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Searching on Google Scholar, it's pretty clear that the subject is notable. However, it's also clear from the first few pages of Google Scholar results for "racism in Zimbabwe", contemporary conditions for the white minority are pretty much always contextualized with Zimbabwe's prior history of colonization, and reliable sources seem to resist calling anti-white violence "racism". The article needs to be significantly expanded and rewritten. signed, Rosguill talk 03:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
On review, I don't see a way to incorporate most of the provided sources or content added in this edit.
For the Genocide Watch source, the claim about being "Category 5 genocide" takes the source totally out of context and confuses a watchdog's warning about the potential for genocide with actual genocide. As for the rest of the content, it calls the massacres of Ndebele people a genocide, but given that we have abundant academic sources that avoid that language I see no reason to prefer an advocacy organization's framing. Otherwise it has no information relating to racism not already included in the article.
The CNN news piece is mostly an interview primary source accounts, and moreover doesn't back up the specific numbers provided in the claim. The Gold Coast AU article is a dead link. I'm going to go ahead and use the CNN source to add specific claims about the degree of violence in 2005. Still, for such a sensitive topic we should be deferring to academic coverage of the subject, rather than advocacy groups or news channels. signed, Rosguill talk 06:34, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
IP, having looked at the provided sources in this edit, the Times Live article does not support the claims, the Telegraph piece is an opinion columnist and thus not reliable for this subject matter, and the New Zimbabwe piece is a 404. signed, Rosguill talk 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
This article is very broadly about racism perpetuated by both white and black members of Zimbabwe against eachother. Is there any reason why "Racism against whites in Africa" as a category needs to be here? As if it's any more signifigant? 2603:8080:F600:14E7:609A:2A4D:FF05:48A6 ( talk) 18:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Searching on Google Scholar, it's pretty clear that the subject is notable. However, it's also clear from the first few pages of Google Scholar results for "racism in Zimbabwe", contemporary conditions for the white minority are pretty much always contextualized with Zimbabwe's prior history of colonization, and reliable sources seem to resist calling anti-white violence "racism". The article needs to be significantly expanded and rewritten. signed, Rosguill talk 03:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
On review, I don't see a way to incorporate most of the provided sources or content added in this edit.
For the Genocide Watch source, the claim about being "Category 5 genocide" takes the source totally out of context and confuses a watchdog's warning about the potential for genocide with actual genocide. As for the rest of the content, it calls the massacres of Ndebele people a genocide, but given that we have abundant academic sources that avoid that language I see no reason to prefer an advocacy organization's framing. Otherwise it has no information relating to racism not already included in the article.
The CNN news piece is mostly an interview primary source accounts, and moreover doesn't back up the specific numbers provided in the claim. The Gold Coast AU article is a dead link. I'm going to go ahead and use the CNN source to add specific claims about the degree of violence in 2005. Still, for such a sensitive topic we should be deferring to academic coverage of the subject, rather than advocacy groups or news channels. signed, Rosguill talk 06:34, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
IP, having looked at the provided sources in this edit, the Times Live article does not support the claims, the Telegraph piece is an opinion columnist and thus not reliable for this subject matter, and the New Zimbabwe piece is a 404. signed, Rosguill talk 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
This article is very broadly about racism perpetuated by both white and black members of Zimbabwe against eachother. Is there any reason why "Racism against whites in Africa" as a category needs to be here? As if it's any more signifigant? 2603:8080:F600:14E7:609A:2A4D:FF05:48A6 ( talk) 18:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)