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Discussion about the title of this article and its recent change can be found at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Changing article titles from XXXXX (US) to XXXXX (United States). Feel free to contribute. -- hike395 16:31, 27 February 2005 (UTC)
Why do people CONTINUE to revert the sentence about the OPENING AND CLOSING STATEMENT that used to air on Queer As Folk before and after the show that stated "While Queer as Folk depicts the lives of a group of gay friends, it does not represent the gay community". I'm thinking some of you are reverting that statement because you own the DVDs. The fact does remain however, that this statement did open and close the show for the first three seasons and then was omitted in the last two. Please justify your revert thanks -- Julien Deveraux 00:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I put that box there.. I a lot of other TV shows have them.. It needs to be edited, I thought an image would make the page more engaging... but feel free to delete it... - SweetSurrender — Preceding unsigned comment added by SweetSurrender ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello:
A great deal of the changes to this page have been made by myself, particularly the newer information about the production as I am a former member of the production itself and worked on the show for four of its five seasons.
On a technical note, I don't understand why the episode table is being duplicated each time I try to delete it since I intended to add to it only once. If someone knows how to delete the duplicate table, please do so...the episode table is intended to be there only once. I assure everyone here that my editing of this article is to make it more factural since I have first-hand knowledge of this series. Any "vandalism" that someone mentioned was to my own text. My only mistake I guess was not doing it with an actual account which I have now done. Thanks and please understand I only want to make the information about this show as accurate as possible.
TorontoDrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorontoDrew ( talk • contribs) 13:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Can someone please explain to me how QaF is in any way, shape, or form a teen drama?
Gothic Author — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.111.246 ( talk) 03:21, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added some additional production information to the article that somehow was deleted previously when I posted it originally anonomously. I am reposting it under my signed name. The information is accurate as I was part of the production as a background actor (extra) for the last four seasons the show was on the air. -- Drew 14:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Queer as Folk, as produced for Showtime, was a American/Canadian co-production...these are the facts to support this:
American partners: Showtime Networks Inc., CowLip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions and Warner Bros. Inc. Canadian partners: Temple Street Productions, Queer as Folk Productions Ltd. and its four successor companies
According to the information I am aware of, Showtime Network has the ownership rights and distribution rights in the U.S. and ownership rights world-wide EXCEPT for Canada. Temple Street Productions is the legal owner of the show in Canada and controller of distributions rights. Warner Bros. Inc. has the distribution rights to the series outside the U.S. and Canada.
-- Drew 22:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi there,
I am struggling to find out when/if seasons 2-5 are, or, are going to be made availble on Region 2 format. I have searched/asked all the main DVD distributors I can think of, including HMV in the UK who had the release of Season 1 US version for the UK.
I am unable to contact Showcase, as their website is not accessable from outside the US.
Any help would be much apreciated.
Regards,
Richard, UK -- 82.152.28.82 14:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Richard,
I wouldn't take this as gospel but I have heard of no plans by Showtime to release the North American (aka the U.S.) version of Queer as Folk in any format other than Region 1 NTSC. I suspect the reason is that the series, other than seasons 1 and 2, has not been widely enough released in other non-North American countries to warrant a release in other DVD formats besides Region 1 NTSC. To my knowledge, the only other English-speaking country where all five seasons of the series have been broadcast is Australia. I have heard in Britain that only some of the seasons have been shown but not all of them.
From what I know, the main priority for Showtime regarding QAF now is to get it running "off-network" which means selling the rerun broadcast rights to another cable channel the way HBO did with its Sex And The City. They claim to be negotiating with unspecified U.S. cable channels but things have been going slowly I'm sure due to the content of the series and the fact that each episode will have to be heavily edited for language and content before it can be shown on any standard U.S. cable channel.
BTW...the Showcase website WAS accessible by anyone...Showcase is the Canadian cable channel that aired the show and had a web site devoted to the series even though they were no longer broadcasting it...that website, unfortunately was taken down by Showcase at the beginning of February 2006 and is no longer available...you were probably thinking of the Showtime website in the U.S. which is in fact not accessible by anyone who has an IP address that is not an officially U.S. registered address.
Drew 18:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
There needs to be a better descrition of the characters. There's one of Bryan but it leads into a mentioning of just about all of the characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.217.6.9 ( talk) 01:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I added the rest of the "starring cast," to the box ... Peter Paige (season 1-5), Scott Lowell, (seasons 1-5) Thea Gill, (seasons 1-5) Michelle Clunie, (seasons 1-5) and Robert Gant, (seasons 2-5) because for some unknown reason they weren't included. Considering that all of these actors appeared in at least 4 or more seasons of the series, I felt they should be included too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abisel ( talk • contribs) 15:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Nearly all of the characters have their own bio page. Those without are Lindsay Peterson and Melanie Marcus.
At the start of Queer As Folk Brian is 29. By the end he is 34. This means that the whole series went for around 5 years (in the QAF universe).
-Klarth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klarth ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
"Brian Kinney: a literal sex machine" If this were true, Brian would actually be a machine... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.16.14.155 ( talk) 22:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Who played the porn star Zack O'tool? what are his other on-air appearances in other shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.111.193.9 ( talk) 15:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm referring to a reference that was removed in this article on "people of color" in favor of "non-white." If you go to the "people of color" article it says that the reason it is offensive is because of the us-vs-them attitude with the focus being whites and non-whites. If you are going to use the term non-white you might as well use the term "people of color". The phrase DOES NOT just refer to african americans, it refers to all non-caucasion peoples.-- Torourkeus 20:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Obviously, the link toward David Wellington is not the good one (director vs. writer, born in Canada vs. in Pittsburgh).
I neither know anything to say about the QAF David Wellington, nor how to make a disambiguation page, nor if it'd be very appropriate toward an empty page.
If someone could do anything about that ?
Otherwise I might come back in a week or so and create a very minimalistic page about the guy, but I really don't feel like I'm the good one for I don't heard of him before noticing this mistaking link ....
romdam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.84.98 ( talk) 13:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be very little mention of the soundtrack of the series (the music was very important to the show) or the CDs of music from the show or the "Babylon" tour which I think is going on it's 3rd or 4th year. Would be worthy of it's own section. Benjiboi 11:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted the article back to indicating that Showcase in Canada was running Queer as Folk in a 1 hour 10 minute time block by the time the series was in its last season because of so many advertisers. Someone had changed it to 90 minutes which is incorrect. I can attest to the broadcast schedule since I watched every single broadcast Showcase ever ran of the series. The extension of the series time block from 60 minutes began in the third season and varied between 65 and 70 minutes per episode with a few exceptions, one of which was the series finale which ran 75 minutes on Showcase with commercials. At no time did Showcase ever broadcast the series over a 90 minute time block during its entire 5 season run with the sole exception of the pilot episode which (in it's Canadian version) ran 2 1/2 hours with commercials and which was broadcast only once. When the pilot was re-aired later in 2001, it was split into three episodes which ran in 60 minute time blocks. Drew 04:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The final scene was more like a fantasy than reality. Where were their indications that it was going to be re-built? Joemaza 00:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with Melsaran's edit. What is controversial or potentially libelous about the actors' sexual orientations? I think the series teaches us to relax about this entirely, so I will restore the valuable background info. Roman Czyborra 11:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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Sergay removed several links to fan sites, including one I posted recently and several that have been there for a long time. I asked for clarification on why, and was directed to a post that said that social networking sites such as MySpace "and fan sites" were generally not liked per WP:LINKSTOAVOID:
"Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace or Fan sites), discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups) or USENET."
However, none of the removed links were social networking sites. They were sites built by fans, but containing articles, links to other sites, and information and discussion about the show. These external links don't seem to fall into the category of a social networking fan site, and bear no relationship to sites like MySpace, with which some types of "fan sites" are classed in the Wikipedia guideline cited.
I believe that informational sites maintained by fans are not what were intended by the guideline against "fan sites," because if they were, this guideline wouldn't have been listed under a general prohibition against "social networking" sites.
I think the removed links should be restored for this reason, and that informational fan-authored websites that provide relevant content are encyclopedic. Happier bunny ( talk) 07:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
"Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority."
So I notice this morning that an anon IP removed Houston from the list of cities with a gay area of the city. Since I've put this page on my watchlist, I've seen many changes this particular sentence adding and deleting names of towns. There appears to never be any particular reason to add or delete a town. I've never reverted or changed the section because I don't think I am fit to solely determine what cities belong on this list.
So, I'm wondering if there should be a discussion on what cities belong on this list so that that sentence can stay stable. (IOW, any edits made to the list following the discussion can be reverted back to the agreed upon list.) We can think of this as a Request for Discussion without making it an official RfD.
My Thoughts:
I'm interested to hear what others believe. So, please chime in with your thoughts. -- TreyGeek ( talk) 12:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Since when and why people started editing the discussion as well and deleting the comments of others? I wrote my fantasy of QAF in 2009 and some SOB has deleted that. Can I ask why? Realton ( talk) 18:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a suggestion if
gay/homosexual could be taken out of the first sentence, it looks excessive. (ex: The series follows the lives of five gay men living in
Pittsburgh). There was
recently a dispute going on with an IP and a few other users between gay/homosexual.
Versus22
talk 17:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that it's weird that Brian's assistant at his work has an bio but there isn't one for George, Leda, or Chris Hobbs? Anyone else think we should fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.170.113 ( talk) 19:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I've removed this section and relocated other unsourced material here. The article has been tagged for needing sourcing for over 2 years and there's no reason to use a rather cruft'y table for the DVD releases when prose would suffice. The DVD release table was not playing nicely with the collapse template, so I've linked to the original material. Doniago ( talk) 13:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Awards
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==Awards==
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The statement that the internal shots were done in Toronto is a mis-statement. Anyone who knows the city at all will recognize that its outdoors also feature largely in the series, especially the venues of Church Street and the Annex. 24.85.238.166 ( talk) 19:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Nooc1
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Filming and production
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==Filming and production==
Queer as Folk was produced by Cowlip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions and Temple Street Productions in association with Channel 4 Television Corporation (the co-owner of the original UK series) and Showcase. Warner Bros. Television holds the international distribution rights to the series outside the US and Canada (where Showtime Entertainment/ CBS Television Distribution owns the rights). The show's original theme song, "Spunk", was written and performed by Greek Buck and was used during seasons one through three. When the main title sequence for the show was changed for seasons four and five, the theme song was changed to "Cue the Pulse to Begin" performed by Burnside Project. However, as a tip-of-the-hat to Greek Buck, the count-in from "Spunk" was left in the new opening sequence before "Cue the Pulse to Begin" was played. All five seasons were filmed in wide-screen HDTV; however, only seasons 4 and 5 were regularly broadcast in HDTV in both the U.S. and Canada. In the U.S., Showtime did run Seasons 1, 2 and 3 in HDTV on Tuesday nights as a special repeat of an episode's full-screen broadcast the previous Sunday. These HDTV broadcasts from the first three seasons were not broadcast by Showcase in Canada. The episodes that appear in the commercially released DVD packages were taken from the HDTV versions. Keeping up with the technology, Queer as Folk's Season 5 was one of the first series to be recorded using the relatively new digital video process rather than being made exclusively on film. The raw digital video was combined with some scenes that were filmed into a finished episode and then color corrected using a computer process to make the entire episode appear to be filmed. Throughout all five seasons, the series was filmed primarily at Dufferin Gate Studios in Etobicoke, Ontario (a southwestern borough of Toronto). Exterior scenes however were shot in Pittsburgh. Many of Season 3's non-location scenes of Babylon, Woody's and Liberty Diner were filmed at Greystone Studios in Mississauga (the city adjacent to Toronto's western border). These same scenes for seasons 4 and 5 were filmed at the now-former Dufferin Gate Studios "B Studio" in Mississauga about 10–15 minutes from Dufferin Gate's home in Etobicoke. (This studio is now used by Shaftesbury Films as the home base for several of its projects, including the series The Listener). The series finale of Queer as Folk originally included additional scenes (some new and some extended from their final presentation) that put the episode's running time to just under 64 minutes. This extra material was deleted from the episode before it was broadcast presumably because Showtime didn't want the program to run longer than 60 minutes. The final edit of the episode is slightly over 58 minutes. The deleted scenes are presented in the Queer as Folk Season 5 DVD package. The most notable deletion was a scene near the end of the episode that pays homage to the series' first episode. In the deleted scene, a young blond-haired gay teen who looks like Justin is seen on Liberty Avenue, obviously for his first time, and as Justin did in the first episode, steps across Liberty Avenue and splashes through a puddle. This was meant to signify that the series had come full circle. It was ultimately deleted because the idea of "full circle" was already present in the final Michael-Brian scene (which preceded the deleted scene) and the use of the remix of "Proud" as the series' closing theme. |
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Queer as Folk is a North American television series that was produced for
Showtime Entertainment and
Showcase by
Cowlip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions, and
Temple Street Productions in association with
Channel 4 Television. It was developed and written by
Ron Cowen and
Daniel Lipman (
Sisters,
An Early Frost), who were the showrunners, and also the executive producers along with Tony Jonas, former President of
Warner Bros. Television.
Based on the British series created by Russell T Davies, Queer as Folk was the first hour-long drama on American television to portray the lives of gay men and women. Although it was set in Pittsburgh, PA, interior scenes were actually shot in Toronto and employed various Canadian directors known for their independent film work (including Bruce McDonald, David Wellington, Kelly Makin, John Greyson, Jeremy Podeswa and Michael DeCarlo) as well as Australian director Russell Mulcahy ( Highlander) who directed the pilot episode. Additional writers in the later seasons included Michael MacLennan, Efrem Seeger, Brad Fraser, Del Shores, and Shawn Postoff. |
Show premise
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==Show premise==
The series follows the lives of five gay men living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Brian, Justin, Michael, Emmett, and Ted; a lesbian couple, Lindsay and Melanie; and Michael's mother Debbie and his uncle Vic. Another main character, Ben, was added in the second season. |
Show history
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==Show history==
The show drew strong ratings for both Showtime and Canada's Showcase. In fact, in Canada, the series had such high ratings that by the end of the fifth season Showcase chose to air the show in hour-and-ten-minute timeblocks to accommodate all the ads without cutting any scenes. This was not a problem for Showtime, since that service is commercial-free and no ads were ever broadcast during a Queer as Folk telecast. The series ran for five seasons (2000 to 2005 on Showtime and 2001 to 2005 on Showcase). Canada's Showcase, which was making a great deal of money from the advertising demand, did briefly consider producing a sixth season, but as Showtime owned much of the rights to the series and funded much of the budget, Showcase decided against it. Another U.S. cable channel owned by Viacom, Logo, began broadcasting edited, commercially sponsored episodes of Queer as Folk on September 21, 2006. As of January 9, 2008, Showcase began offering the Canadian version of the Queer as Folk episodes on their website. These Canadian versions differ from the Showtime and DVD versions in that they have breaks within the episodes (where commercials would have been inserted) and make references to "Showcase" and "Temple Street Productions presents" instead of "Showtime presents". Unlike the Season 1 DVDs, episodes 101 and 102 are presented separately and episode 102 is the rare extended version of the episode, created for broadcast during reruns of the first season and not seen since 2002. The first seven episodes were posted on January 9 and one additional episode was posted each week after. |
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==Character profiles==
Main characters
Secondary characters
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Plot
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==Plot==
The first episode finds the four friends ending a night at Babylon, a popular gay club. Brian picks up and has sex with Justin, who falls in love with him and eventually becomes more than a one-night-stand. Brian also becomes a father that night, bearing a son with Lindsay through artificial insemination. Michael's seemingly unrequited love for Brian fuels the story, which he occasionally narrates in voice-over. Justin's coming out and budding relationship with Brian has unexpected effects on Brian and Michael's lives much to Michael's dismay as Justin is only 17 years old. Justin confides in his straight high-school friend Daphne, while struggling to deal with homophobic classmates and his dismayed, divorcing parents, Craig and Jennifer. Later in the second season Justin and Michael co-create the sexually explicit underground comic Rage, featuring a "Gay Crusader" superhero based on Brian. Brian's son Gus, being raised by Lindsay and Melanie, becomes the focus of several episodes as issues of parental rights come to the fore. Ted is Melanie's accountant who once harbored a longstanding crush on Michael. He and Emmett begin as best friends, but briefly become lovers later in the series. Their relationship ends as Ted, unemployed and with a criminal record earned from running a legitimate porn website that was targeted by a Chief of Police running for Mayor, becomes addicted to crystal meth. In the fourth season, Brian, who has lost his job by assisting Justin in opposing an anti-gay political client, starts his own agency. Michael marries Ben Bruckner, an HIV-positive college professor, and the couple adopts a teenage son, James "Hunter" Montgomery, who is also HIV-positive as a result of his experiences as a young hustler. Ted's affair with a handsome crystal meth addict, Blake Wyzecki, sets the pattern for Ted's later tragic but ultimately redeeming experiences with drug addiction. Melanie and Lindsay's relationship, while on the surface seeming more of a "stable" relationship, is actually quite tumultuous and controversial. Each cheats on the other at various points in the series; both tackle on a threesome shortly after they marry and become separated for much of the 4th and 5th seasons. Melanie is impregnated by Michael (through artificial insemination, as Lindsay was) in the third season, so that best friends Brian and Michael become co-fathers to Lindsay and Melanie's children. Melanie gives birth to a girl, Jenny Rebecca, over whom Melanie, Lindsay, and Michael have a brief legal custody battle following the women's transitory break-up. Brian's new advertising agency, Kinnetik, becomes highly successful both through a combination of Brian's customer loyalty and his edgier advertising. As a result of this, Brian is able to purchase Club Babylon from its bankrupt owner. In the fifth and final season the boys have become men, and the series, perhaps more comfortable in its role in gay entertainment, tackles political issues head-on and with much more fervor. A political campaign called "Proposition 14" is depicted during much of the final season as a looming threat to the main characters. This proposition, like so many real-life recent legislative moves that have affected many U.S. states, threatens to outlaw same-sex marriage, adoption and other family civil rights. The many ways in which such a proposition would affect the characters are depicted through nearly every episode. Debbie, Justin, Jennifer, Daphne, Emmett, Ted, Michael, Ben, Lindsay, Melanie and the children are depicted standing up and fighting against this proposition both by active canvassing, political contributions and other democratic processes, but are met with staunch opposition, discrimination, outright hatred and political setbacks. The show climaxes near the end of the series when a benefit to support opposition to Proposition 14 hosted at Brian's club Babylon (after repeated relocations of the benefit, due to discrimination) is attacked by a bomb that initially kills 4, and eventually another 3 and injures 67. This horrible event sets the bittersweet tone for the final three episodes, in which Brian, frightened by this third possible loss of Justin, finally declares his love for him. The two even plan to marry, but Justin's artistic abilities get noticed by a New York art critic and the two decide, for the time being at least, in favor of a more realistic approach to a stormy relationship that nevertheless works for their characters. Melanie and Lindsay, realizing they have more in common than they don't, resume their relationship but relocate to Canada to "raise [their children] in an environment where they will not be called names, singled out for discrimination, or ever have to fear for their life." Emmett becomes a Queer-Eye type TV presenter but is later fired when professional football player Drew Boyd kisses him on the news to signify his coming out. Ted confronts his midlife crisis head-on and finally reunites with Blake. Hunter returns and the Novotny-Bruckner family perseveres. The series came full circle with the final scenes staged in the restored Babylon nightclub. In the final scene, Brian dances to Heather Small's "Proud," a song that accompanied a pivotal scene between Brian and Michael in the very first episode of the series. It ends with a final narration by Michael:
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The American version of Queer as Folk quickly became the number one show on the Showtime roster. The network's initial marketing of the show was primarily targeted at gay male (and to some extent, lesbian) audiences, yet a sizeable segment of the viewership turned out to be heterosexual women. Groundbreaking scenes abounded in Queer as Folk, beginning with the first episode, containing the first simulated sex scene between two men shown on American television (including mutual masturbation, anal sex, and rimming), albeit more tame than the scene it was based on in the UK version. Despite the frank portrayals of drug use and casual sex in the gay club scene, the expected conservative uproar never materialized. Initially, most of the actors kept their real-life sexual orientations ambiguous in the press so as not to detract from their characters, causing much speculation among the viewing audience. citation needed Since that time, Randy Harrison, Peter Paige, Robert Gant and Jack Wetherall have stated that they are gay, Thea Gill has stated she is bisexual, [1] and the rest of the cast have stated they are straight (i.e., Gale Harold, Scott Lowell, Michelle Clunie, and Hal Sparks) but have for the most part avoided public discussion of their orientation. Controversial storylines which have been explored in Queer as Folk have included the following: coming out, same-sex marriage, ex-gay ministries, recreational drug use and abuse ( cocaine, methamphetamine, ecstasy, GHB, ketamine, cannabis); gay adoption, artificial insemination; vigilantism; gay-bashing; safe sex, HIV-positive status, underage prostitution; actively gay Catholic priests; discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation, the internet pornography industry, and bug chasers (HIV-negative individuals who actively seek to become HIV-positive). The series was set in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which it depicted with a good deal of creative license. Pittsburgh was chosen as the closest parallel to the UK series' industrial setting of Manchester, England. However, since Pittsburgh does not have a large gay district like San Francisco or New York, almost all of the Liberty Avenue scenes were filmed in and around the Church and Wellesley area of Toronto which is that city's gay village. In fact, not a single shot of the real Liberty Avenue was ever used in the series. Toronto was chosen as the production center of the series because of its lower cost of production and established mature television and film industry. And, as it happens, Toronto's gay village had the look the producers needed to bring their vision of Liberty Avenue alive. Woody's, the central bar in this fantasy Pittsburgh, is the name of a leading gay bar in Toronto, whose real exterior was shot with only minor disguise. (In a Season 4 episode in which several characters travelled to Toronto, the real Woody's was dubbed "Moosie's".) Babylon was also the name of a real gay bar in Toronto, which was open during the show's run but subsequently closed, although the real establishment was a sitdown martini bar; [2] the dance club scenes in the series were actually filmed at a different Toronto nightclub, Fly. [3] The series, at times, made humorous reference to its image in the gay community. A few episodes featured the show-within-a-show Gay as Blazes, a dull, politically correct drama which Brian particularly disagreed with, and which was eventually cancelled. |
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Title should be moved to Queer as Folk (2000 TV series) as there will soon be two American versions of the show. One released in 2000 and the other in 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannybaby1234 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Discussion about the title of this article and its recent change can be found at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (acronyms)#Changing article titles from XXXXX (US) to XXXXX (United States). Feel free to contribute. -- hike395 16:31, 27 February 2005 (UTC)
Why do people CONTINUE to revert the sentence about the OPENING AND CLOSING STATEMENT that used to air on Queer As Folk before and after the show that stated "While Queer as Folk depicts the lives of a group of gay friends, it does not represent the gay community". I'm thinking some of you are reverting that statement because you own the DVDs. The fact does remain however, that this statement did open and close the show for the first three seasons and then was omitted in the last two. Please justify your revert thanks -- Julien Deveraux 00:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
I put that box there.. I a lot of other TV shows have them.. It needs to be edited, I thought an image would make the page more engaging... but feel free to delete it... - SweetSurrender — Preceding unsigned comment added by SweetSurrender ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello:
A great deal of the changes to this page have been made by myself, particularly the newer information about the production as I am a former member of the production itself and worked on the show for four of its five seasons.
On a technical note, I don't understand why the episode table is being duplicated each time I try to delete it since I intended to add to it only once. If someone knows how to delete the duplicate table, please do so...the episode table is intended to be there only once. I assure everyone here that my editing of this article is to make it more factural since I have first-hand knowledge of this series. Any "vandalism" that someone mentioned was to my own text. My only mistake I guess was not doing it with an actual account which I have now done. Thanks and please understand I only want to make the information about this show as accurate as possible.
TorontoDrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorontoDrew ( talk • contribs) 13:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Can someone please explain to me how QaF is in any way, shape, or form a teen drama?
Gothic Author — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.111.246 ( talk) 03:21, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added some additional production information to the article that somehow was deleted previously when I posted it originally anonomously. I am reposting it under my signed name. The information is accurate as I was part of the production as a background actor (extra) for the last four seasons the show was on the air. -- Drew 14:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Queer as Folk, as produced for Showtime, was a American/Canadian co-production...these are the facts to support this:
American partners: Showtime Networks Inc., CowLip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions and Warner Bros. Inc. Canadian partners: Temple Street Productions, Queer as Folk Productions Ltd. and its four successor companies
According to the information I am aware of, Showtime Network has the ownership rights and distribution rights in the U.S. and ownership rights world-wide EXCEPT for Canada. Temple Street Productions is the legal owner of the show in Canada and controller of distributions rights. Warner Bros. Inc. has the distribution rights to the series outside the U.S. and Canada.
-- Drew 22:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi there,
I am struggling to find out when/if seasons 2-5 are, or, are going to be made availble on Region 2 format. I have searched/asked all the main DVD distributors I can think of, including HMV in the UK who had the release of Season 1 US version for the UK.
I am unable to contact Showcase, as their website is not accessable from outside the US.
Any help would be much apreciated.
Regards,
Richard, UK -- 82.152.28.82 14:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Richard,
I wouldn't take this as gospel but I have heard of no plans by Showtime to release the North American (aka the U.S.) version of Queer as Folk in any format other than Region 1 NTSC. I suspect the reason is that the series, other than seasons 1 and 2, has not been widely enough released in other non-North American countries to warrant a release in other DVD formats besides Region 1 NTSC. To my knowledge, the only other English-speaking country where all five seasons of the series have been broadcast is Australia. I have heard in Britain that only some of the seasons have been shown but not all of them.
From what I know, the main priority for Showtime regarding QAF now is to get it running "off-network" which means selling the rerun broadcast rights to another cable channel the way HBO did with its Sex And The City. They claim to be negotiating with unspecified U.S. cable channels but things have been going slowly I'm sure due to the content of the series and the fact that each episode will have to be heavily edited for language and content before it can be shown on any standard U.S. cable channel.
BTW...the Showcase website WAS accessible by anyone...Showcase is the Canadian cable channel that aired the show and had a web site devoted to the series even though they were no longer broadcasting it...that website, unfortunately was taken down by Showcase at the beginning of February 2006 and is no longer available...you were probably thinking of the Showtime website in the U.S. which is in fact not accessible by anyone who has an IP address that is not an officially U.S. registered address.
Drew 18:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
There needs to be a better descrition of the characters. There's one of Bryan but it leads into a mentioning of just about all of the characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.217.6.9 ( talk) 01:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I added the rest of the "starring cast," to the box ... Peter Paige (season 1-5), Scott Lowell, (seasons 1-5) Thea Gill, (seasons 1-5) Michelle Clunie, (seasons 1-5) and Robert Gant, (seasons 2-5) because for some unknown reason they weren't included. Considering that all of these actors appeared in at least 4 or more seasons of the series, I felt they should be included too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abisel ( talk • contribs) 15:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Nearly all of the characters have their own bio page. Those without are Lindsay Peterson and Melanie Marcus.
At the start of Queer As Folk Brian is 29. By the end he is 34. This means that the whole series went for around 5 years (in the QAF universe).
-Klarth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klarth ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
"Brian Kinney: a literal sex machine" If this were true, Brian would actually be a machine... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.16.14.155 ( talk) 22:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Who played the porn star Zack O'tool? what are his other on-air appearances in other shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.111.193.9 ( talk) 15:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm referring to a reference that was removed in this article on "people of color" in favor of "non-white." If you go to the "people of color" article it says that the reason it is offensive is because of the us-vs-them attitude with the focus being whites and non-whites. If you are going to use the term non-white you might as well use the term "people of color". The phrase DOES NOT just refer to african americans, it refers to all non-caucasion peoples.-- Torourkeus 20:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Obviously, the link toward David Wellington is not the good one (director vs. writer, born in Canada vs. in Pittsburgh).
I neither know anything to say about the QAF David Wellington, nor how to make a disambiguation page, nor if it'd be very appropriate toward an empty page.
If someone could do anything about that ?
Otherwise I might come back in a week or so and create a very minimalistic page about the guy, but I really don't feel like I'm the good one for I don't heard of him before noticing this mistaking link ....
romdam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.84.98 ( talk) 13:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be very little mention of the soundtrack of the series (the music was very important to the show) or the CDs of music from the show or the "Babylon" tour which I think is going on it's 3rd or 4th year. Would be worthy of it's own section. Benjiboi 11:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted the article back to indicating that Showcase in Canada was running Queer as Folk in a 1 hour 10 minute time block by the time the series was in its last season because of so many advertisers. Someone had changed it to 90 minutes which is incorrect. I can attest to the broadcast schedule since I watched every single broadcast Showcase ever ran of the series. The extension of the series time block from 60 minutes began in the third season and varied between 65 and 70 minutes per episode with a few exceptions, one of which was the series finale which ran 75 minutes on Showcase with commercials. At no time did Showcase ever broadcast the series over a 90 minute time block during its entire 5 season run with the sole exception of the pilot episode which (in it's Canadian version) ran 2 1/2 hours with commercials and which was broadcast only once. When the pilot was re-aired later in 2001, it was split into three episodes which ran in 60 minute time blocks. Drew 04:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The final scene was more like a fantasy than reality. Where were their indications that it was going to be re-built? Joemaza 00:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with Melsaran's edit. What is controversial or potentially libelous about the actors' sexual orientations? I think the series teaches us to relax about this entirely, so I will restore the valuable background info. Roman Czyborra 11:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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Sergay removed several links to fan sites, including one I posted recently and several that have been there for a long time. I asked for clarification on why, and was directed to a post that said that social networking sites such as MySpace "and fan sites" were generally not liked per WP:LINKSTOAVOID:
"Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace or Fan sites), discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups) or USENET."
However, none of the removed links were social networking sites. They were sites built by fans, but containing articles, links to other sites, and information and discussion about the show. These external links don't seem to fall into the category of a social networking fan site, and bear no relationship to sites like MySpace, with which some types of "fan sites" are classed in the Wikipedia guideline cited.
I believe that informational sites maintained by fans are not what were intended by the guideline against "fan sites," because if they were, this guideline wouldn't have been listed under a general prohibition against "social networking" sites.
I think the removed links should be restored for this reason, and that informational fan-authored websites that provide relevant content are encyclopedic. Happier bunny ( talk) 07:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
"Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority."
So I notice this morning that an anon IP removed Houston from the list of cities with a gay area of the city. Since I've put this page on my watchlist, I've seen many changes this particular sentence adding and deleting names of towns. There appears to never be any particular reason to add or delete a town. I've never reverted or changed the section because I don't think I am fit to solely determine what cities belong on this list.
So, I'm wondering if there should be a discussion on what cities belong on this list so that that sentence can stay stable. (IOW, any edits made to the list following the discussion can be reverted back to the agreed upon list.) We can think of this as a Request for Discussion without making it an official RfD.
My Thoughts:
I'm interested to hear what others believe. So, please chime in with your thoughts. -- TreyGeek ( talk) 12:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Since when and why people started editing the discussion as well and deleting the comments of others? I wrote my fantasy of QAF in 2009 and some SOB has deleted that. Can I ask why? Realton ( talk) 18:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a suggestion if
gay/homosexual could be taken out of the first sentence, it looks excessive. (ex: The series follows the lives of five gay men living in
Pittsburgh). There was
recently a dispute going on with an IP and a few other users between gay/homosexual.
Versus22
talk 17:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that it's weird that Brian's assistant at his work has an bio but there isn't one for George, Leda, or Chris Hobbs? Anyone else think we should fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.170.113 ( talk) 19:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I've removed this section and relocated other unsourced material here. The article has been tagged for needing sourcing for over 2 years and there's no reason to use a rather cruft'y table for the DVD releases when prose would suffice. The DVD release table was not playing nicely with the collapse template, so I've linked to the original material. Doniago ( talk) 13:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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The statement that the internal shots were done in Toronto is a mis-statement. Anyone who knows the city at all will recognize that its outdoors also feature largely in the series, especially the venues of Church Street and the Annex. 24.85.238.166 ( talk) 19:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Nooc1
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Filming and production
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==Filming and production==
Queer as Folk was produced by Cowlip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions and Temple Street Productions in association with Channel 4 Television Corporation (the co-owner of the original UK series) and Showcase. Warner Bros. Television holds the international distribution rights to the series outside the US and Canada (where Showtime Entertainment/ CBS Television Distribution owns the rights). The show's original theme song, "Spunk", was written and performed by Greek Buck and was used during seasons one through three. When the main title sequence for the show was changed for seasons four and five, the theme song was changed to "Cue the Pulse to Begin" performed by Burnside Project. However, as a tip-of-the-hat to Greek Buck, the count-in from "Spunk" was left in the new opening sequence before "Cue the Pulse to Begin" was played. All five seasons were filmed in wide-screen HDTV; however, only seasons 4 and 5 were regularly broadcast in HDTV in both the U.S. and Canada. In the U.S., Showtime did run Seasons 1, 2 and 3 in HDTV on Tuesday nights as a special repeat of an episode's full-screen broadcast the previous Sunday. These HDTV broadcasts from the first three seasons were not broadcast by Showcase in Canada. The episodes that appear in the commercially released DVD packages were taken from the HDTV versions. Keeping up with the technology, Queer as Folk's Season 5 was one of the first series to be recorded using the relatively new digital video process rather than being made exclusively on film. The raw digital video was combined with some scenes that were filmed into a finished episode and then color corrected using a computer process to make the entire episode appear to be filmed. Throughout all five seasons, the series was filmed primarily at Dufferin Gate Studios in Etobicoke, Ontario (a southwestern borough of Toronto). Exterior scenes however were shot in Pittsburgh. Many of Season 3's non-location scenes of Babylon, Woody's and Liberty Diner were filmed at Greystone Studios in Mississauga (the city adjacent to Toronto's western border). These same scenes for seasons 4 and 5 were filmed at the now-former Dufferin Gate Studios "B Studio" in Mississauga about 10–15 minutes from Dufferin Gate's home in Etobicoke. (This studio is now used by Shaftesbury Films as the home base for several of its projects, including the series The Listener). The series finale of Queer as Folk originally included additional scenes (some new and some extended from their final presentation) that put the episode's running time to just under 64 minutes. This extra material was deleted from the episode before it was broadcast presumably because Showtime didn't want the program to run longer than 60 minutes. The final edit of the episode is slightly over 58 minutes. The deleted scenes are presented in the Queer as Folk Season 5 DVD package. The most notable deletion was a scene near the end of the episode that pays homage to the series' first episode. In the deleted scene, a young blond-haired gay teen who looks like Justin is seen on Liberty Avenue, obviously for his first time, and as Justin did in the first episode, steps across Liberty Avenue and splashes through a puddle. This was meant to signify that the series had come full circle. It was ultimately deleted because the idea of "full circle" was already present in the final Michael-Brian scene (which preceded the deleted scene) and the use of the remix of "Proud" as the series' closing theme. |
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Queer as Folk is a North American television series that was produced for
Showtime Entertainment and
Showcase by
Cowlip Productions, Tony Jonas Productions, and
Temple Street Productions in association with
Channel 4 Television. It was developed and written by
Ron Cowen and
Daniel Lipman (
Sisters,
An Early Frost), who were the showrunners, and also the executive producers along with Tony Jonas, former President of
Warner Bros. Television.
Based on the British series created by Russell T Davies, Queer as Folk was the first hour-long drama on American television to portray the lives of gay men and women. Although it was set in Pittsburgh, PA, interior scenes were actually shot in Toronto and employed various Canadian directors known for their independent film work (including Bruce McDonald, David Wellington, Kelly Makin, John Greyson, Jeremy Podeswa and Michael DeCarlo) as well as Australian director Russell Mulcahy ( Highlander) who directed the pilot episode. Additional writers in the later seasons included Michael MacLennan, Efrem Seeger, Brad Fraser, Del Shores, and Shawn Postoff. |
Show premise
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==Show premise==
The series follows the lives of five gay men living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Brian, Justin, Michael, Emmett, and Ted; a lesbian couple, Lindsay and Melanie; and Michael's mother Debbie and his uncle Vic. Another main character, Ben, was added in the second season. |
Show history
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==Show history==
The show drew strong ratings for both Showtime and Canada's Showcase. In fact, in Canada, the series had such high ratings that by the end of the fifth season Showcase chose to air the show in hour-and-ten-minute timeblocks to accommodate all the ads without cutting any scenes. This was not a problem for Showtime, since that service is commercial-free and no ads were ever broadcast during a Queer as Folk telecast. The series ran for five seasons (2000 to 2005 on Showtime and 2001 to 2005 on Showcase). Canada's Showcase, which was making a great deal of money from the advertising demand, did briefly consider producing a sixth season, but as Showtime owned much of the rights to the series and funded much of the budget, Showcase decided against it. Another U.S. cable channel owned by Viacom, Logo, began broadcasting edited, commercially sponsored episodes of Queer as Folk on September 21, 2006. As of January 9, 2008, Showcase began offering the Canadian version of the Queer as Folk episodes on their website. These Canadian versions differ from the Showtime and DVD versions in that they have breaks within the episodes (where commercials would have been inserted) and make references to "Showcase" and "Temple Street Productions presents" instead of "Showtime presents". Unlike the Season 1 DVDs, episodes 101 and 102 are presented separately and episode 102 is the rare extended version of the episode, created for broadcast during reruns of the first season and not seen since 2002. The first seven episodes were posted on January 9 and one additional episode was posted each week after. |
Character profiles
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==Character profiles==
Main characters
Secondary characters
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Plot
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==Plot==
The first episode finds the four friends ending a night at Babylon, a popular gay club. Brian picks up and has sex with Justin, who falls in love with him and eventually becomes more than a one-night-stand. Brian also becomes a father that night, bearing a son with Lindsay through artificial insemination. Michael's seemingly unrequited love for Brian fuels the story, which he occasionally narrates in voice-over. Justin's coming out and budding relationship with Brian has unexpected effects on Brian and Michael's lives much to Michael's dismay as Justin is only 17 years old. Justin confides in his straight high-school friend Daphne, while struggling to deal with homophobic classmates and his dismayed, divorcing parents, Craig and Jennifer. Later in the second season Justin and Michael co-create the sexually explicit underground comic Rage, featuring a "Gay Crusader" superhero based on Brian. Brian's son Gus, being raised by Lindsay and Melanie, becomes the focus of several episodes as issues of parental rights come to the fore. Ted is Melanie's accountant who once harbored a longstanding crush on Michael. He and Emmett begin as best friends, but briefly become lovers later in the series. Their relationship ends as Ted, unemployed and with a criminal record earned from running a legitimate porn website that was targeted by a Chief of Police running for Mayor, becomes addicted to crystal meth. In the fourth season, Brian, who has lost his job by assisting Justin in opposing an anti-gay political client, starts his own agency. Michael marries Ben Bruckner, an HIV-positive college professor, and the couple adopts a teenage son, James "Hunter" Montgomery, who is also HIV-positive as a result of his experiences as a young hustler. Ted's affair with a handsome crystal meth addict, Blake Wyzecki, sets the pattern for Ted's later tragic but ultimately redeeming experiences with drug addiction. Melanie and Lindsay's relationship, while on the surface seeming more of a "stable" relationship, is actually quite tumultuous and controversial. Each cheats on the other at various points in the series; both tackle on a threesome shortly after they marry and become separated for much of the 4th and 5th seasons. Melanie is impregnated by Michael (through artificial insemination, as Lindsay was) in the third season, so that best friends Brian and Michael become co-fathers to Lindsay and Melanie's children. Melanie gives birth to a girl, Jenny Rebecca, over whom Melanie, Lindsay, and Michael have a brief legal custody battle following the women's transitory break-up. Brian's new advertising agency, Kinnetik, becomes highly successful both through a combination of Brian's customer loyalty and his edgier advertising. As a result of this, Brian is able to purchase Club Babylon from its bankrupt owner. In the fifth and final season the boys have become men, and the series, perhaps more comfortable in its role in gay entertainment, tackles political issues head-on and with much more fervor. A political campaign called "Proposition 14" is depicted during much of the final season as a looming threat to the main characters. This proposition, like so many real-life recent legislative moves that have affected many U.S. states, threatens to outlaw same-sex marriage, adoption and other family civil rights. The many ways in which such a proposition would affect the characters are depicted through nearly every episode. Debbie, Justin, Jennifer, Daphne, Emmett, Ted, Michael, Ben, Lindsay, Melanie and the children are depicted standing up and fighting against this proposition both by active canvassing, political contributions and other democratic processes, but are met with staunch opposition, discrimination, outright hatred and political setbacks. The show climaxes near the end of the series when a benefit to support opposition to Proposition 14 hosted at Brian's club Babylon (after repeated relocations of the benefit, due to discrimination) is attacked by a bomb that initially kills 4, and eventually another 3 and injures 67. This horrible event sets the bittersweet tone for the final three episodes, in which Brian, frightened by this third possible loss of Justin, finally declares his love for him. The two even plan to marry, but Justin's artistic abilities get noticed by a New York art critic and the two decide, for the time being at least, in favor of a more realistic approach to a stormy relationship that nevertheless works for their characters. Melanie and Lindsay, realizing they have more in common than they don't, resume their relationship but relocate to Canada to "raise [their children] in an environment where they will not be called names, singled out for discrimination, or ever have to fear for their life." Emmett becomes a Queer-Eye type TV presenter but is later fired when professional football player Drew Boyd kisses him on the news to signify his coming out. Ted confronts his midlife crisis head-on and finally reunites with Blake. Hunter returns and the Novotny-Bruckner family perseveres. The series came full circle with the final scenes staged in the restored Babylon nightclub. In the final scene, Brian dances to Heather Small's "Proud," a song that accompanied a pivotal scene between Brian and Michael in the very first episode of the series. It ends with a final narration by Michael:
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Cultural implication
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==Cultural implications==
The American version of Queer as Folk quickly became the number one show on the Showtime roster. The network's initial marketing of the show was primarily targeted at gay male (and to some extent, lesbian) audiences, yet a sizeable segment of the viewership turned out to be heterosexual women. Groundbreaking scenes abounded in Queer as Folk, beginning with the first episode, containing the first simulated sex scene between two men shown on American television (including mutual masturbation, anal sex, and rimming), albeit more tame than the scene it was based on in the UK version. Despite the frank portrayals of drug use and casual sex in the gay club scene, the expected conservative uproar never materialized. Initially, most of the actors kept their real-life sexual orientations ambiguous in the press so as not to detract from their characters, causing much speculation among the viewing audience. citation needed Since that time, Randy Harrison, Peter Paige, Robert Gant and Jack Wetherall have stated that they are gay, Thea Gill has stated she is bisexual, [1] and the rest of the cast have stated they are straight (i.e., Gale Harold, Scott Lowell, Michelle Clunie, and Hal Sparks) but have for the most part avoided public discussion of their orientation. Controversial storylines which have been explored in Queer as Folk have included the following: coming out, same-sex marriage, ex-gay ministries, recreational drug use and abuse ( cocaine, methamphetamine, ecstasy, GHB, ketamine, cannabis); gay adoption, artificial insemination; vigilantism; gay-bashing; safe sex, HIV-positive status, underage prostitution; actively gay Catholic priests; discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation, the internet pornography industry, and bug chasers (HIV-negative individuals who actively seek to become HIV-positive). The series was set in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which it depicted with a good deal of creative license. Pittsburgh was chosen as the closest parallel to the UK series' industrial setting of Manchester, England. However, since Pittsburgh does not have a large gay district like San Francisco or New York, almost all of the Liberty Avenue scenes were filmed in and around the Church and Wellesley area of Toronto which is that city's gay village. In fact, not a single shot of the real Liberty Avenue was ever used in the series. Toronto was chosen as the production center of the series because of its lower cost of production and established mature television and film industry. And, as it happens, Toronto's gay village had the look the producers needed to bring their vision of Liberty Avenue alive. Woody's, the central bar in this fantasy Pittsburgh, is the name of a leading gay bar in Toronto, whose real exterior was shot with only minor disguise. (In a Season 4 episode in which several characters travelled to Toronto, the real Woody's was dubbed "Moosie's".) Babylon was also the name of a real gay bar in Toronto, which was open during the show's run but subsequently closed, although the real establishment was a sitdown martini bar; [2] the dance club scenes in the series were actually filmed at a different Toronto nightclub, Fly. [3] The series, at times, made humorous reference to its image in the gay community. A few episodes featured the show-within-a-show Gay as Blazes, a dull, politically correct drama which Brian particularly disagreed with, and which was eventually cancelled. |
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Queer as Folk (2000 TV series) → Queer as Folk (Showtime TV series) – Or Queer as Folk (North American TV series) or Queer as Folk (American TV series). The year itself is a little more confusing as Queer as Folk (UK TV series) was released a year earlier. Either a channel name or nationality is clearer than the year itself. I would go for (Canadian TV series), but the setting of the Showtime version was San Francisco while the filming took place in Toronto. This leaves me three alternatives instead. George Ho ( talk) 19:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I've separated that part of the article into its own section, and completely rewritten it, as it contained a lot of misinformation, some of which were cleared up as the years went by. Some of the problems fixed:
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Title should be moved to Queer as Folk (2000 TV series) as there will soon be two American versions of the show. One released in 2000 and the other in 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannybaby1234 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)