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Reviewer: J Milburn ( talk · contribs) 20:50, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Mine- people are always so quick to claim these ones! Interesting looking article- one that could well be of interest to those who don't normally care for mushrooms. Review to come soon. J Milburn ( talk) 20:50, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Another great article, with some fantastic illustrations. If you don't have anything lined up after psilocybe at FAC, I think this one would be worth a shot; all I'd like to see there is a little more on how the mushroom is used today by the Mexican groups. J Milburn ( talk) 21:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
After a second look-through, the prose is a smidge choppy in places, but I am sure that this is something that will be worked out. I'm happy to promote. Nice work! J Milburn ( talk) 19:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Some indication of the magnification, e.g. scale bars, would be useful on these images. And, an image without the graticule of the crush mount might be better if there is one available. Thoughts? Graham Colm ( talk) 19:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems to me that some of the information in the section on usage is in fact about other species, or possibly valid for multiple psilocybe species. For example Frank Lipp's account of the Mixe usage does not specify that this was the aztecorum variety, and it seems unlikely that this variety should grow in Oaxaca since the Oaxaca species found by Wasson are P. mexicana and P. wassonii. ·ʍaunus· snunɐw· 22:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I've made a number of linguistic and ethnographic corrections. Wasson's participation in the ritual ingestion of psilocybe was among the Mazatecs not Mixtecs. Nahuatl is the name of the language not the people who are called Nahua. Aztec is another name for the Nahua people, usually only applied when describing the pre-conquest period, it is now no longer used to describe contemporary Nahua peoples. The translation "flesh of the Gods" is a mistranslation which apparently traces all the way back to the chronicle of Toribio de Benavente Motolinia, and which has since been repeated, by Schulte and others. The word teo:tl means "sacred","divine", "mysterious "or "of the Gods", and the word nanacatl means "mushroom", when compounded (the prefixed noun loses its -tl suffix) that gives something like "sacred mushroom". The mistranslation comes from confusing the word nanacatl "mushroom" with the word nacatl "flesh/meat". Similarly the word apipiltzin means "little water children", and us comoposed of a:tl "water" and pipiltzin, the plural diminutive of pilli "child". The spanish usage niñitos does not correspond directly to the Nahuatl word, but Singer's example is. I've also added a reference to Knauth's article in Estudios de Cultura Nahuatl, which could be used for a major expansion of the section on usage. ·ʍaunus· snunɐw· 22:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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It is no longer correct that P aztecorum is known only from high elevations in Mexico. It has been found in the US states of Colorado, Arizona, and Maine, and in Ontario and Quebec, in Canada. 2604:CA00:118:7A3:0:0:61:C3D7 ( talk) 10:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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Mine- people are always so quick to claim these ones! Interesting looking article- one that could well be of interest to those who don't normally care for mushrooms. Review to come soon. J Milburn ( talk) 20:50, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Another great article, with some fantastic illustrations. If you don't have anything lined up after psilocybe at FAC, I think this one would be worth a shot; all I'd like to see there is a little more on how the mushroom is used today by the Mexican groups. J Milburn ( talk) 21:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
After a second look-through, the prose is a smidge choppy in places, but I am sure that this is something that will be worked out. I'm happy to promote. Nice work! J Milburn ( talk) 19:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Some indication of the magnification, e.g. scale bars, would be useful on these images. And, an image without the graticule of the crush mount might be better if there is one available. Thoughts? Graham Colm ( talk) 19:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems to me that some of the information in the section on usage is in fact about other species, or possibly valid for multiple psilocybe species. For example Frank Lipp's account of the Mixe usage does not specify that this was the aztecorum variety, and it seems unlikely that this variety should grow in Oaxaca since the Oaxaca species found by Wasson are P. mexicana and P. wassonii. ·ʍaunus· snunɐw· 22:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I've made a number of linguistic and ethnographic corrections. Wasson's participation in the ritual ingestion of psilocybe was among the Mazatecs not Mixtecs. Nahuatl is the name of the language not the people who are called Nahua. Aztec is another name for the Nahua people, usually only applied when describing the pre-conquest period, it is now no longer used to describe contemporary Nahua peoples. The translation "flesh of the Gods" is a mistranslation which apparently traces all the way back to the chronicle of Toribio de Benavente Motolinia, and which has since been repeated, by Schulte and others. The word teo:tl means "sacred","divine", "mysterious "or "of the Gods", and the word nanacatl means "mushroom", when compounded (the prefixed noun loses its -tl suffix) that gives something like "sacred mushroom". The mistranslation comes from confusing the word nanacatl "mushroom" with the word nacatl "flesh/meat". Similarly the word apipiltzin means "little water children", and us comoposed of a:tl "water" and pipiltzin, the plural diminutive of pilli "child". The spanish usage niñitos does not correspond directly to the Nahuatl word, but Singer's example is. I've also added a reference to Knauth's article in Estudios de Cultura Nahuatl, which could be used for a major expansion of the section on usage. ·ʍaunus· snunɐw· 22:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
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It is no longer correct that P aztecorum is known only from high elevations in Mexico. It has been found in the US states of Colorado, Arizona, and Maine, and in Ontario and Quebec, in Canada. 2604:CA00:118:7A3:0:0:61:C3D7 ( talk) 10:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)