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Ought this:
There are also companies specialising in designing or replicating the perfect pub for you. One such company that has completed over 600 pubs all over the world in The Irish Pub Company. These sort of companies can offer you everything from how to run your pub and who to order from through to what you pub should look like.
To be deleted?
Looks like an advert to me...
Unregistered —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.228.106.137 ( talk) 11:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I came across the definition of a saloon, that says it was the "best part of a pub". I hoped that this page would tell me what parts a pub contains.
Whoever claimed that in Irish bars you hear more mention of saints has either
That ludicrous claim (which reads like someone with a clichéd stage-Irish 'catholic Ireland' vision of the emerald isle) has been put where it belongs, in the nearest bin. JTD 03:50 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)
Yeah it was awful. That's why Irish public house had to go. If there's enough new stuff added here to make it worthwhile having a separate article then it can go back. Mintguy
I agree with Mintguy's assessment. And have added some info on why Irish pubs are slightly different to English pubs. Less Father Ted, more social, historical and economic. Himselfetc
Regarding Notable British public houses section- i think it would be useful to include a short note explaining why a pub is notable, otherwise we could all just stick in our own favourite local (which I suspect is the case with a couple of entries...), which is kind of fine on one level (who is going to start the List of pubs frequented by Wikipedians????), but not too sure about encyclopedic value.... quercus robur 02:37, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
pub grub bit currently reads;
Pubs in Britain were primarily drinking establishments and little emphasis was placed on the serving of food. The usual fare consisted of specialised English snack food such as pork scratchings along with crisps and peanuts. If a pub served meals they were usually fairly basic dishes such as a ploughman's lunch.
I can't help but feel that this needs a bit of a rewrite as it seems to be about some mythical 'traditional' pub that has probabaly never really existed. i'm pretty sure pub meals have always been available, and ploughmans lunches were a late 70s invention as the article about them makes clear. quercus robur 01:43, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
In recent years many pubs do serve an extensive range of food (partly because there is a much higher profit margin on food than drinks). Go back 20 years or more and there were far fewer pubs serving food (as in cooked meals), although the bar snacks mentioned above were (and are) available in almost every 'boozer'. And there are still plenty of pubs where your food choice is limited to pork scratchings, crisps, nuts, etc. Warminster Joe ( talk) 08:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Currently reads;
However; by law, pubs must offer at least one alternative beer (known as a guest beer) from another brewery and that beer must be a cask conditioned? real ale.
Can this be verified? i know loads of pubs that don't have guest beers or real ales available. quercus robur 12:22, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)
What exactly is the difference between a pub and a bar (except for the fact that a bar can be embedded in a hotel or such)? Evercat 21:42, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Public Houses I think came about after the wars which Britain was embroiled in during the 18th century as well as the Napoleonic wars. This was where widows were given licences to brew beer in their houses and use the front room of their house to sell the beer. This was authorised by act of Parliament in order to provide war widows with some kind of income.
Thus you had authorisation to brew beer and sell it in your house. You were thus making your house open to the public and in turn it was therefore a Public House! Interestingly this is where the term 'hole in the wall' comes from too as many initial Public Houses had a small hole knocked through in the wall in order to enable the widow to sell beer to customers in the front room without actually being in the front room.
Many original Public Houses may still have the original hole in the wall. The Rising Sun in High Wych near Harlow in Essex still has it's original hole.
Now the difference between Public Houses and Bars is that in Scotland, Ireland, etc no such legislation came into force. Thus Irish Pubs for example are actually legally seen as bars rather than Public Houses. Also in Scotland you will see many more "Bars" than "Pubs"!
However the term "pub" is so well ingrained as slang that anyone can call themselves a pub if they have the right decor and atmosphere.
Hope this clears things up. -- Pudduh 13:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
A few things leap to mind which I think would be good to include. The licensing laws and last orders deserve a mention "time gentlemen", etc. Staffing, there's a mention of the owner but not of the bar staff, how about the stereotypical bar maid and customer chatting her up. Often employ students.
At what point did pubs evolve from male-only establishments to having a mix of men and women, and even families? What's the law on children in pubs? The summer pub garden culture. How about the layout, you have the bar (with stools) and then seats - some pubs (did or do) have a family room, or even ladies' lounge, with a seperate side of the bar to serve them, I believe. Presumably before respectable women went to pubs, there would have been prostitutes? Are all pubs equally welcoming, or are some more locals-only?
How about the "traditional" pub interior, with all the dark wood. Pub advertising. Tipping. People are drinking less in pubs - does this mean people are drinking less in general or are they drinking elsewear? Presumably pubs have a colourful history, and a violent one, how about pressgangs and pub brawls. Politicians trying to cash in on the pub image (I'm a man just like you) - like Hague and his boasts of how much he drank.
It seems to me that pubs must be quite cliquey - many are student pubs, with cheap (watered?) beer, others are the haunts of the working classes, others of the middle classes. What was the pub in Only Fools and Horses called? Er, I think that was more than "a few" things, sorry. ;) fabiform | talk 16:57, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Eh, what's with the drive-by on George W. Bush? Does this serve any purpose except to bash the man? It mentions the cost of security, Bush's alcoholism, and the claim that he left without paying (without any reference.) My inclination is to remove this, as I don't think it really adds anything to an understanding of "pubs in British culture." If anyone wants to save it, speak up, and do some balancing on it. Isomorphic 23:53, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
When did it first become possible and customary in Britain to go to a public place specifically for drinking ale or beer by the glass for money? - Joe Spivack
British question really - what's the legal difference between a Free House and a Public Hosue? To me, on the ground, they seem the same and are both called "pubs", but surely there is a difference..
Anyone got the answer? David.
Public Houses I think came about after the wars which Britain was embroiled in during the 18th century as well as the Napoleonic wars. This was where widows were given licences to brew beer in their houses and use the front room of their house to sell the beer. This was authorised by act of Parliament in order to provide war widows with some kind of income.
Thus you had authorisation to brew beer and sell it in your house. You were thus making your house open to the public and in turn it was therefore a Public House! Interestingly this is where the term 'hole in the wall' comes from too as many initial Public Houses had a small hole knocked through in the wall in order to enable the widow to sell beer to customers in the front room without actually being in the front room.
Many original Public Houses may still have the original hole in the wall. The Rising Sun in High Wych near Harlow in Essex still has it's original hole.-- Pudduh 13:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The "Notable British pubs" section seems to be full of pubs with some quite doubtful claims of notability, this counting even several of those with their own articles. There seems to be no real guidelines for what's included. Some seem to be here just because they have a slightly interesting story connected with them (I think this can probably be said of most pubs, in general). Some have no claim to fame at all. The Royal Oak, Meavy, Devon should certianly be merged with Meavy, Devon, but there is no article on Meavy. Now anyone want to work on cleaning this up? I'm happy to help. Also, is the line about Shaun of the Dead relevant at all? I haven't seen the movie yet, but if a bunch of the characters hang out in a pub how is that anymore remarkable than just about any other British film? - R. fiend 18:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
The reference to Shaun of the dead in the Public House topic is sound. This is because (*SPOILER*) Shaun sees the Pub as holding every value he holds dear so when all hell breaks loose he disregards everything else to evacuate his freinds and family to his loacl pub. It is only when they get inside the pub that they realise just how futile a move it was. -- Pudduh 15:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
'GUV' or 'GUV'NOR' refers to boss. To my experience and knowledge, it is more likely that the barman would call a customer (or 'punter') Guv'nor, or Guv, since the customer is traditionally seen as the 'boss' of the publican. 81.77.158.140 17:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there some other article discussing pubs in Australia or is this one missing some info? They're not just a British thing. pfctdayelise ( translate?) 14:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Just noticed the Pubs well worth a visit section on this page seems to contain only three pubs, all in the Cotswolds. While I'm sure they are excellent pubs, this does seem very subjective. I think there used to be a heading 'Notable Pubs' before. I haven't removed this section as it doesn't seem like my place to pronounce on this, but is there any way of having a considered and reliable set of example pubs. (Declared interest, I run a free pub guide website. I'm happy to confidentially contribute an opinion, but because of my web site cannot formally endorse any one pub over another). Duncshine 15:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Good morning all. Just reading this article, and I wonder whether the information under the Pub Names part of this page would be better in the actual Pub names article. Certainly the information about John Manners and the origins of Goat & Compasses would seem to belong there. Maybe it makes sense just to have very broad mention of pub names here, and link it to the Pub Names article. What do people think? Duncshine 09:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Now that Irish pubs, or vague simulacra thereof, are a fixture of nearly every city outside Ireland, I suggest we better research where this trend began. AFAIK, the first overseas "Irish pub" was in Germany in around 1971, but I'm having trouble backing this claim. The one in the Europa-Center in Berlin is pretty old, but I don't think it was the first. ProhibitOnions 14:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
We need to monitor and keep to a minimum the links to websites listing pubs. A long list of websites with little information, or information related to a small area is counter-productive. See Wikipedia:External links, specifically: "Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If deemed unnecessary, or if no good directory listing exists, one should not be included." If someone persistently adds their own website to this or any other article you may consider using: Template:Spam on their Talkpage. SilkTork 10:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
This article talks about pubs being split (along class lines) into the Saloon and the Public bar. I've seen pubs with rooms labelled "Vault" and "Lounge" which seem to be split more along gender lines: the Vault being an all-male preserve and the Lounge being mixed, but I don't know if that's the whole story. Does anyone know more?
It certainly used to be the case in the uk that "Ladies" where expected to stay in the lounge bar as oposed to the public bar - I recall a pub in the north of the uk on the canal system that I and a mixed group of freinds went in where the landladys was fairly insistent that we went into the lounge ratehr than the public bar this would be early 80's
Mjwalshe 13:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Waitress service or its non-sexist equivalent used to be the norm around Newcastle on Tyne - is this not still the case? Parts of Scotland (eg the pubs near Onich?) also use a mixture of bar and waiter service I think. Linuxlad 19:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
The interpretation of this nursery rhyme is only incidental to the subject of this article, but I think is fanciful: "weasel" is local Cockney Rhyming Slang for "coat", quite apart from the obscure tailoring tool (which a drunk would be much less likely to pawn). In the absence of authority for either version, I suppose the improbable one should be omitted? Jezza 10:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I would really like to see more images of the interior of pubs in this article. While the exterior shots do add a great deal to the article, it seems to me that the most defining aspects are inside. I'd shoot some myself, but I'm in the U.S., and as the article notes, they're not too prevalent here. The shots at commons:Pub all appear to be exteriors or signs. — ptk⁂ fgs 12:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a geographically-confusing article. The introduction asserts that pubs are found in many English-speaking countries, yet much of the information in the article applies only to the UK. Moreover, while "pubs" are found in many countries, the term "public house", the actual title of this article, does not apply in Australia, for example. There needs to be more clarity from the start about the actual domain of reference of this article. mg e kelly 23:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
This article seems to focus on one aspect of the Public House: drinking. In fact Public Houses were historically just that: Public houses. They were places were travelers spent the night - this usually included dinner (lunch), supper, a bed to sleep on (or a spot on the floor) and then breakfast. Public houses could be found everywhere (they were usually just private homes made "open to the public") and when you traveled, you traveled from public house to public house (by foot, horse or chaise). -- Stbalbach 17:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Also know as ( Newvic ) in Richmond Road Brighton has some history, but nobody knows what it is do you or anyone who can help with providing history about it please. I no it dates back to the 18th century somewhere about's. And just recently in the last 6 years been refurbished. Does anyone one no a link to the history or can help please i would like to no more about it.. mail me to newvichist@ntlworld.com
kind regards
Jonniboi
These links were removed last year. I haven't checked through them, but it is possible they may provide good reference and resource material so I have transplanted them here. SilkTork 14:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
(removing list of random extlinks which haevn't been incorporated. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC))
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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Ought this:
There are also companies specialising in designing or replicating the perfect pub for you. One such company that has completed over 600 pubs all over the world in The Irish Pub Company. These sort of companies can offer you everything from how to run your pub and who to order from through to what you pub should look like.
To be deleted?
Looks like an advert to me...
Unregistered —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.228.106.137 ( talk) 11:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I came across the definition of a saloon, that says it was the "best part of a pub". I hoped that this page would tell me what parts a pub contains.
Whoever claimed that in Irish bars you hear more mention of saints has either
That ludicrous claim (which reads like someone with a clichéd stage-Irish 'catholic Ireland' vision of the emerald isle) has been put where it belongs, in the nearest bin. JTD 03:50 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)
Yeah it was awful. That's why Irish public house had to go. If there's enough new stuff added here to make it worthwhile having a separate article then it can go back. Mintguy
I agree with Mintguy's assessment. And have added some info on why Irish pubs are slightly different to English pubs. Less Father Ted, more social, historical and economic. Himselfetc
Regarding Notable British public houses section- i think it would be useful to include a short note explaining why a pub is notable, otherwise we could all just stick in our own favourite local (which I suspect is the case with a couple of entries...), which is kind of fine on one level (who is going to start the List of pubs frequented by Wikipedians????), but not too sure about encyclopedic value.... quercus robur 02:37, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
pub grub bit currently reads;
Pubs in Britain were primarily drinking establishments and little emphasis was placed on the serving of food. The usual fare consisted of specialised English snack food such as pork scratchings along with crisps and peanuts. If a pub served meals they were usually fairly basic dishes such as a ploughman's lunch.
I can't help but feel that this needs a bit of a rewrite as it seems to be about some mythical 'traditional' pub that has probabaly never really existed. i'm pretty sure pub meals have always been available, and ploughmans lunches were a late 70s invention as the article about them makes clear. quercus robur 01:43, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
In recent years many pubs do serve an extensive range of food (partly because there is a much higher profit margin on food than drinks). Go back 20 years or more and there were far fewer pubs serving food (as in cooked meals), although the bar snacks mentioned above were (and are) available in almost every 'boozer'. And there are still plenty of pubs where your food choice is limited to pork scratchings, crisps, nuts, etc. Warminster Joe ( talk) 08:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Currently reads;
However; by law, pubs must offer at least one alternative beer (known as a guest beer) from another brewery and that beer must be a cask conditioned? real ale.
Can this be verified? i know loads of pubs that don't have guest beers or real ales available. quercus robur 12:22, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)
What exactly is the difference between a pub and a bar (except for the fact that a bar can be embedded in a hotel or such)? Evercat 21:42, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Public Houses I think came about after the wars which Britain was embroiled in during the 18th century as well as the Napoleonic wars. This was where widows were given licences to brew beer in their houses and use the front room of their house to sell the beer. This was authorised by act of Parliament in order to provide war widows with some kind of income.
Thus you had authorisation to brew beer and sell it in your house. You were thus making your house open to the public and in turn it was therefore a Public House! Interestingly this is where the term 'hole in the wall' comes from too as many initial Public Houses had a small hole knocked through in the wall in order to enable the widow to sell beer to customers in the front room without actually being in the front room.
Many original Public Houses may still have the original hole in the wall. The Rising Sun in High Wych near Harlow in Essex still has it's original hole.
Now the difference between Public Houses and Bars is that in Scotland, Ireland, etc no such legislation came into force. Thus Irish Pubs for example are actually legally seen as bars rather than Public Houses. Also in Scotland you will see many more "Bars" than "Pubs"!
However the term "pub" is so well ingrained as slang that anyone can call themselves a pub if they have the right decor and atmosphere.
Hope this clears things up. -- Pudduh 13:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
A few things leap to mind which I think would be good to include. The licensing laws and last orders deserve a mention "time gentlemen", etc. Staffing, there's a mention of the owner but not of the bar staff, how about the stereotypical bar maid and customer chatting her up. Often employ students.
At what point did pubs evolve from male-only establishments to having a mix of men and women, and even families? What's the law on children in pubs? The summer pub garden culture. How about the layout, you have the bar (with stools) and then seats - some pubs (did or do) have a family room, or even ladies' lounge, with a seperate side of the bar to serve them, I believe. Presumably before respectable women went to pubs, there would have been prostitutes? Are all pubs equally welcoming, or are some more locals-only?
How about the "traditional" pub interior, with all the dark wood. Pub advertising. Tipping. People are drinking less in pubs - does this mean people are drinking less in general or are they drinking elsewear? Presumably pubs have a colourful history, and a violent one, how about pressgangs and pub brawls. Politicians trying to cash in on the pub image (I'm a man just like you) - like Hague and his boasts of how much he drank.
It seems to me that pubs must be quite cliquey - many are student pubs, with cheap (watered?) beer, others are the haunts of the working classes, others of the middle classes. What was the pub in Only Fools and Horses called? Er, I think that was more than "a few" things, sorry. ;) fabiform | talk 16:57, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Eh, what's with the drive-by on George W. Bush? Does this serve any purpose except to bash the man? It mentions the cost of security, Bush's alcoholism, and the claim that he left without paying (without any reference.) My inclination is to remove this, as I don't think it really adds anything to an understanding of "pubs in British culture." If anyone wants to save it, speak up, and do some balancing on it. Isomorphic 23:53, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
When did it first become possible and customary in Britain to go to a public place specifically for drinking ale or beer by the glass for money? - Joe Spivack
British question really - what's the legal difference between a Free House and a Public Hosue? To me, on the ground, they seem the same and are both called "pubs", but surely there is a difference..
Anyone got the answer? David.
Public Houses I think came about after the wars which Britain was embroiled in during the 18th century as well as the Napoleonic wars. This was where widows were given licences to brew beer in their houses and use the front room of their house to sell the beer. This was authorised by act of Parliament in order to provide war widows with some kind of income.
Thus you had authorisation to brew beer and sell it in your house. You were thus making your house open to the public and in turn it was therefore a Public House! Interestingly this is where the term 'hole in the wall' comes from too as many initial Public Houses had a small hole knocked through in the wall in order to enable the widow to sell beer to customers in the front room without actually being in the front room.
Many original Public Houses may still have the original hole in the wall. The Rising Sun in High Wych near Harlow in Essex still has it's original hole.-- Pudduh 13:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The "Notable British pubs" section seems to be full of pubs with some quite doubtful claims of notability, this counting even several of those with their own articles. There seems to be no real guidelines for what's included. Some seem to be here just because they have a slightly interesting story connected with them (I think this can probably be said of most pubs, in general). Some have no claim to fame at all. The Royal Oak, Meavy, Devon should certianly be merged with Meavy, Devon, but there is no article on Meavy. Now anyone want to work on cleaning this up? I'm happy to help. Also, is the line about Shaun of the Dead relevant at all? I haven't seen the movie yet, but if a bunch of the characters hang out in a pub how is that anymore remarkable than just about any other British film? - R. fiend 18:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
The reference to Shaun of the dead in the Public House topic is sound. This is because (*SPOILER*) Shaun sees the Pub as holding every value he holds dear so when all hell breaks loose he disregards everything else to evacuate his freinds and family to his loacl pub. It is only when they get inside the pub that they realise just how futile a move it was. -- Pudduh 15:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
'GUV' or 'GUV'NOR' refers to boss. To my experience and knowledge, it is more likely that the barman would call a customer (or 'punter') Guv'nor, or Guv, since the customer is traditionally seen as the 'boss' of the publican. 81.77.158.140 17:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there some other article discussing pubs in Australia or is this one missing some info? They're not just a British thing. pfctdayelise ( translate?) 14:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Just noticed the Pubs well worth a visit section on this page seems to contain only three pubs, all in the Cotswolds. While I'm sure they are excellent pubs, this does seem very subjective. I think there used to be a heading 'Notable Pubs' before. I haven't removed this section as it doesn't seem like my place to pronounce on this, but is there any way of having a considered and reliable set of example pubs. (Declared interest, I run a free pub guide website. I'm happy to confidentially contribute an opinion, but because of my web site cannot formally endorse any one pub over another). Duncshine 15:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Good morning all. Just reading this article, and I wonder whether the information under the Pub Names part of this page would be better in the actual Pub names article. Certainly the information about John Manners and the origins of Goat & Compasses would seem to belong there. Maybe it makes sense just to have very broad mention of pub names here, and link it to the Pub Names article. What do people think? Duncshine 09:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Now that Irish pubs, or vague simulacra thereof, are a fixture of nearly every city outside Ireland, I suggest we better research where this trend began. AFAIK, the first overseas "Irish pub" was in Germany in around 1971, but I'm having trouble backing this claim. The one in the Europa-Center in Berlin is pretty old, but I don't think it was the first. ProhibitOnions 14:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
We need to monitor and keep to a minimum the links to websites listing pubs. A long list of websites with little information, or information related to a small area is counter-productive. See Wikipedia:External links, specifically: "Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If deemed unnecessary, or if no good directory listing exists, one should not be included." If someone persistently adds their own website to this or any other article you may consider using: Template:Spam on their Talkpage. SilkTork 10:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
This article talks about pubs being split (along class lines) into the Saloon and the Public bar. I've seen pubs with rooms labelled "Vault" and "Lounge" which seem to be split more along gender lines: the Vault being an all-male preserve and the Lounge being mixed, but I don't know if that's the whole story. Does anyone know more?
It certainly used to be the case in the uk that "Ladies" where expected to stay in the lounge bar as oposed to the public bar - I recall a pub in the north of the uk on the canal system that I and a mixed group of freinds went in where the landladys was fairly insistent that we went into the lounge ratehr than the public bar this would be early 80's
Mjwalshe 13:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Waitress service or its non-sexist equivalent used to be the norm around Newcastle on Tyne - is this not still the case? Parts of Scotland (eg the pubs near Onich?) also use a mixture of bar and waiter service I think. Linuxlad 19:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
The interpretation of this nursery rhyme is only incidental to the subject of this article, but I think is fanciful: "weasel" is local Cockney Rhyming Slang for "coat", quite apart from the obscure tailoring tool (which a drunk would be much less likely to pawn). In the absence of authority for either version, I suppose the improbable one should be omitted? Jezza 10:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I would really like to see more images of the interior of pubs in this article. While the exterior shots do add a great deal to the article, it seems to me that the most defining aspects are inside. I'd shoot some myself, but I'm in the U.S., and as the article notes, they're not too prevalent here. The shots at commons:Pub all appear to be exteriors or signs. — ptk⁂ fgs 12:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a geographically-confusing article. The introduction asserts that pubs are found in many English-speaking countries, yet much of the information in the article applies only to the UK. Moreover, while "pubs" are found in many countries, the term "public house", the actual title of this article, does not apply in Australia, for example. There needs to be more clarity from the start about the actual domain of reference of this article. mg e kelly 23:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
This article seems to focus on one aspect of the Public House: drinking. In fact Public Houses were historically just that: Public houses. They were places were travelers spent the night - this usually included dinner (lunch), supper, a bed to sleep on (or a spot on the floor) and then breakfast. Public houses could be found everywhere (they were usually just private homes made "open to the public") and when you traveled, you traveled from public house to public house (by foot, horse or chaise). -- Stbalbach 17:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Also know as ( Newvic ) in Richmond Road Brighton has some history, but nobody knows what it is do you or anyone who can help with providing history about it please. I no it dates back to the 18th century somewhere about's. And just recently in the last 6 years been refurbished. Does anyone one no a link to the history or can help please i would like to no more about it.. mail me to newvichist@ntlworld.com
kind regards
Jonniboi
These links were removed last year. I haven't checked through them, but it is possible they may provide good reference and resource material so I have transplanted them here. SilkTork 14:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
(removing list of random extlinks which haevn't been incorporated. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC))