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This can't be true! -- Couter-revolutionary 21:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid it is, last year it was reported in a few British Newspapers Birddrz 23:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
How did they hear about him? His wife is their countries head of state and monarch! Doesn't the much larger Papa New Guinea (sp?) have something similar except with the Queen? YourPTR! 09:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
My apoligies, I confused Vanuatu with Tuvalu! The Queen is head of state of many kingdoms in the region and interestingly, she remains Queen of Fiji despite that state having a republican form of government. Oh and she's not "Queen of England", there is no Queen of England title and there hasn't been since the Scottish and English Crowns were united in the early half of the 17th century. She is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. YourPTR! 19:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
and Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Antigua and Barbuda, The Bahamas, Barbados....etcetcetc 86.161.169.224 ( talk) 20:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
The arrival of US forces during the Second World War saw the emergence of a belief in a mythical messianic figure named John Frum. It was the basis for another indigenous cult to rival the one surrounding Prince Philip. Today, John Frum is both a religion and a political party with a member in Parliament —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.169.224 ( talk) 20:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I am terribly sorry, but to me this whole affair just reeks of urban myth/"benevolent racism". Most of the sources are English tabloids. And even the article in the more respectable Daily Telegraph does not convince me. Is there ANY proof that these islanders REALLY believe that Prince Philip is a god? I think it is more probable that this is just their way to pay respect to their (former) monarch, or even that they found out it is a clever way to get media attention and goods. As long as there is no proof of REAL worshipping, I remain extremely doubtful. -- 91.7.86.78 ( talk) 09:09, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
An interesting article from the BBC provides little more light. Apparently it's quite serious. I can imagine a situation quite similar to this 2000 years ago... "there's people that worship that guy?" -- 98.180.61.208 ( talk) 03:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
This phenomenon has been documented several times. The first reference I can think of, is Christopher Hicthens' book "God is not great". If I remember correctly, he devotes an entire chapter to the creation of religions in this way. He usually cites his sources very accurately. 131.130.16.17 ( talk) 10:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it is definitely quite possible that such a cult exists. Look at the Rastafari belief in Emperor Haile Selassie. They worship him as an incarnation of God, and they live in the Western World.-- Splashen ( talk) 05:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
When he dies the religion becomes extinct... or is Charles going to became a god too? -- 190.55.205.155 ( talk) 04:06, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
The article calls this phenomenon a cargo cult, but the rest of the description does not square with what I understand to be a cargo cult. Could somebody perhaps expand on this?-- 2001:984:5CB7:1:B549:92D1:C480:1479 ( talk) 15:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't think they really believe that Prince Philip is a 'god' in a sense that he is throwing lightnings or turn water in a wine. Article says they believe he is a 'son of spirit', which rather means something akin to folk hero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.43.146.125 ( talk) 19:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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The article uses both "is a divine being" and "was a divine being". I'm not sure which is better. If they believe in his divinity, they might believe he is not dead. I think we ought to pick one or the other and be consistent, but I'm not sure which is better. — BarrelProof ( talk) 18:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
"In 2007, several tribesmen met the duke in person. Flown to the UK for the Channel 4 reality television series Meet the Natives, five tribal leaders had an off-screen meeting with the duke at Windsor Castle where they presented gifts and asked when he would return to Tanna. His reply, as reported by the tribesmen later, was cryptic - "when it turns warm, I will send a message" - but appeared to please them."
"But more importantly, "there has always been the idea that Prince Philip would return some day, either in person or in spiritual form", says Mr Huffman, who adds that some may think his death will finally trigger this eventuality. And so, while the Duke of Edinburgh lies in rest in Windsor Castle, there is the belief that his soul is making its final journey across the waves of the Pacific Ocean to its spiritual home, the island of Tanna - to reside with those who have loved and revered him from afar all these years."Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "Prince Philip movement" ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 14:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Prince Philip Movement → Cult of Prince Philip – or Prince Philip cult or Prince Philip movement (with lowercase 'm'). In a quick review of the cited sources, I do not find a well-accepted name for this religious movement. Thus, the title seems to be a descriptive phrase rather than a proper name. A lowercase 'm' would thus be more sensible. However, the word "movement" also does not seem to provide a very clear identification of the topic. The article says it is a cargo cult. At some risk of a WP:POVTITLE (e.g., per MOS:CULT), using the word "cult" might improve the title's clarity. — BarrelProof ( talk) 18:31, 9 April 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste ( t, e | c, l) 19:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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This can't be true! -- Couter-revolutionary 21:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid it is, last year it was reported in a few British Newspapers Birddrz 23:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
How did they hear about him? His wife is their countries head of state and monarch! Doesn't the much larger Papa New Guinea (sp?) have something similar except with the Queen? YourPTR! 09:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
My apoligies, I confused Vanuatu with Tuvalu! The Queen is head of state of many kingdoms in the region and interestingly, she remains Queen of Fiji despite that state having a republican form of government. Oh and she's not "Queen of England", there is no Queen of England title and there hasn't been since the Scottish and English Crowns were united in the early half of the 17th century. She is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. YourPTR! 19:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
and Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Antigua and Barbuda, The Bahamas, Barbados....etcetcetc 86.161.169.224 ( talk) 20:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
The arrival of US forces during the Second World War saw the emergence of a belief in a mythical messianic figure named John Frum. It was the basis for another indigenous cult to rival the one surrounding Prince Philip. Today, John Frum is both a religion and a political party with a member in Parliament —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.169.224 ( talk) 20:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I am terribly sorry, but to me this whole affair just reeks of urban myth/"benevolent racism". Most of the sources are English tabloids. And even the article in the more respectable Daily Telegraph does not convince me. Is there ANY proof that these islanders REALLY believe that Prince Philip is a god? I think it is more probable that this is just their way to pay respect to their (former) monarch, or even that they found out it is a clever way to get media attention and goods. As long as there is no proof of REAL worshipping, I remain extremely doubtful. -- 91.7.86.78 ( talk) 09:09, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
An interesting article from the BBC provides little more light. Apparently it's quite serious. I can imagine a situation quite similar to this 2000 years ago... "there's people that worship that guy?" -- 98.180.61.208 ( talk) 03:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
This phenomenon has been documented several times. The first reference I can think of, is Christopher Hicthens' book "God is not great". If I remember correctly, he devotes an entire chapter to the creation of religions in this way. He usually cites his sources very accurately. 131.130.16.17 ( talk) 10:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it is definitely quite possible that such a cult exists. Look at the Rastafari belief in Emperor Haile Selassie. They worship him as an incarnation of God, and they live in the Western World.-- Splashen ( talk) 05:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
When he dies the religion becomes extinct... or is Charles going to became a god too? -- 190.55.205.155 ( talk) 04:06, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
The article calls this phenomenon a cargo cult, but the rest of the description does not square with what I understand to be a cargo cult. Could somebody perhaps expand on this?-- 2001:984:5CB7:1:B549:92D1:C480:1479 ( talk) 15:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't think they really believe that Prince Philip is a 'god' in a sense that he is throwing lightnings or turn water in a wine. Article says they believe he is a 'son of spirit', which rather means something akin to folk hero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.43.146.125 ( talk) 19:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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The article uses both "is a divine being" and "was a divine being". I'm not sure which is better. If they believe in his divinity, they might believe he is not dead. I think we ought to pick one or the other and be consistent, but I'm not sure which is better. — BarrelProof ( talk) 18:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
"In 2007, several tribesmen met the duke in person. Flown to the UK for the Channel 4 reality television series Meet the Natives, five tribal leaders had an off-screen meeting with the duke at Windsor Castle where they presented gifts and asked when he would return to Tanna. His reply, as reported by the tribesmen later, was cryptic - "when it turns warm, I will send a message" - but appeared to please them."
"But more importantly, "there has always been the idea that Prince Philip would return some day, either in person or in spiritual form", says Mr Huffman, who adds that some may think his death will finally trigger this eventuality. And so, while the Duke of Edinburgh lies in rest in Windsor Castle, there is the belief that his soul is making its final journey across the waves of the Pacific Ocean to its spiritual home, the island of Tanna - to reside with those who have loved and revered him from afar all these years."Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "Prince Philip movement" ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 14:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Prince Philip Movement → Cult of Prince Philip – or Prince Philip cult or Prince Philip movement (with lowercase 'm'). In a quick review of the cited sources, I do not find a well-accepted name for this religious movement. Thus, the title seems to be a descriptive phrase rather than a proper name. A lowercase 'm' would thus be more sensible. However, the word "movement" also does not seem to provide a very clear identification of the topic. The article says it is a cargo cult. At some risk of a WP:POVTITLE (e.g., per MOS:CULT), using the word "cult" might improve the title's clarity. — BarrelProof ( talk) 18:31, 9 April 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste ( t, e | c, l) 19:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)