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Someone should mention her topless cameo in the movie Mallrats, but I'm far too busy right now. Maybe you can do it instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.38.59.161 ( talk) 01:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I moved the following unsourced information here from the article pending sourcing for it:
- birthdate = December 7, 1955.
- birthplace = Fort Dix, New Jersey.
- Barnes was asked to be a guest on Somers' short-lived talk show, but she turned down the offer.
- She has been married to actor Ted Monte since 2003.
Nightscream ( talk) 01:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I've always thought the IMDB was a reliable source, oh well. Could we have somekinda 'tag' at the article's entry, to show 'why' there's no birthdate/birthplace? That way, editors won't make the mistake I did. GoodDay ( talk) 01:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I was also told IMDB is unreliable, especially on age-of-actors issues. There are several sources for her having been born on December 7 in Fort Dix. The sources vary, however, on the year: 1955 or 1952. What the deuce do we do with that? - Rrius ( talk) 02:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I have deleted that Priscilla Barnes is still insisting the Penthouse photos are not her because she is no longer denying it. Regardless of any public statements, she admitted it in a California district court during the legal action she undertook to prevent Penthouse from using the photos with her real name. The result was Penthouse has full use of the photos but must use them under Priscilla's pseudonym Joanna Witty. Here's the web site for the legal action: http://www.precydent.com/citation/792/F.2d/943 TL36 ( talk) 04:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I modified the paragraph about her Penthouse case as the way it was written did not agree with the what was in the cited source. I personally remember when the controversy occurred, and it was a bit of a soap opera, but I cannot remember if they ever republished her photos using her original pseudonym or another one.
The issue about her age was rather strange. I assume since whenever this was originally done the original source changed its info, as both AllMovie and IMDb give the same birth year of 1955. I don't know why anybody would believe she was born in 1958 - that just made no sense. It's kind of strange that up above back in 2009 there was a debate on whether she was born in 1952, which makes more sense to me.
I hope nobody reverts it back to old way where it has both years of birth. But then, this is Wikipedia...__ 209.179.36.56 ( talk) 22:55, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
In the previous version that Rms125 seeks to keep, the first line in the lede reads, "Priscilla Barnes (born December 7, 1955 or 1958; sources differ)[1][5] is an American actress,...". There are two issue here, whether she was born in '55 or '58, and the verification of it. Rms125 insists upon leaving both years there (as well as in the Infobox) because he claims the year of birth is disputed. The "dispute" apparently exists, so far as I can see and for which he has heretofore refused to discuss, only in his mind. If one hovers the cursor over the footnote "1" & "5", it will show they point to AllMovie.com and Internet Movie Database, respectively. BOTH sources, I repeat BOTH sources give the YoB as 1955, a fact that Rms125 would have known if, oh i don't know, actually checked them for himself, you know the way responsible and competent Wikieditors do before they make any editing decision. So, as far as I can see, there is no dispute on the year of her birth, unless Rms125 has access to some information that he has for some reason kept to himself.
The second point here is that even if there were a source to show the 1958 YoB we wouldn't be able to use it. I don't know what Rms125's background in research is, but back in covered wagon days I can remember my historiography prof saying that a researcher is like a detective looking for clues. Just because you find something it doesn't mean it's right, and you shouldn't use it if the other information doesn't support it. (He also used a jigsaw puzzle analogy, in that just because you have an empty space you shouldn't force a loose piece into that space just because you want it to go there.) Now if you had actually read and understood the article, you would have realized the following: if in fact she had been born in 1958, this would mean she was underage when she worked at a Hollywood nightclub and when she posed for Penthouse. So Rms125, are you willing to make the potentially libelous claim that she lied about her age and provided false documents, which I'm sure is against the law? As i understand it, libelous claims are against WP:BLP and is therefore not allowed.
I also tried to change the beginning of the Early Life section where it reads, "Barnes was born December 7 (some sources indicate 1955 and others 1958) in Fort Dix, ..." to my edit, "Barnes was born in Fort Dix,...". Since the Dob is already established in the lede and info box I believe it's unnecessary to restate it again in the article. But for for some reason Rms125 insists upon it remaining there - perhaps he will be good enough to provide an explanation on why he thinks it absolutely necessary for it to remain there. Yours sincerely, __ 209.179.36.56 ( talk) 20:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Her high school yearbook is on classmates.com and she's listed as a senior of Antelope Valley High School in 1972. This adds up to around a 1954/1955 birth year.
https://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/4182716232?page=115
I know it can't be used as a source to confirm her exact age. I just wanted to point this out. Kcj5062 ( talk) 07:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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Someone should mention her topless cameo in the movie Mallrats, but I'm far too busy right now. Maybe you can do it instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.38.59.161 ( talk) 01:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I moved the following unsourced information here from the article pending sourcing for it:
- birthdate = December 7, 1955.
- birthplace = Fort Dix, New Jersey.
- Barnes was asked to be a guest on Somers' short-lived talk show, but she turned down the offer.
- She has been married to actor Ted Monte since 2003.
Nightscream ( talk) 01:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I've always thought the IMDB was a reliable source, oh well. Could we have somekinda 'tag' at the article's entry, to show 'why' there's no birthdate/birthplace? That way, editors won't make the mistake I did. GoodDay ( talk) 01:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I was also told IMDB is unreliable, especially on age-of-actors issues. There are several sources for her having been born on December 7 in Fort Dix. The sources vary, however, on the year: 1955 or 1952. What the deuce do we do with that? - Rrius ( talk) 02:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I have deleted that Priscilla Barnes is still insisting the Penthouse photos are not her because she is no longer denying it. Regardless of any public statements, she admitted it in a California district court during the legal action she undertook to prevent Penthouse from using the photos with her real name. The result was Penthouse has full use of the photos but must use them under Priscilla's pseudonym Joanna Witty. Here's the web site for the legal action: http://www.precydent.com/citation/792/F.2d/943 TL36 ( talk) 04:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I modified the paragraph about her Penthouse case as the way it was written did not agree with the what was in the cited source. I personally remember when the controversy occurred, and it was a bit of a soap opera, but I cannot remember if they ever republished her photos using her original pseudonym or another one.
The issue about her age was rather strange. I assume since whenever this was originally done the original source changed its info, as both AllMovie and IMDb give the same birth year of 1955. I don't know why anybody would believe she was born in 1958 - that just made no sense. It's kind of strange that up above back in 2009 there was a debate on whether she was born in 1952, which makes more sense to me.
I hope nobody reverts it back to old way where it has both years of birth. But then, this is Wikipedia...__ 209.179.36.56 ( talk) 22:55, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
In the previous version that Rms125 seeks to keep, the first line in the lede reads, "Priscilla Barnes (born December 7, 1955 or 1958; sources differ)[1][5] is an American actress,...". There are two issue here, whether she was born in '55 or '58, and the verification of it. Rms125 insists upon leaving both years there (as well as in the Infobox) because he claims the year of birth is disputed. The "dispute" apparently exists, so far as I can see and for which he has heretofore refused to discuss, only in his mind. If one hovers the cursor over the footnote "1" & "5", it will show they point to AllMovie.com and Internet Movie Database, respectively. BOTH sources, I repeat BOTH sources give the YoB as 1955, a fact that Rms125 would have known if, oh i don't know, actually checked them for himself, you know the way responsible and competent Wikieditors do before they make any editing decision. So, as far as I can see, there is no dispute on the year of her birth, unless Rms125 has access to some information that he has for some reason kept to himself.
The second point here is that even if there were a source to show the 1958 YoB we wouldn't be able to use it. I don't know what Rms125's background in research is, but back in covered wagon days I can remember my historiography prof saying that a researcher is like a detective looking for clues. Just because you find something it doesn't mean it's right, and you shouldn't use it if the other information doesn't support it. (He also used a jigsaw puzzle analogy, in that just because you have an empty space you shouldn't force a loose piece into that space just because you want it to go there.) Now if you had actually read and understood the article, you would have realized the following: if in fact she had been born in 1958, this would mean she was underage when she worked at a Hollywood nightclub and when she posed for Penthouse. So Rms125, are you willing to make the potentially libelous claim that she lied about her age and provided false documents, which I'm sure is against the law? As i understand it, libelous claims are against WP:BLP and is therefore not allowed.
I also tried to change the beginning of the Early Life section where it reads, "Barnes was born December 7 (some sources indicate 1955 and others 1958) in Fort Dix, ..." to my edit, "Barnes was born in Fort Dix,...". Since the Dob is already established in the lede and info box I believe it's unnecessary to restate it again in the article. But for for some reason Rms125 insists upon it remaining there - perhaps he will be good enough to provide an explanation on why he thinks it absolutely necessary for it to remain there. Yours sincerely, __ 209.179.36.56 ( talk) 20:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Her high school yearbook is on classmates.com and she's listed as a senior of Antelope Valley High School in 1972. This adds up to around a 1954/1955 birth year.
https://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/4182716232?page=115
I know it can't be used as a source to confirm her exact age. I just wanted to point this out. Kcj5062 ( talk) 07:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)