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WP:CAT/R#Sexuality For a dead person, there must be a
verified consensus of reliable published sources that the description is appropriate.
For example, while some sources have claimed that
William Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, there is not a sufficient consensus among scholars to support categorizing him as such. Similarly, a living person who is caught in a gay prostitution scandal, but continues to assert their heterosexuality, can not be categorized as gay.
Categories that make allegations about sexuality – such as "closeted homosexuals" or "people suspected to be gay" – are not acceptable under any circumstances. If such a category is created, it should be immediately depopulated and deleted. Note that as similar categories of this type have actually been attempted in the past, they may be speedily deleted (as a
G4) and do not require another debate at
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
User: Pgarret(talk)01:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC).reply
We need
reliable sources for category claims. It may well be that such sources are indeed available and you can list them in the article - but if not, then who is saying that these people fit the bill? Just deciding that you think they fit the description is
Original Research - and that's not allowed here. I need to see a few reliable little blue number in each categorization that links to a reference document that can be examined to confirm Basic Academic rigour
Most people that are listed in the misleading LGBT categorization can also be connected with the following:
-
Pansexual- A person who is fluid in sexual orientation and/or gender or sex identity.
-
Polyamory- is the practice of having multiple open, honest love relationships.
-
Affectional orientation - To holders of this view, one's orientation is defined by whom one is predisposed to fall in love with, whether or not one desires that person sexually
-
MSM- are
male persons who engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex, regardless of how they identify themselves; many men choose not to (or cannot for other reasons) accept
sexual identities of
homosexual or
bisexual.
-
Situational sexual behaviour is
sexual behavior of a kind that is different from that which the person normally exhibits, due to a social environment that in :some way permits, encourages, or compels those acts.
Many people change their sexual behavior depending on the situation or at different points in their life.[1] For example, men and women in a university may engage in
bisexual activities, but only in that environment. Experimentation of this sort is more common among
adolescents (or just after), both male and female. Some colloquialisms for this trend include "
heteroflexible",[2] "BUG" (Bisexual Until Graduation), or "
LUG" (Lesbian Until Graduation).[3]
A report from the
Centre for Addiction and Mental Health states, "For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time".[4] "There . . . [was, as of 1995,] essentially no research on the longitudinal stability of sexual orientation over the adult life span. . . . [I]t [was] . . . still an unanswered question whether . . . [the] measure [of "the complex components of sexual orientation as differentiated from other aspects of sexual identity at one point in time"] will predict future behavior or orientation. Certainly, it [was] . . . not a good predictor of past behavior and self-identity, given the developmental process common to most gay men and lesbians (i.e., denial of homosexual interests and heterosexual experimentation prior to the coming-out process)."[5]
Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale,[6] attempts to describe a person's sexual history or episodes of his or her sexual activity at a given time. Ituses a scale from 0, meaning exclusively
heterosexual, to 6, meaning exclusively
homosexual.
The Source?
'Michael Bloch, James Lees-Milne: The Life (John Murray, 2009)
Barrister and budding author, Michael Bloch is not a historian or an academic authority to hold up this house of cards.Does he posses the Scholarly pedigree to fit the bill as the man to say what Prince Pierre of Monaco is what or not?
References
^Rosario, M., Schrimshaw, E., Hunter, J., & Braun, L. (2006, February). Sexual identity development among lesbian, gay, and bisexual youths: Consistency and change over time. Journal of Sex Research, 43(1), 46–58. Retrieved February 8, 2011.
^Thompson, E.M.; Morgan, E.M. (2008). ""Mostly straight" young women: Variations in sexual behavior and identity development". Developmental Psychology. 44 (1): 15–21.
doi:
10.1037/0012-1649.44.1.15.
PMID18194001.
It is proven that he was a bisexual. Michael Bloch based his biography on conclusive evidence based on Lees Milne friendship with the prince and their correspondence.
90.35.178.50 (
talk)
01:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply
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WP:CAT/R#Sexuality For a dead person, there must be a
verified consensus of reliable published sources that the description is appropriate.
For example, while some sources have claimed that
William Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, there is not a sufficient consensus among scholars to support categorizing him as such. Similarly, a living person who is caught in a gay prostitution scandal, but continues to assert their heterosexuality, can not be categorized as gay.
Categories that make allegations about sexuality – such as "closeted homosexuals" or "people suspected to be gay" – are not acceptable under any circumstances. If such a category is created, it should be immediately depopulated and deleted. Note that as similar categories of this type have actually been attempted in the past, they may be speedily deleted (as a
G4) and do not require another debate at
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
User: Pgarret(talk)01:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC).reply
We need
reliable sources for category claims. It may well be that such sources are indeed available and you can list them in the article - but if not, then who is saying that these people fit the bill? Just deciding that you think they fit the description is
Original Research - and that's not allowed here. I need to see a few reliable little blue number in each categorization that links to a reference document that can be examined to confirm Basic Academic rigour
Most people that are listed in the misleading LGBT categorization can also be connected with the following:
-
Pansexual- A person who is fluid in sexual orientation and/or gender or sex identity.
-
Polyamory- is the practice of having multiple open, honest love relationships.
-
Affectional orientation - To holders of this view, one's orientation is defined by whom one is predisposed to fall in love with, whether or not one desires that person sexually
-
MSM- are
male persons who engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex, regardless of how they identify themselves; many men choose not to (or cannot for other reasons) accept
sexual identities of
homosexual or
bisexual.
-
Situational sexual behaviour is
sexual behavior of a kind that is different from that which the person normally exhibits, due to a social environment that in :some way permits, encourages, or compels those acts.
Many people change their sexual behavior depending on the situation or at different points in their life.[1] For example, men and women in a university may engage in
bisexual activities, but only in that environment. Experimentation of this sort is more common among
adolescents (or just after), both male and female. Some colloquialisms for this trend include "
heteroflexible",[2] "BUG" (Bisexual Until Graduation), or "
LUG" (Lesbian Until Graduation).[3]
A report from the
Centre for Addiction and Mental Health states, "For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time".[4] "There . . . [was, as of 1995,] essentially no research on the longitudinal stability of sexual orientation over the adult life span. . . . [I]t [was] . . . still an unanswered question whether . . . [the] measure [of "the complex components of sexual orientation as differentiated from other aspects of sexual identity at one point in time"] will predict future behavior or orientation. Certainly, it [was] . . . not a good predictor of past behavior and self-identity, given the developmental process common to most gay men and lesbians (i.e., denial of homosexual interests and heterosexual experimentation prior to the coming-out process)."[5]
Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale,[6] attempts to describe a person's sexual history or episodes of his or her sexual activity at a given time. Ituses a scale from 0, meaning exclusively
heterosexual, to 6, meaning exclusively
homosexual.
The Source?
'Michael Bloch, James Lees-Milne: The Life (John Murray, 2009)
Barrister and budding author, Michael Bloch is not a historian or an academic authority to hold up this house of cards.Does he posses the Scholarly pedigree to fit the bill as the man to say what Prince Pierre of Monaco is what or not?
References
^Rosario, M., Schrimshaw, E., Hunter, J., & Braun, L. (2006, February). Sexual identity development among lesbian, gay, and bisexual youths: Consistency and change over time. Journal of Sex Research, 43(1), 46–58. Retrieved February 8, 2011.
^Thompson, E.M.; Morgan, E.M. (2008). ""Mostly straight" young women: Variations in sexual behavior and identity development". Developmental Psychology. 44 (1): 15–21.
doi:
10.1037/0012-1649.44.1.15.
PMID18194001.
It is proven that he was a bisexual. Michael Bloch based his biography on conclusive evidence based on Lees Milne friendship with the prince and their correspondence.
90.35.178.50 (
talk)
01:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)reply