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Failed, due to the nominator adding a few proposed edits.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
""Psycho" is about how one is in a "strange" relationship" → "it is about how two are in a strange relationship" since this is not directly quoted in the body
"Along with its accompanying" → "Along with the accompanying" since we know the video is for the song from the accompanying term being used
"previous Korean releases in 2019, "Psycho" attained bigger commercial success" → "previous Korean releases that year, the song was more successful commercially" as the current wording isn't very encyclopedic
"It was also an international success" → "The song was also an international success"
"while being their first chart entry" → "and their first entry"
"tying them with" → "tying Red Velvet with" as you haven't said who they are specifically for a while
Done
Background and release
"During the group's appearance" → "During Red Velvet's appearance"
"on July 2019" → "in July 2019"
"that their upcoming plans for 2019" → "that their upcoming plans for that year"
"namely Day 2 (which was later released on August 20, 2019) and Finale." → "namely Day 2 and Finale, the former of which was later was released on August 20, 2019."
"the group's third concert La Rouge" → "the group's third concert, La Rouge,"
"midnight of December 12, 2019, along" → "midnight of that year's December 12, along" since you have stated 2019 soon before but can't say "of" too close
"the official video being released a day later" → "the music video being released the following day"
Write out the info from Release history in prose here
Done
Composition
On the audio file's text, wikilink
future bass to itself
"that sees Red Velvet" → "that includes Red Velvet"
Add refs that are invoked in this section after the file's text too
"American producer" → "American record producer" with no wikilink(s)
"EJAE and frequently-collaborated singer-songwriter Cazzi Opeia" → "EJAE, and frequently collaborator Cazzi Opeia" since this is enough intro
"about a breakup which" → "about a breakup where"
"to come up with the actual song" → "to come up with the song"
"acknowledge the group's duality" → "acknowledged Red Velvet's duality"
"by Opeia (which eventually leaked onto the Internet weeks before the song's release)" → "by Opeia that eventually leaked on the Internet weeks before the song's release"
"to the scene where all members" → "to the scene in which all members"
"then ends with Irene" → "before ending with Irene"
"cuts to the group's name and album logo" → "cuts to the name Red Velvet and the album logo" since we haven't named the group for a while by now
"Following the music video release" → "Following the music video's release"
"praising the music video being" → "praising the video for being"
"Write Kelly Sipko from" → "Writer Kelly Sipko from"
Remove Refinery29 info due to the new order; just write Morin instead for identification
"noted the music video's" → "noted the visual's"
"then released a performance video" → "later released a performance video"
"and later released a live performance" → "and also released a live performance"
"on January 13, 2020" → "on January 13 of that year"
"the music video for "Psycho" hit" → "the music video for the track reached"
"which is also the group's fastest video" → "which is the group's fastest video"
"achieving in just" → "achieving it in"
Done
Tour and live performances
This section belongs below Commercial performance in the new order
Retitle to Live performances, since tour performances are the same thing, essentially.
"comparing to their previous promotion" → "comparing to Red Velvet's previous promotion"
"Red Velvet gave their first live performance for" → "The group delivered their first live performance of"
"limited participation for the group's" → "limited participation for their"
[18][16] put in numerical order
"Red Velvet was then confirmed" → "Red Velvet were then confirmed"
"on December 25, scheduled" → "on December 25 of that year, scheduled"
Remove target on Wendy
"where they also won their fifth" → "where Red Velvet also won their fifth"
Done
Commercial performance
This section belongs in-between Music video and Live performances in the new order
"Soon after, the song achieved" → "Shortly later, the song achieved"
"the first girl group (second overall for idol group) to achieve" → "the first girl group and second overall for idol group to achieve"
"On the final week of December 2019" → "In the final week of December 2019"
Identify the Gaon chart as being from South Korea
Remove target on rapper as that is very obvious/pointless
"first top-two entry" → "first top 2 entry" since
MOS:NUMBERS suggests consistency with comparative values
"and the first to do so since" → "and their first since"
"while becoming their fifth No. 2 entry and their twelfth top-ten entry overall, respectively" → "while becoming their 5th and 12th number 2 and top 10 entry overall, respectively"
Cite Gaon Music Chart as the publisher for refs 55 and 59 with no wikilinks
Cite Official Charts Company as the publisher for ref 57 with no wikilink
Done
Final comments and verdict
On hold for now as it's a well-researched, but needs quite a few fixes before reaching GA-status. One suggestion I have would be to add an image, since this article has a lot of information so a relevant one should be easy to find for inclusion. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
09:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)reply
✗ Fail I hate to do this but it's been over a week and the nominator has only added a few of the proposed edits, plus they are barely active at WP and the [unreliable source?] template has been planked on two citations of this page. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
04:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
@
HĐ: The comments given by the previous reviewer seems to be mostly solved now. I only double-checked and also did some revisions on the article that were not done by the previous nominator. I hope you could now continue the review of this article for making it a good article. Thank you so much. Also there were a lot of additional information and revisions added or either removed since the last review, therefore a lot of the comments couldn't be applied on the current state of the article. But I tried to do some of the comments from the previous reviewer. Thank you once again!
LipaCityPH (
talk)
05:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
HĐ: and @
LipaCityPH:, good job on both of you for picking up on the comments from my review of this article earlier this year during the second review process, as it is great to make sure all previously instated issues have been solved so the following review can be smoother and I was going to mention about the review on here until HĐ did! --
K. Peake08:00, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
became an instant fan-favorite This is POV; remove it
What does year-end release mean. Probably you meant "being released by the end of 2019"?
the song appeared in several year-end lists by critics, cited as one of the best K-pop releases of 2019 → "the song was cited as one of the best K-pop songs of 2019 by critics"
@
HĐ: Is there anything I should still revise? All your reviews have been done on the article already. Thank you for reviewing the article. :) If there is anything to change please put it on the comments regarding the corrections. Thank you once again! :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
17:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
American record producer Andrew Scott, EJAE, and frequent collaborator Cazzi Opeia It's weird to mention the nationality of only one producer... would you like to add the nationality of the other two?
A short explanation on duality sonic concept would be helpful
With the demo version recorded in English by Opeia that eventually leaked on the Internet weeks before the song's release, the lyrics were then rewritten in Korean by songwriter Kenzie, with additional arrangement from producer Druski, and Yoo Young-jin, the latter of which co-produced the group's previous single "Bad Boy" in 2018. This part does not have any source at all
I would specify that the critic Tamar Herman writes for Billboard
As I said earlier, explain what the "Velvet" concept is for those who do not know anything about the group
a tempo of 140 beat-per-minute → "140 beats per minute"
The group's vocal range spanned about 2 octaves → "The group's vocals span two octaves"
A slightly different version of the song was used for the music video, with the chorus having an additional synth line and the pre-chorus including a string melody, while the digital and streaming version omitted these elements →This also does not have a source
Commercial performance
Done
Remove the information regarding the iTunes Stores and digital charts of Korea, per
WP:RECORDCHART. Only keep the information regarding the
Gaon Digital Chart
Write out the numbers 1–9 in word ("one", "two" etc.) per
MOS:NUM
Also, 1st-9th should be written out ("first", "second" etc.)
With this, the song became the group's first top 2 entry in 2019, marking their highest charting release since "Power Up", while becoming their 5th and 12th number 2 and top 10 entry overall, respectively Remove this because this is
original research
and eventually landed as the fifth biggest song and the biggest idol song on the 2020 mid-year issue of Gaon Digital Chart. Remove this because this is also original research
You should explain that the "Digital Chart" is a ranking of songs based on sales+streams; and the "Download Chart" is based on sales only
In addition, it topped the Gaon Download Chart for two weeks, giving the group their sixth chart-topper on the chart, while peaking at number two for two weeks on the component Streaming Chart This does not have any source
The song then rose to number two for three weeks, earning the group their seventh top-five hit. This does not have any source
"Psycho" also attained success outside its home country Remove this since it is not necessary, and also original research
number ninety-nine → number 99
Live
Done
Promotion activities for the song were rather limited comparing to Red Velvet's previous promotion cycles due to Finale being a year-end release This does not have any source
I would remove Celebmix as it is not a reliable source
As stated previously, numbers 1–9 should be written out, numbers from 10 onwards can be kept in number form, as long as they are consistent
Remove Apple Music, Bugs, and Medium, because they are not critical sources
Accolades
Done
Remove due to its massive success on the digital chart because this is
POV
Music video
Done
video director O Is his name "O"? I find it funny...
@
HĐ: I find it unusual and funny as well.. However, that is the name of the director based from the liner notes in the album. Also refer to
Red Velvet videography for the reference of who directed the music video. It will state that it's from the photobook where the liner note is in. Thank you!
LipaCityPH (
talk)
10:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Choreography for the video was created by former 1MILLION choreographer Mina Myoung and choreographer Bailey Sok from Skeleton Crew → you don't really "create" choreography; reword it to "The video was choreographed by Minya Myoung from 1MILLION and Bailey Sok from Skeleton Crew"
Please shorten the synopsis two only 5-6 sentences
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HĐ: I have removed the synopsis and mainly focused on reception. However, if you insist on putting synopsis, I will revert and put the synopsis again with 5-6 sentences like what you said. Sorry once again for the inconvenience and thank you for your time. :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
13:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Currently in December 2020, the music video has 210 million views Remove this part
Credits, charts, certifications, release history
Done
Looks good overall
Remove the "release history" section because the sources here are about the album's release, and not the single's release
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
@
HĐ: Almost all comments were address and I marked them done. Only missing references on the part of the articles are missing. I will fill out and look for proper references supporting the statements and sentences on the page. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you so much for understanding. :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
13:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
LipaCityPH: Thank you for your progress on the article. I have read the article again, and see some very good improvements. However, there are remaining spots where no source is provided, which I have tagged with {{citation needed}} so that you could indicate where to add source (make sure it is a
reliable source!). I also have trimmed the lead a little bit to make the grammar and wording smoother,
HĐ (
talk)
05:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I also have some more comments that need to be resolved as follows:
Done
Within the first twenty-four hours after its release, "Psycho" topped all five South Korean major digital charts.[8][9] Shortly later, the song achieved both "real-time all-kill" and "certified all-kill" respectively, making Red Velvet the first girl group and second overall for idol group to achieve such status in 2019 Remove this part, because
WP:BADCHARTS specify that "charts specific to a retailer should not be used". And in this case, websites such as Melon are retailers.
I see that you have removed the synopsis section. I think it is okay to include a short paragraph of 4-5 sentences (especially highlighting the Victorian Gothic concept)
Refs 1, 3, 16, 46, 50 are taken from YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, which are unreliable sources. Can you find alternate sources to these? If not, I would recommend removing them altogether.
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HĐ: Hi there! Thank you so much for the effort of giving comments! :) I do appreciate it a lot! I think that I've pretty much done everything in your comments for good article nomination. Please tell me if I missed out anything. Sorry for the inconvenience. Once again, thank you so much!
LipaCityPH (
talk)
06:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
HĐ: Thank you so much for the effort and communication we had in making the article listed under good article. I'll work on future articles soon and hope that you get to review them too! Thank you so much once again! :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
09:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Thank you for that! I appreciate that much a lot! Thank you once again for the previous comments that you made for the first nomination for good article review. That helped a lot! :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
09:07, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
First performance of Psycho on Vlive comeback special
That SEDaily ref used to support the first sentence in this section does not actually state that psycho was performed or would be performed on Vlive. In fact, no article I could find on Naver states this (and I searched from the very first one dd that mentioned the term 'reve festival finale' all the way down to Dec 24, 2020). What the articles do say is that RV would hold a comeback special on this day for the release, that discuss things related to the album, and even I saw some mention a "live" stage but no song title was specified. Any references to Psycho were about its being the lead single/part of the tracklist, that it would be performed at Gayo, or that it topped realtime music charts. The only thing proving RV performed it during the special is
Vlive's actual upload of the performance but I don't think that can be used as an acceptable reference. --
Carlobunnie (
talk)
06:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Done Comments have been addressed. No articles were published since the release of the live performance was sudden and only the videos posted on V Live were proof. Instead of the link you've put up as a reference, I used another V Live video, not merely focused on the song but the event and video episode it was posted. Thank you for your concern.
LipaCityPH (
talk)
13:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Psycho (Red Velvet song) (
final version) received a
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This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
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Failed, due to the nominator adding a few proposed edits.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
""Psycho" is about how one is in a "strange" relationship" → "it is about how two are in a strange relationship" since this is not directly quoted in the body
"Along with its accompanying" → "Along with the accompanying" since we know the video is for the song from the accompanying term being used
"previous Korean releases in 2019, "Psycho" attained bigger commercial success" → "previous Korean releases that year, the song was more successful commercially" as the current wording isn't very encyclopedic
"It was also an international success" → "The song was also an international success"
"while being their first chart entry" → "and their first entry"
"tying them with" → "tying Red Velvet with" as you haven't said who they are specifically for a while
Done
Background and release
"During the group's appearance" → "During Red Velvet's appearance"
"on July 2019" → "in July 2019"
"that their upcoming plans for 2019" → "that their upcoming plans for that year"
"namely Day 2 (which was later released on August 20, 2019) and Finale." → "namely Day 2 and Finale, the former of which was later was released on August 20, 2019."
"the group's third concert La Rouge" → "the group's third concert, La Rouge,"
"midnight of December 12, 2019, along" → "midnight of that year's December 12, along" since you have stated 2019 soon before but can't say "of" too close
"the official video being released a day later" → "the music video being released the following day"
Write out the info from Release history in prose here
Done
Composition
On the audio file's text, wikilink
future bass to itself
"that sees Red Velvet" → "that includes Red Velvet"
Add refs that are invoked in this section after the file's text too
"American producer" → "American record producer" with no wikilink(s)
"EJAE and frequently-collaborated singer-songwriter Cazzi Opeia" → "EJAE, and frequently collaborator Cazzi Opeia" since this is enough intro
"about a breakup which" → "about a breakup where"
"to come up with the actual song" → "to come up with the song"
"acknowledge the group's duality" → "acknowledged Red Velvet's duality"
"by Opeia (which eventually leaked onto the Internet weeks before the song's release)" → "by Opeia that eventually leaked on the Internet weeks before the song's release"
"to the scene where all members" → "to the scene in which all members"
"then ends with Irene" → "before ending with Irene"
"cuts to the group's name and album logo" → "cuts to the name Red Velvet and the album logo" since we haven't named the group for a while by now
"Following the music video release" → "Following the music video's release"
"praising the music video being" → "praising the video for being"
"Write Kelly Sipko from" → "Writer Kelly Sipko from"
Remove Refinery29 info due to the new order; just write Morin instead for identification
"noted the music video's" → "noted the visual's"
"then released a performance video" → "later released a performance video"
"and later released a live performance" → "and also released a live performance"
"on January 13, 2020" → "on January 13 of that year"
"the music video for "Psycho" hit" → "the music video for the track reached"
"which is also the group's fastest video" → "which is the group's fastest video"
"achieving in just" → "achieving it in"
Done
Tour and live performances
This section belongs below Commercial performance in the new order
Retitle to Live performances, since tour performances are the same thing, essentially.
"comparing to their previous promotion" → "comparing to Red Velvet's previous promotion"
"Red Velvet gave their first live performance for" → "The group delivered their first live performance of"
"limited participation for the group's" → "limited participation for their"
[18][16] put in numerical order
"Red Velvet was then confirmed" → "Red Velvet were then confirmed"
"on December 25, scheduled" → "on December 25 of that year, scheduled"
Remove target on Wendy
"where they also won their fifth" → "where Red Velvet also won their fifth"
Done
Commercial performance
This section belongs in-between Music video and Live performances in the new order
"Soon after, the song achieved" → "Shortly later, the song achieved"
"the first girl group (second overall for idol group) to achieve" → "the first girl group and second overall for idol group to achieve"
"On the final week of December 2019" → "In the final week of December 2019"
Identify the Gaon chart as being from South Korea
Remove target on rapper as that is very obvious/pointless
"first top-two entry" → "first top 2 entry" since
MOS:NUMBERS suggests consistency with comparative values
"and the first to do so since" → "and their first since"
"while becoming their fifth No. 2 entry and their twelfth top-ten entry overall, respectively" → "while becoming their 5th and 12th number 2 and top 10 entry overall, respectively"
Cite Gaon Music Chart as the publisher for refs 55 and 59 with no wikilinks
Cite Official Charts Company as the publisher for ref 57 with no wikilink
Done
Final comments and verdict
On hold for now as it's a well-researched, but needs quite a few fixes before reaching GA-status. One suggestion I have would be to add an image, since this article has a lot of information so a relevant one should be easy to find for inclusion. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
09:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)reply
✗ Fail I hate to do this but it's been over a week and the nominator has only added a few of the proposed edits, plus they are barely active at WP and the [unreliable source?] template has been planked on two citations of this page. --
Kyle Peake (
talk)
04:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
@
HĐ: The comments given by the previous reviewer seems to be mostly solved now. I only double-checked and also did some revisions on the article that were not done by the previous nominator. I hope you could now continue the review of this article for making it a good article. Thank you so much. Also there were a lot of additional information and revisions added or either removed since the last review, therefore a lot of the comments couldn't be applied on the current state of the article. But I tried to do some of the comments from the previous reviewer. Thank you once again!
LipaCityPH (
talk)
05:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
HĐ: and @
LipaCityPH:, good job on both of you for picking up on the comments from my review of this article earlier this year during the second review process, as it is great to make sure all previously instated issues have been solved so the following review can be smoother and I was going to mention about the review on here until HĐ did! --
K. Peake08:00, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
became an instant fan-favorite This is POV; remove it
What does year-end release mean. Probably you meant "being released by the end of 2019"?
the song appeared in several year-end lists by critics, cited as one of the best K-pop releases of 2019 → "the song was cited as one of the best K-pop songs of 2019 by critics"
@
HĐ: Is there anything I should still revise? All your reviews have been done on the article already. Thank you for reviewing the article. :) If there is anything to change please put it on the comments regarding the corrections. Thank you once again! :)
LipaCityPH (
talk)
17:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)reply
American record producer Andrew Scott, EJAE, and frequent collaborator Cazzi Opeia It's weird to mention the nationality of only one producer... would you like to add the nationality of the other two?
A short explanation on duality sonic concept would be helpful
With the demo version recorded in English by Opeia that eventually leaked on the Internet weeks before the song's release, the lyrics were then rewritten in Korean by songwriter Kenzie, with additional arrangement from producer Druski, and Yoo Young-jin, the latter of which co-produced the group's previous single "Bad Boy" in 2018. This part does not have any source at all
I would specify that the critic Tamar Herman writes for Billboard
As I said earlier, explain what the "Velvet" concept is for those who do not know anything about the group
a tempo of 140 beat-per-minute → "140 beats per minute"
The group's vocal range spanned about 2 octaves → "The group's vocals span two octaves"
A slightly different version of the song was used for the music video, with the chorus having an additional synth line and the pre-chorus including a string melody, while the digital and streaming version omitted these elements →This also does not have a source
Commercial performance
Done
Remove the information regarding the iTunes Stores and digital charts of Korea, per
WP:RECORDCHART. Only keep the information regarding the
Gaon Digital Chart
Write out the numbers 1–9 in word ("one", "two" etc.) per
MOS:NUM
Also, 1st-9th should be written out ("first", "second" etc.)
With this, the song became the group's first top 2 entry in 2019, marking their highest charting release since "Power Up", while becoming their 5th and 12th number 2 and top 10 entry overall, respectively Remove this because this is
original research
and eventually landed as the fifth biggest song and the biggest idol song on the 2020 mid-year issue of Gaon Digital Chart. Remove this because this is also original research
You should explain that the "Digital Chart" is a ranking of songs based on sales+streams; and the "Download Chart" is based on sales only
In addition, it topped the Gaon Download Chart for two weeks, giving the group their sixth chart-topper on the chart, while peaking at number two for two weeks on the component Streaming Chart This does not have any source
The song then rose to number two for three weeks, earning the group their seventh top-five hit. This does not have any source
"Psycho" also attained success outside its home country Remove this since it is not necessary, and also original research
number ninety-nine → number 99
Live
Done
Promotion activities for the song were rather limited comparing to Red Velvet's previous promotion cycles due to Finale being a year-end release This does not have any source
I would remove Celebmix as it is not a reliable source
As stated previously, numbers 1–9 should be written out, numbers from 10 onwards can be kept in number form, as long as they are consistent
Remove Apple Music, Bugs, and Medium, because they are not critical sources
Accolades
Done
Remove due to its massive success on the digital chart because this is
POV
Music video
Done
video director O Is his name "O"? I find it funny...
@
HĐ: I find it unusual and funny as well.. However, that is the name of the director based from the liner notes in the album. Also refer to
Red Velvet videography for the reference of who directed the music video. It will state that it's from the photobook where the liner note is in. Thank you!
LipaCityPH (
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10:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Choreography for the video was created by former 1MILLION choreographer Mina Myoung and choreographer Bailey Sok from Skeleton Crew → you don't really "create" choreography; reword it to "The video was choreographed by Minya Myoung from 1MILLION and Bailey Sok from Skeleton Crew"
Please shorten the synopsis two only 5-6 sentences
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HĐ: I have removed the synopsis and mainly focused on reception. However, if you insist on putting synopsis, I will revert and put the synopsis again with 5-6 sentences like what you said. Sorry once again for the inconvenience and thank you for your time. :)
LipaCityPH (
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13:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Currently in December 2020, the music video has 210 million views Remove this part
Credits, charts, certifications, release history
Done
Looks good overall
Remove the "release history" section because the sources here are about the album's release, and not the single's release
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
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HĐ: Almost all comments were address and I marked them done. Only missing references on the part of the articles are missing. I will fill out and look for proper references supporting the statements and sentences on the page. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you so much for understanding. :)
LipaCityPH (
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13:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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LipaCityPH: Thank you for your progress on the article. I have read the article again, and see some very good improvements. However, there are remaining spots where no source is provided, which I have tagged with {{citation needed}} so that you could indicate where to add source (make sure it is a
reliable source!). I also have trimmed the lead a little bit to make the grammar and wording smoother,
HĐ (
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05:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I also have some more comments that need to be resolved as follows:
Done
Within the first twenty-four hours after its release, "Psycho" topped all five South Korean major digital charts.[8][9] Shortly later, the song achieved both "real-time all-kill" and "certified all-kill" respectively, making Red Velvet the first girl group and second overall for idol group to achieve such status in 2019 Remove this part, because
WP:BADCHARTS specify that "charts specific to a retailer should not be used". And in this case, websites such as Melon are retailers.
I see that you have removed the synopsis section. I think it is okay to include a short paragraph of 4-5 sentences (especially highlighting the Victorian Gothic concept)
Refs 1, 3, 16, 46, 50 are taken from YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, which are unreliable sources. Can you find alternate sources to these? If not, I would recommend removing them altogether.
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HĐ: Hi there! Thank you so much for the effort of giving comments! :) I do appreciate it a lot! I think that I've pretty much done everything in your comments for good article nomination. Please tell me if I missed out anything. Sorry for the inconvenience. Once again, thank you so much!
LipaCityPH (
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06:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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HĐ: Thank you so much for the effort and communication we had in making the article listed under good article. I'll work on future articles soon and hope that you get to review them too! Thank you so much once again! :)
LipaCityPH (
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09:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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Kyle Peake: Thank you for that! I appreciate that much a lot! Thank you once again for the previous comments that you made for the first nomination for good article review. That helped a lot! :)
LipaCityPH (
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09:07, 28 December 2020 (UTC)reply
First performance of Psycho on Vlive comeback special
That SEDaily ref used to support the first sentence in this section does not actually state that psycho was performed or would be performed on Vlive. In fact, no article I could find on Naver states this (and I searched from the very first one dd that mentioned the term 'reve festival finale' all the way down to Dec 24, 2020). What the articles do say is that RV would hold a comeback special on this day for the release, that discuss things related to the album, and even I saw some mention a "live" stage but no song title was specified. Any references to Psycho were about its being the lead single/part of the tracklist, that it would be performed at Gayo, or that it topped realtime music charts. The only thing proving RV performed it during the special is
Vlive's actual upload of the performance but I don't think that can be used as an acceptable reference. --
Carlobunnie (
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06:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Done Comments have been addressed. No articles were published since the release of the live performance was sudden and only the videos posted on V Live were proof. Instead of the link you've put up as a reference, I used another V Live video, not merely focused on the song but the event and video episode it was posted. Thank you for your concern.
LipaCityPH (
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13:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)reply