This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Quebec article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives:
Index,
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9Auto-archiving period: 90 days
![]() |
![]() | This article is written in Canadian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, centre, travelled, realize, analyze) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
![]() | Quebec was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||
|
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||
|
![]() |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
![]() |
|
![]() | This article contains a translation of Québec from fr.wikipedia. ( 1033127816 et seq.) |
Intro paragraph states Quebec is the largest province by area, yet details show it as 15.4% of Canada's area - 2nd to Nunavut's 20%. 73.209.120.91 ( talk) 15:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
There's been a bit of an exchange between @ Safyrr: and @ Amaaretz: on this page, with deletions and restorations and questions about whether a statement is properly sourced. I would like to comment on it, as I think there is a misunderstanding about what the cited source says.
The dispute is over this paragraph, currently in the article:
Safyrr says that this paragraph is supported by the cite at the head of the paragraph: Loyalistes, but Amaaretz disagrees.
I think that the passage which Safyrr is relying on is this one:
I do not interpret this key passage the same way that Safyrr does, avec égards. The passage does not say that the British colonists were dissatisfied with the "many rights" that the French-Canadians had. It talks about "le droit", not many "droits"; that is, it's referring to the "French law", not to "rights" of French-Canadians.
The second sentence says that the same law from the seigneurial regime, which applied to French-Canadians, also applied to the new British colonists: "le droit français s’applique aux nouveaux arrivants, de même que le régime seigneurial classique." I would translate this sentence as "the French law applied to the new arrivals, the same as the classical seigneurial régime." That's what they didn't like, the application of the seigneurial régime. They were "mécontents", "parce que ce droit laisse moins de place à l’initiative des individus." I would translate the phrase as they were dissatisfied, "because this law did not leave as much to the initiatives of individuals." Again, "ce droit", singular, means in this context "this law", i.e. the seigneurial régime. It's not a jealousy of the rights accorded to the original habitants.
Based on this analysis, I would suggest re-wording the passage in the article as follows, which I think is more consistent with the cited source than is the current wording in dispute:
How does that sound? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 03:47, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
So i'm asking the question like it's the main and official language of the province. Axtoche2002 ( talk) 15:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Quebec (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 19:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
The redirect
Lower Quebec has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 18 § Lower Quebec until a consensus is reached.
Utopes (
talk /
cont)
05:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Not spelling the name of the province "Québec", with an accent aigu, is simply erroneous. I thought Wikipedia wasn't supposed to push errors as fact? LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 22:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Quebec article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives:
Index,
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9Auto-archiving period: 90 days
![]() |
![]() | This article is written in Canadian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, centre, travelled, realize, analyze) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
![]() | Quebec was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||
|
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||
|
![]() |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
![]() |
|
![]() | This article contains a translation of Québec from fr.wikipedia. ( 1033127816 et seq.) |
Intro paragraph states Quebec is the largest province by area, yet details show it as 15.4% of Canada's area - 2nd to Nunavut's 20%. 73.209.120.91 ( talk) 15:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
There's been a bit of an exchange between @ Safyrr: and @ Amaaretz: on this page, with deletions and restorations and questions about whether a statement is properly sourced. I would like to comment on it, as I think there is a misunderstanding about what the cited source says.
The dispute is over this paragraph, currently in the article:
Safyrr says that this paragraph is supported by the cite at the head of the paragraph: Loyalistes, but Amaaretz disagrees.
I think that the passage which Safyrr is relying on is this one:
I do not interpret this key passage the same way that Safyrr does, avec égards. The passage does not say that the British colonists were dissatisfied with the "many rights" that the French-Canadians had. It talks about "le droit", not many "droits"; that is, it's referring to the "French law", not to "rights" of French-Canadians.
The second sentence says that the same law from the seigneurial regime, which applied to French-Canadians, also applied to the new British colonists: "le droit français s’applique aux nouveaux arrivants, de même que le régime seigneurial classique." I would translate this sentence as "the French law applied to the new arrivals, the same as the classical seigneurial régime." That's what they didn't like, the application of the seigneurial régime. They were "mécontents", "parce que ce droit laisse moins de place à l’initiative des individus." I would translate the phrase as they were dissatisfied, "because this law did not leave as much to the initiatives of individuals." Again, "ce droit", singular, means in this context "this law", i.e. the seigneurial régime. It's not a jealousy of the rights accorded to the original habitants.
Based on this analysis, I would suggest re-wording the passage in the article as follows, which I think is more consistent with the cited source than is the current wording in dispute:
How does that sound? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz ( talk) 03:47, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
So i'm asking the question like it's the main and official language of the province. Axtoche2002 ( talk) 15:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Quebec (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 19:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
The redirect
Lower Quebec has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 18 § Lower Quebec until a consensus is reached.
Utopes (
talk /
cont)
05:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Not spelling the name of the province "Québec", with an accent aigu, is simply erroneous. I thought Wikipedia wasn't supposed to push errors as fact? LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 22:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)