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I've added coverage to West Virginia's rail trails (there were a LOT more than I had previously thought), and will be writing seperate articles for each in the upcoming days. Seicer ( talk) 18:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need two seperate pages devoted to this topic? I noticed about an hour ago the non-exhaustive list, but I'm debating on whether or not the list is needed when it can be effectively combined on the main article page - with edits done to bring it up to par. An example would be to introduce subheaders for each state under 'United States'. Seicer ( talk) 02:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I note that there is a discussion currently about whether to merge the articles on rail trails and rail banks. While this makes sense in the USA, there never has been a rail bank in the UK where, in most cases, the closure of a railway has been followed by piecemeal sell-offs which have broken up the linear integrity of the route. Since the mid 1990s, national and local government has taken a more constructive approach, often seeking to preserve unwarranted rail routes as rail trails; but there is still no national rail bank. Therefore, I would recommend keeping the articles separate, but ensuring that there are good links between the two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.43.20.95 ( talk) 23:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC).
Reasons: 1. This category has been meticulously collected, and contains exclusively (or almost?) american trails. 2. The category will otherwise grow to include all trails in the world, becoming way too big. - I propose we rename this category for the USA only. Rail trails in other countries can have their own categories, eg. "Rail trails in the United Kingdom". The main article "Rail trails" can stay as it is, as it describes all trails globally. Bards 04:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Eh? I've only seen rail to trails in various parts of the USA, but never any with as much as 50 feet of paved width. None of the photos in the article show anything that wide, either. Has someone perhaps accidentally mixed a pavement discussion with an easement measure? Jim.henderson 13:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
There are 2 kinds of rail trails, rails to trails and rails with trails. How about moving most of the content of this article (back?) to Rails to trails? -- Una Smith ( talk) 02:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
How about this? Before introducing content from Rails with trails, in this article try separating the content that applies to all rail trails from the content that applies only to rails to trails. -- Una Smith ( talk) 21:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
The article lead now defines "rails to trails" as segregated cycle facilities. Those are roads, tracks, paths or marked lanes which are designated for the preferential or exclusive use of cyclists. Rail trails usually are not segregated cycle facilities. -- Una Smith ( talk) 22:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
After trails have opened, have any been converted back to rail lines, either wholesale (closing the trail) or as a rail with trail? -- NE2 18:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
What exactly is this called? Its a device people can attach to their bicycle so it can ride on railroad tracks. There are different variations on it but I'm betting they're all grouped under one technical name. It seems like it ought to be mentioned in this article, or at least linked to it. With the latter I am assuming somebody has already created an article for this device. Anybody know what its called? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 23:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
In my experience, at least in the U.S., there are some pretty scetchy sections of rail trails. Basically, many of the residential areas that were developed along rail roads were not always the "nicest" of areas...generally lower class neighborhoods (slums) with higher levels of crimes. Not exactly conducive for a family bicycle ride. Also, the draw for transients along the trails...as well as muggers and other criminal elements (sometimes delinquent youths or gangs)...has made some portions of rail trails "target areas" for crime or assaults (rape, attack, etc). This type of thing is not exactly advertised in the brochures, but I have a few sources I am working through (mainly to check reliability and verifiability) that talk about this.
I will post the sources here first, but I am curious what others think, and if this information would be useful in the article...and, if so, in what format. A "controversies" section comes to mind, but that's not quite right. Anyway, I am just putting this out there for discussion. The sources in question to follow in a day or so. David Able ( talk) 23:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised by the newly added globalize tag. The article has a lot about non-US trails... Xenophonix ( talk) 23:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: White, Cliff (22 May 2012). "Railroad company gets OK to reclaim tracks; decision will eliminate half of Rails to Trails". Centre Daily Times. Retrieved 9 July 2012.. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)
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I've added coverage to West Virginia's rail trails (there were a LOT more than I had previously thought), and will be writing seperate articles for each in the upcoming days. Seicer ( talk) 18:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need two seperate pages devoted to this topic? I noticed about an hour ago the non-exhaustive list, but I'm debating on whether or not the list is needed when it can be effectively combined on the main article page - with edits done to bring it up to par. An example would be to introduce subheaders for each state under 'United States'. Seicer ( talk) 02:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I note that there is a discussion currently about whether to merge the articles on rail trails and rail banks. While this makes sense in the USA, there never has been a rail bank in the UK where, in most cases, the closure of a railway has been followed by piecemeal sell-offs which have broken up the linear integrity of the route. Since the mid 1990s, national and local government has taken a more constructive approach, often seeking to preserve unwarranted rail routes as rail trails; but there is still no national rail bank. Therefore, I would recommend keeping the articles separate, but ensuring that there are good links between the two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.43.20.95 ( talk) 23:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC).
Reasons: 1. This category has been meticulously collected, and contains exclusively (or almost?) american trails. 2. The category will otherwise grow to include all trails in the world, becoming way too big. - I propose we rename this category for the USA only. Rail trails in other countries can have their own categories, eg. "Rail trails in the United Kingdom". The main article "Rail trails" can stay as it is, as it describes all trails globally. Bards 04:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Eh? I've only seen rail to trails in various parts of the USA, but never any with as much as 50 feet of paved width. None of the photos in the article show anything that wide, either. Has someone perhaps accidentally mixed a pavement discussion with an easement measure? Jim.henderson 13:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
There are 2 kinds of rail trails, rails to trails and rails with trails. How about moving most of the content of this article (back?) to Rails to trails? -- Una Smith ( talk) 02:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
How about this? Before introducing content from Rails with trails, in this article try separating the content that applies to all rail trails from the content that applies only to rails to trails. -- Una Smith ( talk) 21:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
The article lead now defines "rails to trails" as segregated cycle facilities. Those are roads, tracks, paths or marked lanes which are designated for the preferential or exclusive use of cyclists. Rail trails usually are not segregated cycle facilities. -- Una Smith ( talk) 22:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
After trails have opened, have any been converted back to rail lines, either wholesale (closing the trail) or as a rail with trail? -- NE2 18:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
What exactly is this called? Its a device people can attach to their bicycle so it can ride on railroad tracks. There are different variations on it but I'm betting they're all grouped under one technical name. It seems like it ought to be mentioned in this article, or at least linked to it. With the latter I am assuming somebody has already created an article for this device. Anybody know what its called? -- 98.232.180.37 ( talk) 23:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
In my experience, at least in the U.S., there are some pretty scetchy sections of rail trails. Basically, many of the residential areas that were developed along rail roads were not always the "nicest" of areas...generally lower class neighborhoods (slums) with higher levels of crimes. Not exactly conducive for a family bicycle ride. Also, the draw for transients along the trails...as well as muggers and other criminal elements (sometimes delinquent youths or gangs)...has made some portions of rail trails "target areas" for crime or assaults (rape, attack, etc). This type of thing is not exactly advertised in the brochures, but I have a few sources I am working through (mainly to check reliability and verifiability) that talk about this.
I will post the sources here first, but I am curious what others think, and if this information would be useful in the article...and, if so, in what format. A "controversies" section comes to mind, but that's not quite right. Anyway, I am just putting this out there for discussion. The sources in question to follow in a day or so. David Able ( talk) 23:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised by the newly added globalize tag. The article has a lot about non-US trails... Xenophonix ( talk) 23:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: White, Cliff (22 May 2012). "Railroad company gets OK to reclaim tracks; decision will eliminate half of Rails to Trails". Centre Daily Times. Retrieved 9 July 2012.. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)
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