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Sacred Jewish Inch? If this isn't a joke, the article really needs more information... 81.232.72.53 01:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
This looks to me like balderdash, but maybe it's not. I couldn't find any useful information on the internets, but it is mentioned: http://library.thinkquest.org/C0118421/py2.html --Smajie
It does sound like a joke... it made me chuckle anyway. (I had my sacred inch removed too, and I'm not even jewish!) Anyway, the figure 1/25 of a cubit is not mentioned at all in the cubit article. NB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit
Trivia for the day... 1 inch = 254 000 000 Å
--JAMES
You are all quite right to be suspicious. I hope my new edits clarify the situation; feel free to ask for more information. Also, I'm moving this to "Pyramid inch" since that is by far the most common name used for it. One thing I did not determine is exactly where the value 1.00106 comes from; probably it is a back-calculation designed to make some approximate numerical coincidence into an exact coincidence. McKay 10:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
The genesis of the 'pyramid inch' or (?) Sacred Jewish Inch seems to have resulted from an approach that attempted to conform the sum of the base sides of the pyramid to equal the number of days in a calendar year (365.2422). It reminds me of a person trying to fit size 10 feet into a pair of size eight shoes. Any criticism that the actual measurements fall short of a full calendar year (as analyzed) may be faulty because of a presumption that the length of a year (in days) is a constant. There is a contemporary theory called "The Orbital Variance Theory" [1] that posits that the actual length of a year varies (over the eons) by as much as 2.5 days on either side of the mean year. The variation in the Earth's orbit causes the Earth's distance from the Sun to vary over geologic time periods and explains the climate fluctualtions that vary from Ice Ages to global tropical conditions (Global Warming). If the Orbital Variance Theory is true then the pyramid measurements (base sides) are in actual British Imperial Inches. Additionally, some criticism of Flinder Pietrie's work (a masterwork) indicates that a portion of the base of the Great Pyramid was buried under sand and, perhaps, Pietrie's measurements of the base may have been slightly smaller than what they actually are (speculative). User:John Charles Webb 5 May 2007
K) Wasn't there a limestone sheath covering the pyramid? As this has disappeared (due to erosion, Napoleon's cannon, etc.), perhaps that's what Greaves, et al, measured. 71.22.155.114 ( talk) 14:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the revert (May 13 07) from: (Quote) This "also found numerous mathematical correspondences between the measurements of the pyramids and the geometry of the earth and the solar system" (end quote) to this (Quote) "also found numerous apparent coincidences between the measurements of the pyramids and the geometry of the earth and the solar system". (end quote) This revert is POV (point of view). Argument - Many of the mathematical correspondences were also ratios and operate independent of whatever measurement system is used. Please see, http://www.templeofsolomon.org/Pyramids/pyramid_symbolism.htm for a truncated list of actual mathematical associations between the pyramid and astronomical and geologic data, and consider correcting the language in the main article. To call these clear associations "coincidences" is POV. The mathematical relationships (correspondences) are actual and apparent and go way beyond the discussion of inches in the main article. Thank you User:John Charles Webb 5 May 2007
I don't have the details, but I remember hearing several shortwave broadcasts by Dr. Gene Scott where he mentioned the "Pyramid Inch". His premise was that the internal structure of the pyramids was designed to function as a prophecy; that a room or other structural element appearing at a particular distance along the main corridor corresponded to a significant even occurring at a particular point in time. Pretty outlandish IMO, but it might be worth including in this article, as it represents a recent revival (of sorts) of interest in the Pyramid Inch. Skyraider ( talk) 14:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The conversion to metric is done at the current value of 2.54 cm / imperial inch.
Should it not be done at the then-current value of 2.5399977, to give 2.542690098 cm ?
Thanks. 165.73.112.52 ( talk) 09:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Measurement Start‑class ( defunct) | |||||||
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Sacred Jewish Inch? If this isn't a joke, the article really needs more information... 81.232.72.53 01:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
This looks to me like balderdash, but maybe it's not. I couldn't find any useful information on the internets, but it is mentioned: http://library.thinkquest.org/C0118421/py2.html --Smajie
It does sound like a joke... it made me chuckle anyway. (I had my sacred inch removed too, and I'm not even jewish!) Anyway, the figure 1/25 of a cubit is not mentioned at all in the cubit article. NB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit
Trivia for the day... 1 inch = 254 000 000 Å
--JAMES
You are all quite right to be suspicious. I hope my new edits clarify the situation; feel free to ask for more information. Also, I'm moving this to "Pyramid inch" since that is by far the most common name used for it. One thing I did not determine is exactly where the value 1.00106 comes from; probably it is a back-calculation designed to make some approximate numerical coincidence into an exact coincidence. McKay 10:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
The genesis of the 'pyramid inch' or (?) Sacred Jewish Inch seems to have resulted from an approach that attempted to conform the sum of the base sides of the pyramid to equal the number of days in a calendar year (365.2422). It reminds me of a person trying to fit size 10 feet into a pair of size eight shoes. Any criticism that the actual measurements fall short of a full calendar year (as analyzed) may be faulty because of a presumption that the length of a year (in days) is a constant. There is a contemporary theory called "The Orbital Variance Theory" [1] that posits that the actual length of a year varies (over the eons) by as much as 2.5 days on either side of the mean year. The variation in the Earth's orbit causes the Earth's distance from the Sun to vary over geologic time periods and explains the climate fluctualtions that vary from Ice Ages to global tropical conditions (Global Warming). If the Orbital Variance Theory is true then the pyramid measurements (base sides) are in actual British Imperial Inches. Additionally, some criticism of Flinder Pietrie's work (a masterwork) indicates that a portion of the base of the Great Pyramid was buried under sand and, perhaps, Pietrie's measurements of the base may have been slightly smaller than what they actually are (speculative). User:John Charles Webb 5 May 2007
K) Wasn't there a limestone sheath covering the pyramid? As this has disappeared (due to erosion, Napoleon's cannon, etc.), perhaps that's what Greaves, et al, measured. 71.22.155.114 ( talk) 14:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the revert (May 13 07) from: (Quote) This "also found numerous mathematical correspondences between the measurements of the pyramids and the geometry of the earth and the solar system" (end quote) to this (Quote) "also found numerous apparent coincidences between the measurements of the pyramids and the geometry of the earth and the solar system". (end quote) This revert is POV (point of view). Argument - Many of the mathematical correspondences were also ratios and operate independent of whatever measurement system is used. Please see, http://www.templeofsolomon.org/Pyramids/pyramid_symbolism.htm for a truncated list of actual mathematical associations between the pyramid and astronomical and geologic data, and consider correcting the language in the main article. To call these clear associations "coincidences" is POV. The mathematical relationships (correspondences) are actual and apparent and go way beyond the discussion of inches in the main article. Thank you User:John Charles Webb 5 May 2007
I don't have the details, but I remember hearing several shortwave broadcasts by Dr. Gene Scott where he mentioned the "Pyramid Inch". His premise was that the internal structure of the pyramids was designed to function as a prophecy; that a room or other structural element appearing at a particular distance along the main corridor corresponded to a significant even occurring at a particular point in time. Pretty outlandish IMO, but it might be worth including in this article, as it represents a recent revival (of sorts) of interest in the Pyramid Inch. Skyraider ( talk) 14:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The conversion to metric is done at the current value of 2.54 cm / imperial inch.
Should it not be done at the then-current value of 2.5399977, to give 2.542690098 cm ?
Thanks. 165.73.112.52 ( talk) 09:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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