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This page desperately needs a chemical structure diagram... Ed Sanville 05:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
It also needs to dump the extraneous information about the Krebs cycle and just provide the link. Crick22 08:41, 14 October 2005 (MST)
I say we merge these beasts, hopefully increasing the length and depth of the product along the way. Someone get a molecular sketch in, too. mastodon 22:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't wish to "undo" your edit without further discussion. There is obviously no consensus, although the merge action was arguably done without consensus as well.-- Chibibrain ( talk) 19:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
By definition a theory of evolution cannot be about origin. Evolution is about change in that what already exists. (212.187.69.100)
Image is wrong because it shows pyruvic acid, not pyruvate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.21.28 ( talk) 15:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
In the biochemistry section with all of the reactions, it does label pyruvic acid as pyruvate. All of the images show CH3COCOOH rather than CH3COCOO-. Annie.barber ( talk) 05:22, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
THis is slightly related. The pyruvate ion image is incorrect. It doesn't even have the correct numbers of each atom
Pyruvate deserves its own article, instead of a redirect. Given its importance in biology, it is likely what most people mean when they mention pyruvate. I would think most articles in a biochemistry or medical context are actually linking to pyruvate not pyruvic acid. Unfortunately they have been redirected here.
If the proton is ignored, pyruvate is likely by far the more common name. However, I don't think this is an issue of a single subject with two circulating names. In terms of chemistry, the acid and its conjugate base are not the same thing. The difference is not academic. Just try dipping a pH meter in a solution of hydrogen chloride versus a solution of table salt.
Some material actually ignores the important difference, because it pertains to pyruvate but not pyruvic acid. As a result, I think there should be an article on pyruvate. No more redirection. Some of the material here needs to be moved to pyruvate article, because they have to do with the conjugate base, which is not the same as the acid, as any organic chemist would tell you (citation needed?).-- Chibibrain ( talk) 18:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Pyruvic acid/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Rated "high" because "pyruvate" redirects here and is highschool/SAT biology content. - tameeria 02:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 02:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 03:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Basic information to add to this article: which vegetables contain high levels of pyruvic acid. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 01:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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This page desperately needs a chemical structure diagram... Ed Sanville 05:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
It also needs to dump the extraneous information about the Krebs cycle and just provide the link. Crick22 08:41, 14 October 2005 (MST)
I say we merge these beasts, hopefully increasing the length and depth of the product along the way. Someone get a molecular sketch in, too. mastodon 22:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't wish to "undo" your edit without further discussion. There is obviously no consensus, although the merge action was arguably done without consensus as well.-- Chibibrain ( talk) 19:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
By definition a theory of evolution cannot be about origin. Evolution is about change in that what already exists. (212.187.69.100)
Image is wrong because it shows pyruvic acid, not pyruvate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.21.28 ( talk) 15:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
In the biochemistry section with all of the reactions, it does label pyruvic acid as pyruvate. All of the images show CH3COCOOH rather than CH3COCOO-. Annie.barber ( talk) 05:22, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
THis is slightly related. The pyruvate ion image is incorrect. It doesn't even have the correct numbers of each atom
Pyruvate deserves its own article, instead of a redirect. Given its importance in biology, it is likely what most people mean when they mention pyruvate. I would think most articles in a biochemistry or medical context are actually linking to pyruvate not pyruvic acid. Unfortunately they have been redirected here.
If the proton is ignored, pyruvate is likely by far the more common name. However, I don't think this is an issue of a single subject with two circulating names. In terms of chemistry, the acid and its conjugate base are not the same thing. The difference is not academic. Just try dipping a pH meter in a solution of hydrogen chloride versus a solution of table salt.
Some material actually ignores the important difference, because it pertains to pyruvate but not pyruvic acid. As a result, I think there should be an article on pyruvate. No more redirection. Some of the material here needs to be moved to pyruvate article, because they have to do with the conjugate base, which is not the same as the acid, as any organic chemist would tell you (citation needed?).-- Chibibrain ( talk) 18:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Pyruvic acid/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Rated "high" because "pyruvate" redirects here and is highschool/SAT biology content. - tameeria 02:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 02:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 03:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Basic information to add to this article: which vegetables contain high levels of pyruvic acid. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 01:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)