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I believe that the store referred to in the link at lindsayfincher.com as the Paradise Department Store is not in fact Pyongyang Department Store No. 1 (the enormous building just off Kim Il Sun Square), but rather the Rakwong Department Store as discussed here:
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00100&num=6560.
Robertissimo (
talk) 07:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)reply
Potemkin store
It seems it’s been alleged on multiple occasions that the store doesn’t actually sell anything [much] to North Koreans, only foreign tourists and pretend shoppers during official tours. See
Frontline or
this excerpt from a 1991 book. —
Wulf (
talk) 07:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)reply
User:WulfTheSaxon, from what I understand, the store serves as a source of propaganda (for tourists etc.) but does sell things to the country's elite. The store nonetheless exists and is a popular site along the tourist trail. As for the POV tag, I'm at a loss. What does this have to do with the neutrality of the article?
Coinmanj (
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The article can’t really be NPOV without mentioning the propaganda aspect, especially since that’s largely what it’s known for outside of North Korea. —
Wulf (
talk) 18:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)reply
Well if you can find a source that says the store is used for propaganda then by all means either add it or post it here & I'll add it. I am painfully aware of the propaganda coming from North Korea but in all honesty, there isn't a single country or city that uses official tours that doesn't show their "best" and ignores the worst.
Coinmanj (
talk) 23:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)reply
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I believe that the store referred to in the link at lindsayfincher.com as the Paradise Department Store is not in fact Pyongyang Department Store No. 1 (the enormous building just off Kim Il Sun Square), but rather the Rakwong Department Store as discussed here:
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00100&num=6560.
Robertissimo (
talk) 07:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)reply
Potemkin store
It seems it’s been alleged on multiple occasions that the store doesn’t actually sell anything [much] to North Koreans, only foreign tourists and pretend shoppers during official tours. See
Frontline or
this excerpt from a 1991 book. —
Wulf (
talk) 07:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)reply
User:WulfTheSaxon, from what I understand, the store serves as a source of propaganda (for tourists etc.) but does sell things to the country's elite. The store nonetheless exists and is a popular site along the tourist trail. As for the POV tag, I'm at a loss. What does this have to do with the neutrality of the article?
Coinmanj (
talk) 23:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)reply
The article can’t really be NPOV without mentioning the propaganda aspect, especially since that’s largely what it’s known for outside of North Korea. —
Wulf (
talk) 18:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)reply
Well if you can find a source that says the store is used for propaganda then by all means either add it or post it here & I'll add it. I am painfully aware of the propaganda coming from North Korea but in all honesty, there isn't a single country or city that uses official tours that doesn't show their "best" and ignores the worst.
Coinmanj (
talk) 23:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)reply