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This article had been overly cited. Where three lines consecutively appeared to have the same citation, all were given separate references. I have chosen the citations at the end of a consecutive occurrence like at the end of the three lines or the end of the paragraph. An article should not be overly cited. Arun Reginald ( talk · contribs) 18:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I have assessed this article (revised once) and have established that this article is properly referenced, has sections and a LEAD and is free of grammatical errors, however, readability is an issue in its own. This article although lacks supporting images and isn't concise enough. It needs more information aimed at achieving a higher quality level. Arun Reginald ( talk · contribs) 06:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
A mistake was done done in the History section. The previous sentence was:
These were well-developed and attracted both wealthy clients and those looking for singers and actresses.
It was changed to:
These were well-developed and attracted both wealthy clients and those looking for other savoury pleasures like listening to music and observing dance forms which were usually associated with prostitution
This change is unsourced and wrong because during 1940s Pakistani society was very conservative and women from respected families were generally avoided profession like acting etc. During that time the performing arts industry used the prostitutes to work as actress. This is not related to prostitution, in fact this is what the talent hunters did. I have changed it and this is what the reference is saying. Gangoli, Geetanjali & Nicole Westmarland (2006), International Approaches to Prostitution: Law and Policy in Europe and Asia Page: 142.
After 1947, Pakistan inherited the historical red-light areas in Lahore and Multan. These were well-developed, with a reputation that attracted not only rich clients, but also talent hunters looking for actors and singers.
Thank you for all your efforts to improve the language quality, fix grammatical errors and thus helping it to promote B-class in WikiProject Pakistan, but please do not change the meaning of the sentence. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 09:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at reviewing an article, so I will start with a comment here rather than directly editing the article.
The key reference for this article is incomplete, and therefore somewhat misleading. All of the footnotes attributed to Gangoli and Westmarland (2006) should more specifically cite Saeed, Fouzia Good women, bad women: prostitution in Pakistan in Gangoli and Westerland pp 141-164.
In addition, there are several lines in the wiki article that are word-for word the same as in the original text. There are footnotes, and when modified, will identify Dr. Fouzia Saeed as the original source, but I am uncertain of the propriety of this approach.
I look forward to guidance on how best to proceed.
Pakphile ( talk) 14:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Since there were no comments, I have changed the references, added a cite that was needed (Saeed 2001), and eliminated one that is totally incorrect (Singh)...prostitutes did NOT pick up dancing after Zia made consensual sex illegal, in fact, the traditional dancing girl is dying out because of the change in law. Pakphile ( talk) 05:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I removed a photo from the article that identified a woman as a sex worker. This is a WP:BLP violation. The comments on that particular photo's page speculate that the two women in the photo were prostitutes and that another man was a pimp. Photo is not from a reliable source, like a newspaper story about these people that specifically identifies them and their professions. Certainly this doesn't pass BLP muster. Tempshill ( talk) 23:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The original research implication is disputed but the iullustration clearly falls foul of Wikipedia:Image use policy#Privacy rights and it is pretty clear we're not allowed to use that photo without a model release for such use. We might be okay for the original description but not used in that article. Commons:Commons:Photographs of identifiable people has a fairly explicit bit about this use. So I'll go and remove it under this. Dmcq ( talk) 14:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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This article had been overly cited. Where three lines consecutively appeared to have the same citation, all were given separate references. I have chosen the citations at the end of a consecutive occurrence like at the end of the three lines or the end of the paragraph. An article should not be overly cited. Arun Reginald ( talk · contribs) 18:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I have assessed this article (revised once) and have established that this article is properly referenced, has sections and a LEAD and is free of grammatical errors, however, readability is an issue in its own. This article although lacks supporting images and isn't concise enough. It needs more information aimed at achieving a higher quality level. Arun Reginald ( talk · contribs) 06:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
A mistake was done done in the History section. The previous sentence was:
These were well-developed and attracted both wealthy clients and those looking for singers and actresses.
It was changed to:
These were well-developed and attracted both wealthy clients and those looking for other savoury pleasures like listening to music and observing dance forms which were usually associated with prostitution
This change is unsourced and wrong because during 1940s Pakistani society was very conservative and women from respected families were generally avoided profession like acting etc. During that time the performing arts industry used the prostitutes to work as actress. This is not related to prostitution, in fact this is what the talent hunters did. I have changed it and this is what the reference is saying. Gangoli, Geetanjali & Nicole Westmarland (2006), International Approaches to Prostitution: Law and Policy in Europe and Asia Page: 142.
After 1947, Pakistan inherited the historical red-light areas in Lahore and Multan. These were well-developed, with a reputation that attracted not only rich clients, but also talent hunters looking for actors and singers.
Thank you for all your efforts to improve the language quality, fix grammatical errors and thus helping it to promote B-class in WikiProject Pakistan, but please do not change the meaning of the sentence. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 09:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at reviewing an article, so I will start with a comment here rather than directly editing the article.
The key reference for this article is incomplete, and therefore somewhat misleading. All of the footnotes attributed to Gangoli and Westmarland (2006) should more specifically cite Saeed, Fouzia Good women, bad women: prostitution in Pakistan in Gangoli and Westerland pp 141-164.
In addition, there are several lines in the wiki article that are word-for word the same as in the original text. There are footnotes, and when modified, will identify Dr. Fouzia Saeed as the original source, but I am uncertain of the propriety of this approach.
I look forward to guidance on how best to proceed.
Pakphile ( talk) 14:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Since there were no comments, I have changed the references, added a cite that was needed (Saeed 2001), and eliminated one that is totally incorrect (Singh)...prostitutes did NOT pick up dancing after Zia made consensual sex illegal, in fact, the traditional dancing girl is dying out because of the change in law. Pakphile ( talk) 05:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I removed a photo from the article that identified a woman as a sex worker. This is a WP:BLP violation. The comments on that particular photo's page speculate that the two women in the photo were prostitutes and that another man was a pimp. Photo is not from a reliable source, like a newspaper story about these people that specifically identifies them and their professions. Certainly this doesn't pass BLP muster. Tempshill ( talk) 23:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The original research implication is disputed but the iullustration clearly falls foul of Wikipedia:Image use policy#Privacy rights and it is pretty clear we're not allowed to use that photo without a model release for such use. We might be okay for the original description but not used in that article. Commons:Commons:Photographs of identifiable people has a fairly explicit bit about this use. So I'll go and remove it under this. Dmcq ( talk) 14:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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