'Syrup' is slang for dextromethorphan (DXM) -- specifically DXM-containing cough syrups -- and has been for decades. That is to say, long before this disturbing new trend of consuming opiate-containing cough syrups mixed with alcohol even existed. While both 'syrups' are used for recreational drug use, there is a big difference between the two: DXM is a dissociative psychedelic and consumption is relatively low risk (i.e. nonfatal) if administered properly, whereas opiates and alcohol are an extremely dangerous mixture that can easily be fatal. (Which is why alcohol consumption is strictly contraindicated for people taking opiate painkillers.) At the very least this article should contain both descriptions. Though what would be most appropriate is to make this article a description of recreational usage of DXM-containing cough syrups and create a separate article for opiate-containing cough syrups mixed with alcohol entitled 'sizzurp'. To sum up: 'syrup' and 'sizzurp' are not the same thing and usage of the word 'syrup' to describe 'sizzurp' is quite simply misusage. -- Stereoisomer 17:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
http://www.express-scripts.com/images/pillimages/00472162.916.JPG. it is then mixed with sprite, or any kind of drink and sometimes jolly ranchers or other candy is mixed in for flavor. now, i dont know anything about the alchohol mixing, never seen that done before. and the DXM stuff is not the syrup that this article is describing. THAT syrup is for the people trying to get high but cant afford/obtain the prescription stuff.
I kind of agree with Stereoisomer. Syrup should entail both DXM and codeine containing cough syrups. They are both used for recreational use and have different effects. DXM isn't necessarily for people who can't afford the prescription, sometimes they prefer the high. Oh yeah, I have never heard of people mixing alcohol with syrup and it is a bad idea anyway. Sometimes people try to mimic purple drank with crushed up pills and alcohol, but it is not the same thing.
To the person who wrote "actually": Both syrups should be included into this article, because the title is not specific. You would be right if it was titled "Purple Drank" or "Lean", but since it is just "Syrup", it should have subsections of the different types of syrups used recreationally.
70.105.150.24 10:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Everyone on the streets knows this by the "Purple Drank". I agree with other comments in this discussion there are a lot of other different types syrups. This article should be renamed "Purple Drank" or enclude all the different syrups ..
This is one of the most awful articles I have ever encountered and since I have cleaned up and wikified thousand of articles, that is saying a lot. I removed statements from "experts" (people who abuse the drug), links to Urban Dictionary that were being used as quasi-sources and links from questionable sources, like a rap wiki with no relevant sources and a cookbook wiki with no sources. The most reputable source, and the only one that remains, is MTV. It needs a total rewrite. -- Kjkolb 12:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
You just removed half of the article. That was all relevant information, now the article just sucks even more.
141.153.20.25 19:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Using DXM to get high is never referred to as Syrup. Notably because most people who use DXM recreationally take capsules or pills. Syrup invariably refers to the perscription cough syrup. -- Phade42 15:46 8/21/06
- You are completely uninformed. 'Syrup' has been a slang term for DXM-containing cough syrups for decades because it is the original and traditional source for legally obtaining DXM for recreational purposes. During the 1960s, 70s and into the 80s, DXM was only available OTC in syrup form, hence DXM usage will always be linked to the word 'syrup'. Next to perhaps the term 'Robo' (short for Robotussin Maximum Strength, the preferred syrup of DXM users), 'syrup' is still the most frequently used term for referring to DXM. As far as capsules go, they have only been available intermittently in the United States since the 1980s and were available only in Canada for much of the 1990s and the beginning of the 2000s. Only in 2003 did Robitussin finally reintroduce them to the United States market with the release of their CoughGel product line. The CoughGels have become popular amongst first-time or casual users as a hassle-free means of ingesting DXM recreationally, but are by no means the exclusive or even dominant method used for ingesting DXM. Cough syrup is still a very commonly used source because many veteran users experience negative or otherwise unwanted effects from ingesting the concentrated CoughGels which lack the slow, gradual come-up produced by DXM suspended in a syrup. So, "syrup invariably refers to the prescription cough syrup"? That's absolutely false. Next time, do some research beyond bits and pieces you've heard being tossed around by word-of-mouth. -- Stereoisomer 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
This article, along with its talk page, is an excellent example of the reason why Wikipedia prohibits original research -- individuals' experience may vary widely, so first-hand knowledge isn't enough of an authority for an encylopedia. If a fact has been published somewhere, then by all means put it in, and cite your sources. Pjrich 00:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
'Syrup' is slang for dextromethorphan (DXM) -- specifically DXM-containing cough syrups -- and has been for decades. That is to say, long before this disturbing new trend of consuming opiate-containing cough syrups mixed with alcohol even existed. While both 'syrups' are used for recreational drug use, there is a big difference between the two: DXM is a dissociative psychedelic and consumption is relatively low risk (i.e. nonfatal) if administered properly, whereas opiates and alcohol are an extremely dangerous mixture that can easily be fatal. (Which is why alcohol consumption is strictly contraindicated for people taking opiate painkillers.) At the very least this article should contain both descriptions. Though what would be most appropriate is to make this article a description of recreational usage of DXM-containing cough syrups and create a separate article for opiate-containing cough syrups mixed with alcohol entitled 'sizzurp'. To sum up: 'syrup' and 'sizzurp' are not the same thing and usage of the word 'syrup' to describe 'sizzurp' is quite simply misusage. -- Stereoisomer 17:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
http://www.express-scripts.com/images/pillimages/00472162.916.JPG. it is then mixed with sprite, or any kind of drink and sometimes jolly ranchers or other candy is mixed in for flavor. now, i dont know anything about the alchohol mixing, never seen that done before. and the DXM stuff is not the syrup that this article is describing. THAT syrup is for the people trying to get high but cant afford/obtain the prescription stuff.
I kind of agree with Stereoisomer. Syrup should entail both DXM and codeine containing cough syrups. They are both used for recreational use and have different effects. DXM isn't necessarily for people who can't afford the prescription, sometimes they prefer the high. Oh yeah, I have never heard of people mixing alcohol with syrup and it is a bad idea anyway. Sometimes people try to mimic purple drank with crushed up pills and alcohol, but it is not the same thing.
To the person who wrote "actually": Both syrups should be included into this article, because the title is not specific. You would be right if it was titled "Purple Drank" or "Lean", but since it is just "Syrup", it should have subsections of the different types of syrups used recreationally.
70.105.150.24 10:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Everyone on the streets knows this by the "Purple Drank". I agree with other comments in this discussion there are a lot of other different types syrups. This article should be renamed "Purple Drank" or enclude all the different syrups ..
This is one of the most awful articles I have ever encountered and since I have cleaned up and wikified thousand of articles, that is saying a lot. I removed statements from "experts" (people who abuse the drug), links to Urban Dictionary that were being used as quasi-sources and links from questionable sources, like a rap wiki with no relevant sources and a cookbook wiki with no sources. The most reputable source, and the only one that remains, is MTV. It needs a total rewrite. -- Kjkolb 12:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
You just removed half of the article. That was all relevant information, now the article just sucks even more.
141.153.20.25 19:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Using DXM to get high is never referred to as Syrup. Notably because most people who use DXM recreationally take capsules or pills. Syrup invariably refers to the perscription cough syrup. -- Phade42 15:46 8/21/06
- You are completely uninformed. 'Syrup' has been a slang term for DXM-containing cough syrups for decades because it is the original and traditional source for legally obtaining DXM for recreational purposes. During the 1960s, 70s and into the 80s, DXM was only available OTC in syrup form, hence DXM usage will always be linked to the word 'syrup'. Next to perhaps the term 'Robo' (short for Robotussin Maximum Strength, the preferred syrup of DXM users), 'syrup' is still the most frequently used term for referring to DXM. As far as capsules go, they have only been available intermittently in the United States since the 1980s and were available only in Canada for much of the 1990s and the beginning of the 2000s. Only in 2003 did Robitussin finally reintroduce them to the United States market with the release of their CoughGel product line. The CoughGels have become popular amongst first-time or casual users as a hassle-free means of ingesting DXM recreationally, but are by no means the exclusive or even dominant method used for ingesting DXM. Cough syrup is still a very commonly used source because many veteran users experience negative or otherwise unwanted effects from ingesting the concentrated CoughGels which lack the slow, gradual come-up produced by DXM suspended in a syrup. So, "syrup invariably refers to the prescription cough syrup"? That's absolutely false. Next time, do some research beyond bits and pieces you've heard being tossed around by word-of-mouth. -- Stereoisomer 21:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
This article, along with its talk page, is an excellent example of the reason why Wikipedia prohibits original research -- individuals' experience may vary widely, so first-hand knowledge isn't enough of an authority for an encylopedia. If a fact has been published somewhere, then by all means put it in, and cite your sources. Pjrich 00:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)