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It should be possible to find out from official statistcs exactly which diseases or circumstances cause the lower life expectancy. Ultramarine 06:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
futurebird 06:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that much of this material should be in the Race or Racism articles. There could be a smally summary in thie article and a link to these main articles. Ultramarine 06:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
This article should not be merged with health disparities. First off, these are two separate subjects, with health disparities being a subsubject of this article. This means there are large sections of this article which would not be appropriate in the health disparities article. I like how the article is now, with a section of this article being about health disparities with a link to the main health disparities article. Please note, though, that my comments have nothing to do with the larger issues raised on this article's talk page. Only about merging the two articles. Best, -- Alabamaboy 23:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
the US is 40% obese, the vast majority of the obese people are "european americans". this is not a "low" risk and doctors don't treat it that way. doctors they don't make any decisions or recommendations based on these low risks ("i see you're white, feel free to eat mcdonalds regularly....you're at a low risk for obesity"). this should be rephrased or removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 16:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC).
The section on Health disparities does not work. The first paragraph mentions both health and health care. The second paragraph only adduces instances of differences in health. I think that if the section is going to mean anything it should report any correlations between health of the various [races] and the quality of health care being afforded to them. If lots of people in one group are dying because of melanoma, is that simply because that group is susceptible to that disease, or is it because there is no public health initiative to teach people to look for symptoms, because people's concerns are pooh-poohed when they seek care, because members of that group get poor care when they do present for treatment, etc. P0M 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this table should be deleted because it is overly simplistic. there are no figures to back it up. Muntuwandi 04:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
What is SES supposed to mean? It is linked to an article but "socio-economic" only explains the "SE" part. Readers should not be forced to guess. P0M 02:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Posting some sources to add. futurebird 15:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
http://www.alternet.org/rights/64567/ The Health Risks of Racism By Molly M. Ginty, Women's eNews. Posted October 9, 2007.
Black women are twice as likely as white women to give birth prematurely and five times more likely to do so in Southern states such as Mississippi.
A black woman is 3.7 times more likely to die during pregnancy than a white woman and six times more likely to do so in some urban areas such as New York City.
The center's 19-member Courage to Love: Infant Mortality Commission -- funded by the W.K. Kellogg Foundation and partnering with the UCLA School of Public Affairs and the University of Michigan's NIH Roadmap Disparities Center -- says the health problems of black women and black infants stem not just from inadequate medical care but from stress, racism, poverty and other social pressures.
Only 75 percent of African American women have prenatal care compared to 89 percent of white women.
Black women are more likely than their peers to have hypertension and diabetes, which can leave the fetus undernourished.
Should we add this image? futurebird 17:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I take caution to saying that gene accelerates in africans. I know it prevents aids in whites but it seems to be no where else. YVNP ( talk) 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 18:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the name of this article be changed to "Race and health in the United States". Any comments? -- Saul Greenberg ( talk) 14:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Human Biology Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human genetics and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library system at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to other libraries in the same large metropolitan area) and have been researching these issues sporadically since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human genetics to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 23:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
WeijiBaikeBianji, it seems that you want to discuss with me why you think the content that you’ve removed from this article misrepresents its source. You already explained this here [1] According to your comments there, the only part that misrepresents its source was the first sentence, which I chose to change in order to be more accurate. In my edit the first sentence said "New interest in human biological variation has resulted in a resurgence of the use of race in biomedicine." And what the source says is, "Far from waning in the age of molecular genetics, race has been resurgent in biomedical discourse, especially in relation to a torrent of new interest in human biological variation and its quantification."
Keep in mind that all of the sources cited here are online for free, so I can personally read them just as anyone else can. In addition to explaining why all of the content you’ve blanked in this paragraph misrepresented its sources, you also need to explain how the content you’re replacing it with is “neutral.” The content you’ve replaced it with says “this practice is criticized by epidemiologists who have carefully studied how little "race" serves as a predictor of disease.” Why do you use scare quotes around the word race, when none of the sources do this? And do you not see anything wrong with the neutrality of talking about epidemiologists “carefully studying how little it predicts disease”, emphasizing your view that it does not predict disease very much, and that people who believe otherwise haven’t studied this carefully? For me, this doesn’t seem very neutral.- SightWatcher ( talk) 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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04:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)There are a number of articles which all deal with ethnic groups/race/ancestral groups/population genetic structure groups and health. This is confusing and causes duplication. So I propose that they should be merged into one article. Miradre ( talk) 12:37, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
When you focus on Section 3 "Racial mixtures of blacks and whites in modern America" and read closely the 4th paragraph, especially the sentences -
(1)... Most of the free African-American families in Virginia in colonial years were the descendants of white women and African men. ...
(2) ... The admixture also reflects conditions under slavery, when African women were often taken advantage of by white planters or their sons, or overseers. ...
- then I feel not certain about whether those mixed marriages consisted of white woman with African man as it is mentioned in the first cited sentence. The concept of white plantagers exploiting African women seems to give more sense, but do not these two different versions presented in the 1st and 2nd sentence contradict each other?
Just a suggestion. Feel free to educate me on that. -J- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.179.12.39 ( talk) 19:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm aware that this article is US centric. Anyone have any sources that could help expand the scope? futurebird 17:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't have any sources, but as far as I know, there are several german studies concerning the health of turkish migrants/communication problems with doctors etc. in germany. Maybe that could be one direction to do further research? 87.160.227.109 11:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree - the current page should be merged into USA Race & Health- but I have a slight grievance as my own page - ethnicity and health - was designed to try and re-balance the debate from a UK/EU perspective based on work in UK - although i accept that i had not updated it recently and had been overtaken by other tasks - and now have forgotten most of what I knew about wiki editing! I am about to go on a refresher course and will undertake, if agreed, to restore and update the ethnicity page which focuses more on non-USa and less genetic emphasis on role of culture and ethnicity in health care - would this help? I did also write a chapter for a book, with a German colleague - on Turkish migrants and health research: not sure if we can cite that as it is not available online:
‘Representation of ethnic minorities in research – Necessity, opportunity and adverse effects’ in (Eds Lorraine Culley, Nicky Hudson and Floor van Rooij ) Marginalized Reproduction: Ethnicity, Infertility and Reproductive Technologies (Mark R D Johnson & Theda Borde) London: Earthscan 2009 Chapter 4 :64-80 (ISBN: 978-1-84407-576-8)
hope this helps
(Editor, the international journal "Diversity & Equality in Health & Care" ) Msrc ( talk) 14:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
The problem is that most of the countries don't even make statistics based on racial groups (particularly not on the American terminology of race). In most countries most statistics of this kind, if exist, exist on ethnicity and not race. I suggest merging it entirely with Race and health in the United States or renaming the article to Ethnicity and Health and completely rewriting it. Given that 'racial groups' are by definition a social construct it isn't surprising that it is written with regard to the dubious social constructs relating to a particular society. FonsScientiae ( talk) 22:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
me again: vested interest in that i set up the original 'ethnicity and health' pages but have not been active in editing and correcting / checking it when was deleted! Sorry - there is a lot on this issue of the statistics basis and ways of recording - and social constructions of race. Not sure where to begin: maybe I need to retire fully from work and spend the rest of my life on the project.
for what it is worth, will set a watch list and try to respond and think - after I go on a refresher course at my University (De Montfort University) on editing Wikipedia, as we are trying to get into the 21st century in UK now...
would a resume of one of my chapters on 'monitoring diversity' be helpful? Msrc ( talk) 14:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Despite th name, the "Race in biomedicine" article is almost exclusively about genetic explanations and nothing else. Should it be merged to this article? Ultramarine 06:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You said it yourself: "Despite the name, the "Race in biomedicine" article is almost exclusively about genetic explanations and nothing else." Keep one article for genetics-only research and keep the other article for the shotgun "race" approach to discovering causal effects. If you just merge the articles then the distinction between race and genetics will be lost. P0M 05:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The section on "Eight separate Americas" needs to point out that there are at least three separate kinds of causal factors that may be involved:
The non-genetic factors can be associated with genetic factors simply because people isolated enough to have some degree of genetic specificity are also likely to have evolved their own cultural inventions.
One factor that is often remarked on is that some cultures can make people wary of seeking psychotherapy for fear of ostracism or at least negative reactions from their cohorts. The flip side is that some cultures may have institutions that maximize psychological nurture and mental health. P0M 23:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Murray says he was surprised to find that lack of health insurance explained only a small portion of those gaps. Instead, differences in alcohol and tobacco use, blood pressure, cholesterol and obesity seemed to drive death rates.
Since there is a Medical genetics article, Race in biomedicine article should be merged with it, not with this article. P0M 05:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
This page must refer to "Native Americans" as "American Indians." There is no proof to support that they are the native population. — Preceding
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Under heading "Environmental Factors" second paragraph it is stated that "When populations become more urban, it increases the availability of cheap sources of fat."
Where do you find cheap sources of fat? Or any animal derived fat for that matter? The lard that is frequently found in supermarkets is not a food product! In fact you can buy it, unwrap it, and leave it outdoors, and no animal will touch it!
I sometimes think about the existence, somewhere, in some hidden location, of a giant mountain of fat composed of all the sweet morsels of fat trimming... then I stop daydreaming and come to the cold conclusion that all that fat is used in some industrial product such as soap. Perhaps the "rendering" mafia gets it...
Please edit that section to match reality or supply references. 67.206.183.100 ( talk) 21:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Iieeeric, happy to review but best time would be before Friday 12/6/13. Let me know. Emhawkins ( talk) 07:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Anthropology and Human Biology Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human genetics and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library system at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to other academic libraries in the same large metropolitan area) and have been researching these issues sporadically since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human genetics to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. I invite all the rest of you to review the source list and suggest new sources for it, and meanwhile I'll add some of the better current sources to the further reading section of this article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 23:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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Wikipedia has a lot of interesting articles based on the ongoing research in human molecular genetics that helps trace the lineage of people living in various places on the earth. I've been reading university textbooks on human genetics "for fun" since the 1980s, and for even longer I've been visiting my state flagship university's vast BioMedical Library to look up topics on human medicine and health care policy. On the hypothesis that better sources build better articles as all of us here collaborate to build an encyclopedia, I thought I would suggest some sources for improving articles on human genetic history and related articles. The Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources in medicine provide a helpful framework for evaluating sources.
The guidelines on reliable sources for medicine remind editors that "it is vital that the biomedical information in all types of articles be based on reliable, third-party, published sources and accurately reflect current medical knowledge."
Ideal sources for such content includes literature reviews or systematic reviews published in reputable medical journals, academic and professional books written by experts in the relevant field and from a respected publisher, and medical guidelines or position statements from nationally or internationally recognised expert bodies.
The guidelines, consistent with the general Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources, remind us that all "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources" (emphasis in original). They helpfully define a primary source in medicine as one in which the authors directly participated in the research or documented their personal experiences. By contrast, a secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources, usually to provide an overview of the current understanding of a medical topic. The general Wikipedia guidelines let us know that "Articles should rely on secondary sources whenever possible. For example, a review article, monograph, or textbook is better than a primary research paper. When relying on primary sources, extreme caution is advised: Wikipedians should never interpret the content of primary sources for themselves."
Two review articles in prominent journals about human population genetics are bringing together analysis of the many recent studies of human DNA, including DNA from ancient individuals.
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It should be possible to find out from official statistcs exactly which diseases or circumstances cause the lower life expectancy. Ultramarine 06:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
futurebird 06:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that much of this material should be in the Race or Racism articles. There could be a smally summary in thie article and a link to these main articles. Ultramarine 06:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
This article should not be merged with health disparities. First off, these are two separate subjects, with health disparities being a subsubject of this article. This means there are large sections of this article which would not be appropriate in the health disparities article. I like how the article is now, with a section of this article being about health disparities with a link to the main health disparities article. Please note, though, that my comments have nothing to do with the larger issues raised on this article's talk page. Only about merging the two articles. Best, -- Alabamaboy 23:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
the US is 40% obese, the vast majority of the obese people are "european americans". this is not a "low" risk and doctors don't treat it that way. doctors they don't make any decisions or recommendations based on these low risks ("i see you're white, feel free to eat mcdonalds regularly....you're at a low risk for obesity"). this should be rephrased or removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.112.7.212 ( talk) 16:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC).
The section on Health disparities does not work. The first paragraph mentions both health and health care. The second paragraph only adduces instances of differences in health. I think that if the section is going to mean anything it should report any correlations between health of the various [races] and the quality of health care being afforded to them. If lots of people in one group are dying because of melanoma, is that simply because that group is susceptible to that disease, or is it because there is no public health initiative to teach people to look for symptoms, because people's concerns are pooh-poohed when they seek care, because members of that group get poor care when they do present for treatment, etc. P0M 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this table should be deleted because it is overly simplistic. there are no figures to back it up. Muntuwandi 04:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
What is SES supposed to mean? It is linked to an article but "socio-economic" only explains the "SE" part. Readers should not be forced to guess. P0M 02:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Posting some sources to add. futurebird 15:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
http://www.alternet.org/rights/64567/ The Health Risks of Racism By Molly M. Ginty, Women's eNews. Posted October 9, 2007.
Black women are twice as likely as white women to give birth prematurely and five times more likely to do so in Southern states such as Mississippi.
A black woman is 3.7 times more likely to die during pregnancy than a white woman and six times more likely to do so in some urban areas such as New York City.
The center's 19-member Courage to Love: Infant Mortality Commission -- funded by the W.K. Kellogg Foundation and partnering with the UCLA School of Public Affairs and the University of Michigan's NIH Roadmap Disparities Center -- says the health problems of black women and black infants stem not just from inadequate medical care but from stress, racism, poverty and other social pressures.
Only 75 percent of African American women have prenatal care compared to 89 percent of white women.
Black women are more likely than their peers to have hypertension and diabetes, which can leave the fetus undernourished.
Should we add this image? futurebird 17:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I take caution to saying that gene accelerates in africans. I know it prevents aids in whites but it seems to be no where else. YVNP ( talk) 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 18:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the name of this article be changed to "Race and health in the United States". Any comments? -- Saul Greenberg ( talk) 14:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Human Biology Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human genetics and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library system at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to other libraries in the same large metropolitan area) and have been researching these issues sporadically since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human genetics to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 23:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
WeijiBaikeBianji, it seems that you want to discuss with me why you think the content that you’ve removed from this article misrepresents its source. You already explained this here [1] According to your comments there, the only part that misrepresents its source was the first sentence, which I chose to change in order to be more accurate. In my edit the first sentence said "New interest in human biological variation has resulted in a resurgence of the use of race in biomedicine." And what the source says is, "Far from waning in the age of molecular genetics, race has been resurgent in biomedical discourse, especially in relation to a torrent of new interest in human biological variation and its quantification."
Keep in mind that all of the sources cited here are online for free, so I can personally read them just as anyone else can. In addition to explaining why all of the content you’ve blanked in this paragraph misrepresented its sources, you also need to explain how the content you’re replacing it with is “neutral.” The content you’ve replaced it with says “this practice is criticized by epidemiologists who have carefully studied how little "race" serves as a predictor of disease.” Why do you use scare quotes around the word race, when none of the sources do this? And do you not see anything wrong with the neutrality of talking about epidemiologists “carefully studying how little it predicts disease”, emphasizing your view that it does not predict disease very much, and that people who believe otherwise haven’t studied this carefully? For me, this doesn’t seem very neutral.- SightWatcher ( talk) 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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04:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)There are a number of articles which all deal with ethnic groups/race/ancestral groups/population genetic structure groups and health. This is confusing and causes duplication. So I propose that they should be merged into one article. Miradre ( talk) 12:37, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
When you focus on Section 3 "Racial mixtures of blacks and whites in modern America" and read closely the 4th paragraph, especially the sentences -
(1)... Most of the free African-American families in Virginia in colonial years were the descendants of white women and African men. ...
(2) ... The admixture also reflects conditions under slavery, when African women were often taken advantage of by white planters or their sons, or overseers. ...
- then I feel not certain about whether those mixed marriages consisted of white woman with African man as it is mentioned in the first cited sentence. The concept of white plantagers exploiting African women seems to give more sense, but do not these two different versions presented in the 1st and 2nd sentence contradict each other?
Just a suggestion. Feel free to educate me on that. -J- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.179.12.39 ( talk) 19:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm aware that this article is US centric. Anyone have any sources that could help expand the scope? futurebird 17:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't have any sources, but as far as I know, there are several german studies concerning the health of turkish migrants/communication problems with doctors etc. in germany. Maybe that could be one direction to do further research? 87.160.227.109 11:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree - the current page should be merged into USA Race & Health- but I have a slight grievance as my own page - ethnicity and health - was designed to try and re-balance the debate from a UK/EU perspective based on work in UK - although i accept that i had not updated it recently and had been overtaken by other tasks - and now have forgotten most of what I knew about wiki editing! I am about to go on a refresher course and will undertake, if agreed, to restore and update the ethnicity page which focuses more on non-USa and less genetic emphasis on role of culture and ethnicity in health care - would this help? I did also write a chapter for a book, with a German colleague - on Turkish migrants and health research: not sure if we can cite that as it is not available online:
‘Representation of ethnic minorities in research – Necessity, opportunity and adverse effects’ in (Eds Lorraine Culley, Nicky Hudson and Floor van Rooij ) Marginalized Reproduction: Ethnicity, Infertility and Reproductive Technologies (Mark R D Johnson & Theda Borde) London: Earthscan 2009 Chapter 4 :64-80 (ISBN: 978-1-84407-576-8)
hope this helps
(Editor, the international journal "Diversity & Equality in Health & Care" ) Msrc ( talk) 14:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
The problem is that most of the countries don't even make statistics based on racial groups (particularly not on the American terminology of race). In most countries most statistics of this kind, if exist, exist on ethnicity and not race. I suggest merging it entirely with Race and health in the United States or renaming the article to Ethnicity and Health and completely rewriting it. Given that 'racial groups' are by definition a social construct it isn't surprising that it is written with regard to the dubious social constructs relating to a particular society. FonsScientiae ( talk) 22:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
me again: vested interest in that i set up the original 'ethnicity and health' pages but have not been active in editing and correcting / checking it when was deleted! Sorry - there is a lot on this issue of the statistics basis and ways of recording - and social constructions of race. Not sure where to begin: maybe I need to retire fully from work and spend the rest of my life on the project.
for what it is worth, will set a watch list and try to respond and think - after I go on a refresher course at my University (De Montfort University) on editing Wikipedia, as we are trying to get into the 21st century in UK now...
would a resume of one of my chapters on 'monitoring diversity' be helpful? Msrc ( talk) 14:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Despite th name, the "Race in biomedicine" article is almost exclusively about genetic explanations and nothing else. Should it be merged to this article? Ultramarine 06:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You said it yourself: "Despite the name, the "Race in biomedicine" article is almost exclusively about genetic explanations and nothing else." Keep one article for genetics-only research and keep the other article for the shotgun "race" approach to discovering causal effects. If you just merge the articles then the distinction between race and genetics will be lost. P0M 05:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The section on "Eight separate Americas" needs to point out that there are at least three separate kinds of causal factors that may be involved:
The non-genetic factors can be associated with genetic factors simply because people isolated enough to have some degree of genetic specificity are also likely to have evolved their own cultural inventions.
One factor that is often remarked on is that some cultures can make people wary of seeking psychotherapy for fear of ostracism or at least negative reactions from their cohorts. The flip side is that some cultures may have institutions that maximize psychological nurture and mental health. P0M 23:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Murray says he was surprised to find that lack of health insurance explained only a small portion of those gaps. Instead, differences in alcohol and tobacco use, blood pressure, cholesterol and obesity seemed to drive death rates.
Since there is a Medical genetics article, Race in biomedicine article should be merged with it, not with this article. P0M 05:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
This page must refer to "Native Americans" as "American Indians." There is no proof to support that they are the native population. — Preceding
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Under heading "Environmental Factors" second paragraph it is stated that "When populations become more urban, it increases the availability of cheap sources of fat."
Where do you find cheap sources of fat? Or any animal derived fat for that matter? The lard that is frequently found in supermarkets is not a food product! In fact you can buy it, unwrap it, and leave it outdoors, and no animal will touch it!
I sometimes think about the existence, somewhere, in some hidden location, of a giant mountain of fat composed of all the sweet morsels of fat trimming... then I stop daydreaming and come to the cold conclusion that all that fat is used in some industrial product such as soap. Perhaps the "rendering" mafia gets it...
Please edit that section to match reality or supply references. 67.206.183.100 ( talk) 21:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Iieeeric, happy to review but best time would be before Friday 12/6/13. Let me know. Emhawkins ( talk) 07:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Anthropology and Human Biology Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human genetics and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library system at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to other academic libraries in the same large metropolitan area) and have been researching these issues sporadically since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human genetics to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. I invite all the rest of you to review the source list and suggest new sources for it, and meanwhile I'll add some of the better current sources to the further reading section of this article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 23:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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Wikipedia has a lot of interesting articles based on the ongoing research in human molecular genetics that helps trace the lineage of people living in various places on the earth. I've been reading university textbooks on human genetics "for fun" since the 1980s, and for even longer I've been visiting my state flagship university's vast BioMedical Library to look up topics on human medicine and health care policy. On the hypothesis that better sources build better articles as all of us here collaborate to build an encyclopedia, I thought I would suggest some sources for improving articles on human genetic history and related articles. The Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources in medicine provide a helpful framework for evaluating sources.
The guidelines on reliable sources for medicine remind editors that "it is vital that the biomedical information in all types of articles be based on reliable, third-party, published sources and accurately reflect current medical knowledge."
Ideal sources for such content includes literature reviews or systematic reviews published in reputable medical journals, academic and professional books written by experts in the relevant field and from a respected publisher, and medical guidelines or position statements from nationally or internationally recognised expert bodies.
The guidelines, consistent with the general Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources, remind us that all "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources" (emphasis in original). They helpfully define a primary source in medicine as one in which the authors directly participated in the research or documented their personal experiences. By contrast, a secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources, usually to provide an overview of the current understanding of a medical topic. The general Wikipedia guidelines let us know that "Articles should rely on secondary sources whenever possible. For example, a review article, monograph, or textbook is better than a primary research paper. When relying on primary sources, extreme caution is advised: Wikipedians should never interpret the content of primary sources for themselves."
Two review articles in prominent journals about human population genetics are bringing together analysis of the many recent studies of human DNA, including DNA from ancient individuals.
The shared evolutionary history of living humans has resulted in a high relatedness among all living people, as indicated for example by the very low fixation index (FST) among living human populations.
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I hope administrators are aware that this article is being repeatedly visited by new sockpuppets of a previously banned editor. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 19:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)