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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk)
21:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Created by The C of E ( talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC).
"Death of a Salesman" is mentioned, but almost in a 'passing' sort of way.
How about mentioning the most obvious case --- Hamilton ?
Just curious. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D ( talk) 00:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Controversial_articles Just the fact that there are no references in the main top section. The article also credits Patrick Stewart to inventing 'Race-reversed casting', no where does it reference him coining the term, therefore how did he create it? If anything director Jude Kelly created the concept, but there's also no mention of her coining the term. How about one reference that has "Race-reversed casting" in it? My point is this is a controversial article which breaks a lot of general guidelines Ecleric ( talk) 00:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
After some consideration, I have decided to invoke the procedures of
Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion, as per that article, I added "none of the references uses the phrase "Race-reversed casting", after reviewing references, Patrick Stewart never mentioned "Race-reversed casting", this controversial article violates guidelines of
Wikipedia:Controversial_articles" to the top of the article, according to that article, this starts the seven days which is required before deletion
Ecleric (
talk)
03:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
After the delete, when you search for "Race-reversed casting" should be redirected to Color-blind casting (Pictured) like how the "blackwashing" does. If you want to take things from this article and add it to the Color-blind casting talk page, go for it, I'd be interested to see if you can credit Patrick Stewart with inventing Color-blind casting in 1997 with no references of him coining the term. I don't have the privileges to pull up the deleted article Wikipedia:Viewing_and_restoring_deleted_pages on "blackwashing", but I'm will to bet you can use the same reasons to delete this article like that one was. Ecleric ( talk) 01:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Ecleric You know you shouldn't be editing in this fashion. The musical The Wiz completely race-reversed their cast years before. The Nutty Professor did not completely 'photo negative' the cast; just certain characters. That is why the musical Hamilton was removed from this article. Pearl Bailey played Hello, Dolly! (musical) along with Cab Calloway in 1967 but that does not fit this concept. If you want to delete the page, please do so. But do not edit based on opinion without proper sourcing. This is non-productive and will result in either a block or page protect. I'll support the deletion. Kind regards, Maineartists ( talk) 13:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The goal of this section is reach a consensus about who invented blackwashing / whitewashing (Oooops I mean Race-reversed casting) I argue that since it was popularized with Eddie Murphy with the Nutty Professor in 1996. All of Patrick Stewart's claims were done in 1997 with an almost unknown play. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecleric ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Race-reversed casting into Color-blind casting. I think that the content in the Race-reversed casting article can easily be explained in the context of Color-blind casting, and the Color-blind casting article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Race-reversed casting will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. This article is referenced as such: "Race-reversed casting is one form of non-traditional casting" and could easily have a section devoted to its content. Maineartists ( talk) 15:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
“Two completely different concepts”? Building a house and making orange juice are two completely different concepts. “Photo negative casting” is an extension of “race-reversed casting”; which “non-traditionally casting” umbrellas. It all should be in the same article; as the lede states. Maineartists ( talk) 18:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There was discussion about removing / fixing this article and it was never done, just doing a follow up. It is interesting that Wikipedia is allowing misinformation like this Ecleric ( talk) 15:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk)
21:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Created by The C of E ( talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC).
"Death of a Salesman" is mentioned, but almost in a 'passing' sort of way.
How about mentioning the most obvious case --- Hamilton ?
Just curious. 2600:8800:784:8F00:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D ( talk) 00:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Controversial_articles Just the fact that there are no references in the main top section. The article also credits Patrick Stewart to inventing 'Race-reversed casting', no where does it reference him coining the term, therefore how did he create it? If anything director Jude Kelly created the concept, but there's also no mention of her coining the term. How about one reference that has "Race-reversed casting" in it? My point is this is a controversial article which breaks a lot of general guidelines Ecleric ( talk) 00:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
After some consideration, I have decided to invoke the procedures of
Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion, as per that article, I added "none of the references uses the phrase "Race-reversed casting", after reviewing references, Patrick Stewart never mentioned "Race-reversed casting", this controversial article violates guidelines of
Wikipedia:Controversial_articles" to the top of the article, according to that article, this starts the seven days which is required before deletion
Ecleric (
talk)
03:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
After the delete, when you search for "Race-reversed casting" should be redirected to Color-blind casting (Pictured) like how the "blackwashing" does. If you want to take things from this article and add it to the Color-blind casting talk page, go for it, I'd be interested to see if you can credit Patrick Stewart with inventing Color-blind casting in 1997 with no references of him coining the term. I don't have the privileges to pull up the deleted article Wikipedia:Viewing_and_restoring_deleted_pages on "blackwashing", but I'm will to bet you can use the same reasons to delete this article like that one was. Ecleric ( talk) 01:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Ecleric You know you shouldn't be editing in this fashion. The musical The Wiz completely race-reversed their cast years before. The Nutty Professor did not completely 'photo negative' the cast; just certain characters. That is why the musical Hamilton was removed from this article. Pearl Bailey played Hello, Dolly! (musical) along with Cab Calloway in 1967 but that does not fit this concept. If you want to delete the page, please do so. But do not edit based on opinion without proper sourcing. This is non-productive and will result in either a block or page protect. I'll support the deletion. Kind regards, Maineartists ( talk) 13:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The goal of this section is reach a consensus about who invented blackwashing / whitewashing (Oooops I mean Race-reversed casting) I argue that since it was popularized with Eddie Murphy with the Nutty Professor in 1996. All of Patrick Stewart's claims were done in 1997 with an almost unknown play. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecleric ( talk • contribs) 14:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose to merge Race-reversed casting into Color-blind casting. I think that the content in the Race-reversed casting article can easily be explained in the context of Color-blind casting, and the Color-blind casting article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Race-reversed casting will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. This article is referenced as such: "Race-reversed casting is one form of non-traditional casting" and could easily have a section devoted to its content. Maineartists ( talk) 15:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
“Two completely different concepts”? Building a house and making orange juice are two completely different concepts. “Photo negative casting” is an extension of “race-reversed casting”; which “non-traditionally casting” umbrellas. It all should be in the same article; as the lede states. Maineartists ( talk) 18:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There was discussion about removing / fixing this article and it was never done, just doing a follow up. It is interesting that Wikipedia is allowing misinformation like this Ecleric ( talk) 15:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)