
I included The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2009) - it clearly has a very notable and controversial R & R subplot. I don't know if the 2011 version follows the same structure, because it was just released at the time of this note. The R & R subplot is a linchpin to the second book/film as well - The Girl Who Played with Fire (film). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.103.91 ( talk) 04:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Irreversible is an interesting entry in this article because although it is a rape and revenge film, it isn't an exploitation film, as the subject material of rape and revenge is never actually exploited. Roger Ebert gives a strong argument for this and I think that it's notable to include this fact in the article. 68.149.187.132 ( talk) 19:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
It's like Kill Bill but no rape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.235.94.88 ( talk) 13:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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Was this article translated from another language? Aside from the occasional broken English (in the first line alone: "is a film subgenre was used", "all of them bears"), there are a few strange word choices and dubious concepts. Here's some of those that immediately stood out to me.
And that was just the introduction! Other sections seem in better shape, but I completely fail to understand what the "Opposite of the subgenre" section is actually talking about. I can't tell what an "opposite" is in this context, and the descriptions of the works don't help. Is it possible it was meant to say "subversion"? Again, this just feels poorly translated. Kumagoro-42 ( talk) 23:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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