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Ok, the first thing that you need to do is introduce the subject. The lead jumps right into the meat of the article topic, but doesn't explain what Watchmen is. See the opening paragraph for
Characters of Smallville? It begins by explaining what the show is in the first couple lines. So, I would start by explaining what the story of Watchment is. Since this page is about the task of translating the comic to the silver screen, and not soley just production info on the film, it would be important to identify that original concept (i.e. a 12 issue graphic novel). After introducing your primary subject, I would go into identifying what this article is about, and then just summarize each of the parts. Here is a quick example, that could probably be tweaked over time.
Watchmen is a twelve-issue comic book limited series created by writer Alan Moore, artist Dave Gibbons, and colorist John Higgins. The series was published by DC Comics between 1986 and 1987. The storyline focuses on the struggles of the protagonists as an investigation into the murder of a government sponsored superhero pulls them out of retirement and eventually leads them to confront a plot to stave off nuclear war by killing millions of people. The graphic novel's film rights were acquired by producer Lawrence Gordon in 1986, but the film adaptation was met with problems over the course of the next twenty-three years, until finally being adapted by Zack Snyder in 2009.
Ok, so this can be used to introduce your primary subject. I would then use subsequent paragraphs to summarize each basic point where the studio failed to get the film off the ground, what changes were made, the final success and then the litigation afterwards (along with the outcome). Work up a couple of follow up paragraphs for the lead, that summarize each section of the article, and I'll take a look and see what can be tweaked/reworded/added/deleted.
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this should go to wp:gan. Nergaal ( talk) 22:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: María ( habla con migo) 20:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'll be reviewing this article for GA-status. I'm a huge fan of the graphic novel and the film adaptation, so hopefully we can get this article to where it needs to be. :) Here is how it stands against the criteria:
Overall, the article is excellent; well written, well researched and well presented. I do, however, see some confusion as to what this article is supposed to be about -- as it is now, the article's title does not differentiate between the development for the original comic series and the film, and the lead does not initially make this clear, either. Because the lead is supposed to be a summary of the entire article (per WP:LEAD), the current description of the series in the first paragraph is out of place and unnecessary. I suggest making it clear not only in the title of the article itself, but also in the first sentence, that this page is about the development of the Watchmen film. Perhaps move the page to Development of Watchmen film adaptation, or something similar, and refocus the lead with a descriptive, engaging lead sentence describing the topic at hand. If a description of the source material is necessary, than it needs to also be described in the article itself, per lead guidelines.
Everything else looks fine; it's a very interesting article, and a good counterpart to the film's page. I'm going to put the nomination on hold for a week until my concerns have been addressed. I'm mainly concerned about the status of the lead and the article's title, although of course source quality, consistency and formatting should be addressed before I'm ready to promote. Let me know if you have any questions, María ( habla con migo) 20:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
← I also have to add that this sub-article was inappropriately split from Watchmen (film). Reviewing the film's main article, the "Development" section (which really should be "Production" section) does not have a summary section of this sub-article. This is a serious misstep because there is no overview of the actual filmmaking involved. I hope that the splitter/creator will fix this issue, especially with the film's main article being a Good Article. Erik ( talk | contribs) 18:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Page moved to Production of Watchmen (film). Vegaswikian ( talk) 23:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Production of Watchmen → Production of the Watchmen film – Or somesuch. Watchmen is about the comic, so this title implies that it's about making the comic (which would be an interesting article), but the film is at Watchmen (film). Thoughts? — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved as requested and per WP:PRECISION. When title qualifiers are needed, we have consistent ones to use, but we don't apply them where the unqualified title is sufficient just for consistency. If fuller description is needed in the title to match its WP:COMMONNAME, it should be "Film production of Watchmen" or "Production of the film Watchmen" or something, but I don't think the common name is different.-- JHunterJ ( talk) 13:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Production of Watchmen (film) →
Production of Watchmen – This article was moved to the current title (with the "(film)" disambiguator) in a previous discussion. I am suggesting that this article be moved back to the original title for two reasons. Firstly,
Wikipedia's guidelines regarding the decision to disambiguate state that article titles should only be provided with disambiguators when "there is more than one existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead" (italics mine). There are no other existing Wikipedia articles that could be referred to by the title "Production of Watchmen," therefore the guidelines are against disambiguation. Secondly, the current title (with the disambiguator) is more misleading than the original title, because it suggests that there is a film called Production of Watchmen. The disambiguator does not apply to the entire title, and it does not serve the purpose of disambiguating. The original title should be restored.
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Ok, the first thing that you need to do is introduce the subject. The lead jumps right into the meat of the article topic, but doesn't explain what Watchmen is. See the opening paragraph for
Characters of Smallville? It begins by explaining what the show is in the first couple lines. So, I would start by explaining what the story of Watchment is. Since this page is about the task of translating the comic to the silver screen, and not soley just production info on the film, it would be important to identify that original concept (i.e. a 12 issue graphic novel). After introducing your primary subject, I would go into identifying what this article is about, and then just summarize each of the parts. Here is a quick example, that could probably be tweaked over time.
Watchmen is a twelve-issue comic book limited series created by writer Alan Moore, artist Dave Gibbons, and colorist John Higgins. The series was published by DC Comics between 1986 and 1987. The storyline focuses on the struggles of the protagonists as an investigation into the murder of a government sponsored superhero pulls them out of retirement and eventually leads them to confront a plot to stave off nuclear war by killing millions of people. The graphic novel's film rights were acquired by producer Lawrence Gordon in 1986, but the film adaptation was met with problems over the course of the next twenty-three years, until finally being adapted by Zack Snyder in 2009.
Ok, so this can be used to introduce your primary subject. I would then use subsequent paragraphs to summarize each basic point where the studio failed to get the film off the ground, what changes were made, the final success and then the litigation afterwards (along with the outcome). Work up a couple of follow up paragraphs for the lead, that summarize each section of the article, and I'll take a look and see what can be tweaked/reworded/added/deleted.
BIGNOLE
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this should go to wp:gan. Nergaal ( talk) 22:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: María ( habla con migo) 20:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'll be reviewing this article for GA-status. I'm a huge fan of the graphic novel and the film adaptation, so hopefully we can get this article to where it needs to be. :) Here is how it stands against the criteria:
Overall, the article is excellent; well written, well researched and well presented. I do, however, see some confusion as to what this article is supposed to be about -- as it is now, the article's title does not differentiate between the development for the original comic series and the film, and the lead does not initially make this clear, either. Because the lead is supposed to be a summary of the entire article (per WP:LEAD), the current description of the series in the first paragraph is out of place and unnecessary. I suggest making it clear not only in the title of the article itself, but also in the first sentence, that this page is about the development of the Watchmen film. Perhaps move the page to Development of Watchmen film adaptation, or something similar, and refocus the lead with a descriptive, engaging lead sentence describing the topic at hand. If a description of the source material is necessary, than it needs to also be described in the article itself, per lead guidelines.
Everything else looks fine; it's a very interesting article, and a good counterpart to the film's page. I'm going to put the nomination on hold for a week until my concerns have been addressed. I'm mainly concerned about the status of the lead and the article's title, although of course source quality, consistency and formatting should be addressed before I'm ready to promote. Let me know if you have any questions, María ( habla con migo) 20:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
← I also have to add that this sub-article was inappropriately split from Watchmen (film). Reviewing the film's main article, the "Development" section (which really should be "Production" section) does not have a summary section of this sub-article. This is a serious misstep because there is no overview of the actual filmmaking involved. I hope that the splitter/creator will fix this issue, especially with the film's main article being a Good Article. Erik ( talk | contribs) 18:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Page moved to Production of Watchmen (film). Vegaswikian ( talk) 23:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Production of Watchmen → Production of the Watchmen film – Or somesuch. Watchmen is about the comic, so this title implies that it's about making the comic (which would be an interesting article), but the film is at Watchmen (film). Thoughts? — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved as requested and per WP:PRECISION. When title qualifiers are needed, we have consistent ones to use, but we don't apply them where the unqualified title is sufficient just for consistency. If fuller description is needed in the title to match its WP:COMMONNAME, it should be "Film production of Watchmen" or "Production of the film Watchmen" or something, but I don't think the common name is different.-- JHunterJ ( talk) 13:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Production of Watchmen (film) →
Production of Watchmen – This article was moved to the current title (with the "(film)" disambiguator) in a previous discussion. I am suggesting that this article be moved back to the original title for two reasons. Firstly,
Wikipedia's guidelines regarding the decision to disambiguate state that article titles should only be provided with disambiguators when "there is more than one existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead" (italics mine). There are no other existing Wikipedia articles that could be referred to by the title "Production of Watchmen," therefore the guidelines are against disambiguation. Secondly, the current title (with the disambiguator) is more misleading than the original title, because it suggests that there is a film called Production of Watchmen. The disambiguator does not apply to the entire title, and it does not serve the purpose of disambiguating. The original title should be restored.
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