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'Barack' is spelled wrong. I'd fix it, but I don't know that this article even needs to exist. Kutera Genesis ( talk) 06:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Merge to Presumptive presidency of Barack Obama as a Transition section? Grsz 11 →Review! 20:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Um, does anyone else see anything wrong with the phrase "2009-present"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.125.103 ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The fourth focus group is known as Lame-duck? Not according to the cited article. Deleted for being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.172.9 ( talk) 17:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
...oops, reverted, after reading the rest of the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.172.9 ( talk) 17:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus for move.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 04:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I think this page should be moved to Barack Obama's first term as President of the United States. And the info on this page be added as the begining section.-- CPacker talk to me 05:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
There are some really bad redirects coming into this article. Presidency of Barack Obama? No. Obama Cabinet? No. Barack Obama's first term as president? No. These articles are irrelevant to the presidential transition, and should be redirected to Presidency of Barack Obama or deleted. Grsz 11 →Review! 01:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
A Cabinet article should ulitmately redirect to a Presidency article, right now it's nothing more than what is here, so I am okay with a redirect here for now. Grsz 11 →Review! 03:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
REDIRECTs created. Case closed. -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 23:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I thought the page looked boring without a picture, so I went out to commons and grabbed this one. If somebody has access to a more appropriate one, it wouldn't hurt my feelings to use it <grin>. Cmichael ( talk) 21:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your intent but, quite frankly, a picture is worth a thousand little blue boxes. That particular image illustrates the gist of this article perfectly. How can we fix this to everyone's satisfaction? Cmichael ( talk) 03:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Maybe use an image of the PIC, similar to: http://pic2009.inauguralcollectibles.com/products/Inaugural_Flag_Logo_Button.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.53.43 ( talk) 16:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a period rife with rumor about potential office-holders, offers, declined offers, interest, lack of interest in positions, policy agendas or lack of agendas, and so on. If a name or statement appears without citations to reliable sources supporting statements about the individual, the names and statements are subject to removal for lack of verifiable support in the article.
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Isn't reportedly a word to avoid? It's used several times and jars the flow a bit. Can someone rewrite these instead? -- Banjeboi 01:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
While I'm not certain that this flow chart adheres to Wikipedia guidelines, I thought I would post it here to see what other editors think. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/11/11/al-gore-colin-powell-caroline-kennedy-in-obamas-administration.html - Classicfilms ( talk) 01:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Someone decided it would be best to eliminate the entire prospective administration. I suggest it is readded. Also the following link's subject is really being considered for the job mentioned in the article. This definetly should be added. [1]
May I remind everyone that during the primaries we had 2 articles speculating on running-mates?
Moderate2008 ( talk) 00:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I've restored the section. It's overwhelmingly important in order for this article to be comprehensive. It's well-sourced, though some judgement needed: we can't/shouldn't add everybody that's mentioned, but it is important to have a background. Grsz 11 →Review! 04:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
This may be the most appropriate Obama article for the following "See also": Citizenship lawsuits. Anyone think another Obama article would be more appropriate?
This "See Also" has been removed from the 2008 campaign article on the grounds that it occurred after the election. [2] Ferrylodge ( talk) 22:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
another lawsuit but this one will be different http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to discuss this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.105.146 ( talk) 04:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the table of "Appointees/nominees (confirmed)" include any of the cabinet posts? None of them are as yet named by the Obama transition team itself. These are all still rumored and 'named' by 'unnamed sources'. So why are we including them in a table of "confirmed" nominees? Lestatdelc ( talk) 01:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there a way to fix the nominee table so the article text doesn't butt up against it? Lestatdelc ( talk) 04:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Lestatdelc- You deleted the info-box title link I made to the Wiki's own page on the Cabinet, because it was "improper". OK, FMI (For _MY_ Information) where are these "improper" rules listed?
BTW, the main reason why I was trying to establish the link was I wanted to see what other cabinet positions remained to be selected. I _HIGHLY_ suggest that you copy and paste in the table that you have already created in your own "Sandbox". —Preceding unsigned comment added by LP-mn ( talk • contribs) 02:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
This is an area that is fraught with poorly-sourced speculation and POV. Cites don't mean much if they refer to someone's overwrought speculation:
"He is likely, in any case, to issue a series of executive orders within days of his inauguration, including a reversal of Bush-era executive orders restricting funding to family planning (including abortion) services and stem-cell research.[52]";
none of which is actually supported, by the article cited, as to any specific action to which the Obama transition team has yet expressed any intentions. This whole section is problematic, isn't it? Steveozone ( talk) 05:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I've run into quite a few stories on security clearances, vetting and "the questionnaire" but this topic but not here. This search shows up a bunch of interesting WP:RS articles. Might do a section unless someone else beats me too it. Carol Moore 00:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC) Carolmooredc
There have been several edits in this table that are not valid.
1. Rahm Emanuel as White House Chief of Staff was announced, not reported. Moved (back?)to announced section.
2. James Jones, Susan Rice, Dennis Blair and Tom Donilon have not yet been announced. There is no section for reported White House/Executive Office of the President staff. Removed entries.
I also question the location of some entries. Should the following positions be considered Cabinet & Cabinet-level agency positions?
1. Deputy Director of the OMB
2. Deputy Secretary of State
3. Deputy White House Chiefs of Staff
—Preceding
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Zmurray ( talk) 15:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Will be the Obama intelligence director. This was reported by both the New York Times and The Times of London. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.120.177.129 ( talk) 04:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Isn't the Chief of Staff a cabinet level position? Should we put it their? If not, why not? - plau ( talk) 12:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
If there is a subsection in the infobox describing the office of the Vice President, shouldn't there be one for the Office of the First Lady. I just spoke with an Obama Iowa staffer whose boss, Jackie Norris, was named Michelle Obama's Chief of Staff. Should we fill in a First Lady section as well as a VP section?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 02:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
The text section needs broken into prose rather than a list that is identical to the template on the right. I haven't read up enough to do it but it should be easy enough for the same person who made the list, whoever that is. Grsz 11 23:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
According to NPR's article U.N. Envoy Nominee Rice Known As Smart, Tough:
"The head of the United Nations Foundation, a Washington-based advocacy group, released a statement praising Rice as well as Obama's decision to make the post of U.N. ambassador a Cabinet-level position once again — as it was during the Clinton years."
The position should most definitely be added back into the infobox template. Lestatdelc Lestatdelc ( talk) 23:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The Associated Press: "During his tenure at the CIA, he said, he thought he should be apolitical so he did not register with a political party. But, he added, 'I consider myself a Republican.'" Just tips me hat but then 〜on thoght bows deeply 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Which is it? There are instances of each on the page. We should pick one and stick with it. Is there a standing policy on this spelling rule? Trojanpony ( talk) 13:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I just want to note that I am using the skin called "Modern" and the table of appointments does not look right. The columns appear as staggered tiers below one another. They aren't all flush next to each other in a nice box.c ( talk) 09:21, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Anybody know whether Dr. Gates needn't re-nomination, rather simply stays on under Barack's/his discretion -- no Senate reconfirmation? Just tips me hat but then 〜on thought bows deeply … 07:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone just deleted the "Defense Agenda" section with the comment "does not compute." I don't understand. I rolled it back. The section is sourced, and clearly reflects the source. The defense agenda is clearly an important part of the transition efforts. If you'd like to delete it again, I'd appreciate a discussion here first. Thanks. Cmichael ( talk) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Why was the citizenship conspiracy part deleted? NYyankees51 ( talk) 15:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find a good reference regarding the need for another Saxbe fix to appoint Ken Salazar? This article, his article and Saxbe fix could all use one.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
"Sen. Ken Salazar is poised to see a bump in salary as the country's next Interior secretary, but he won't be making as much money as his predecessor, Dirk Kempthorne. The same holds true for Rep. Hilda Solis, Barack Obama's choice for Labor secretary.... But Congress is going to have slice the Interior and Labor secretaries' pay in order to comply with the obscure emoluments clause of the Constitution, which prohibits sitting lawmakers from being appointed to positions that saw a pay increase during their terms." -- Congress to cut Cabinet salaries -- again, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/19/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4676697.shtml TJRC ( talk) 22:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I just happened to stumble upon Salazar's Saxbe fix; it's S. J. Res. 3: [6]. Passed in the Senate January 6; and in the House January 7. [7] TJRC ( talk) 00:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I made a separate article for the Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration. Feel free to come help out. Also, if you know any places that this should be linked to add the link.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 21:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
We've been having a little discussion about the location of the transition headquarters within the edit notes. I think we should move that discussion here. I have argued that transition headquarters is the facility created by the GSA is Washington, DC for that purpose. We say that in the article, in the second paragraph of Section 1. Others have argued that the transition headquarters is in Chicago, because that is where Obama spends most of his time. Chaser provided the first citation referring to the headquarters as being in Chicago. A Google search turns up articles naming both places as "transition headquarters," with the Sun Times predominately referring to the Chicago location, and others tending toward the office in DC. I would argue that the official headquarters is in DC, while recognizing that Obama uses the federal courthouse in Chicago as an unofficial headquarters. Any thoughts on how best to handle this? Cmichael ( talk) 22:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I get the idea of breaking up nominees into economic, domestic, etc. But the table makes no sense. It should go in order of establishment of the position (State, Treasury, AG.....DHS). Parler Vous (edits) 07:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Is a see also link to the Blagojevich's cases article be appropriate here? – Howard the Duck 11:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
The list of appointees in the templates is a big part of the this article, yet the templates themselves are subject to error. They're not referenced in any way. The "Executive Office of the President" template has been vandalized multiple times with fake names being put in. How do these templates mesh with Wiki's idea of verifiability, since none of the information in them is backed up with references. Simon12 ( talk) 02:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thursday, January 8, 2009 02:40pm EST
WASHINGTON – Vice President-elect Joe Biden today announced the following staff for the Office of the Vice President: Elisabeth Hire, Director of Scheduling; Pete Selfridge, Director of Advance; Anthony Bernal, Director of Scheduling for Dr. Jill Biden; and Sam Myers Sr., Trip Director for the Vice President.
jwalling ( talk) 07:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thursday, January 8, 2009
WASHINGTON – Today, President-elect Barack Obama announced that he intends to nominate the following individuals for key posts at the United States Department of Defense (DoD): William J. Lynn III, Deputy Secretary of Defense; Robert F. Hale, Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller); Michèle Flournoy, Under Secretary of Defense (Policy); and Jeh Charles Johnson, General Counsel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwalling ( talk • contribs) 08:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Ie that there were questions about/calls for him to do so and he didn't til Israel killed 42 people sheltering in a UN school. I've got a photo of protest at his transition office 12/29 to accompany any such text. Protesters daily at his hotel. Thousands to be outside his hotel on Jan 10th. Also I heard cable news pundits saying he's going to address the issue on Jan 20th, but that would be part of his presidential article. ;-) CarolMooreDC ( talk) 20:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
The result of the discussion is that there is no consensus to merge
Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration into
Presidential transition of Barack Obama --
Yellowdesk (
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I was reading through this article, which is full of good information, and asked myself "I don't remember seeing anything like this on any other presidents of the United States." So I checked -- nothing. All the inaugurations are covered in the biographies of the presidents or their presidential articles. In other words, there aren't any articles on Wikipedia for any other inaugurations in the history of this country -- not for Washington, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Wilson, F. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, just to name a few. So what's the point of this article when all the information can be covered in the Obama presidential transition article and then probably moved after Jan 20 to an Obama presidency article? Why is this event somehow special as to warrant its own article? Everything important -- first black president, use of Hussein, etc. -- can be included in the transition article (Washington, our first president, includes his in his body article). Needless to say, I Support a merge to Presidential transition of Barack Obama. Happyme22 ( talk) 02:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC) [In case it isn't clear, Happy is proposing to merge Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration into here, and his "this article" refers to that article. Wasted Time R ( talk) 13:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Why merge? ABC101090 ( talk) 15:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
OPPOSE That does not make sense to me.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 16:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I oppose it also, that is why I am asking why it should be merged. ABC101090 ( talk) 16:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Also oppose, it's a large scale event and deserves its own article. sean ( talk) 20:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama#Merger_proposal. -- Happyme22 ( talk) 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
↜Just me, here, now … 20:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Changed the sentence about Richardson's withdrawl. Richardson's administration is the subject of the investigation, not Richardson himself (i.e., he has not yet been implicated). http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/us/politics/19richardson.html?_r=2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.2.1 ( talk) 23:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Much of the information in this article no longer pertains specifically to the transition. Administration appointments occured during this period, but they relate to his presidency. His emerging agenda is yet to come, so it would be better suited in the presidency article. Reywas92 Talk 20:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Someone should nominate this at WP:GAC.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 09:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this page accurate regarding the jobs needing Senate approval?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the image at the top of the article says "Office of the President Elect". Is there really such an office in the US goverment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.219.153.75 ( talk) 20:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration: PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TASK FORCE, April 2008-January 2009, APPENDIX C: Task Force Event Participants
The Executive Summary of that document says that Presidential Transition Task Force members included representatives from past Administrations, State government, Fortune 500 companies, academia, research institutions and non-governmental organizations with global reach. Appendix C is a list of task force members.
Page 29 in the PDF page numbering is page 21 by the document page numbers, which is the beginnning of APPENDIX C: Task Force Event Participants (Participant titles as of the event date).
Page 32 in the PDF page numbering is page 29 by the document page numbers. That page lists the following individual as a Task Force Event Participant:
Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine
(Participant titles as of the event date)
I'll leave it to regular editors of this article to decide whether or not this information belongs in the article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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'Barack' is spelled wrong. I'd fix it, but I don't know that this article even needs to exist. Kutera Genesis ( talk) 06:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Merge to Presumptive presidency of Barack Obama as a Transition section? Grsz 11 →Review! 20:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Um, does anyone else see anything wrong with the phrase "2009-present"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.125.103 ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The fourth focus group is known as Lame-duck? Not according to the cited article. Deleted for being the stupidest thing I've ever heard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.172.9 ( talk) 17:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
...oops, reverted, after reading the rest of the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.172.9 ( talk) 17:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus for move.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 04:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I think this page should be moved to Barack Obama's first term as President of the United States. And the info on this page be added as the begining section.-- CPacker talk to me 05:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
There are some really bad redirects coming into this article. Presidency of Barack Obama? No. Obama Cabinet? No. Barack Obama's first term as president? No. These articles are irrelevant to the presidential transition, and should be redirected to Presidency of Barack Obama or deleted. Grsz 11 →Review! 01:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
A Cabinet article should ulitmately redirect to a Presidency article, right now it's nothing more than what is here, so I am okay with a redirect here for now. Grsz 11 →Review! 03:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
REDIRECTs created. Case closed. -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 23:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I thought the page looked boring without a picture, so I went out to commons and grabbed this one. If somebody has access to a more appropriate one, it wouldn't hurt my feelings to use it <grin>. Cmichael ( talk) 21:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your intent but, quite frankly, a picture is worth a thousand little blue boxes. That particular image illustrates the gist of this article perfectly. How can we fix this to everyone's satisfaction? Cmichael ( talk) 03:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Maybe use an image of the PIC, similar to: http://pic2009.inauguralcollectibles.com/products/Inaugural_Flag_Logo_Button.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.53.43 ( talk) 16:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a period rife with rumor about potential office-holders, offers, declined offers, interest, lack of interest in positions, policy agendas or lack of agendas, and so on. If a name or statement appears without citations to reliable sources supporting statements about the individual, the names and statements are subject to removal for lack of verifiable support in the article.
It's the wikipedia standard, as described at
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Isn't reportedly a word to avoid? It's used several times and jars the flow a bit. Can someone rewrite these instead? -- Banjeboi 01:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
While I'm not certain that this flow chart adheres to Wikipedia guidelines, I thought I would post it here to see what other editors think. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/11/11/al-gore-colin-powell-caroline-kennedy-in-obamas-administration.html - Classicfilms ( talk) 01:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Someone decided it would be best to eliminate the entire prospective administration. I suggest it is readded. Also the following link's subject is really being considered for the job mentioned in the article. This definetly should be added. [1]
May I remind everyone that during the primaries we had 2 articles speculating on running-mates?
Moderate2008 ( talk) 00:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I've restored the section. It's overwhelmingly important in order for this article to be comprehensive. It's well-sourced, though some judgement needed: we can't/shouldn't add everybody that's mentioned, but it is important to have a background. Grsz 11 →Review! 04:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
This may be the most appropriate Obama article for the following "See also": Citizenship lawsuits. Anyone think another Obama article would be more appropriate?
This "See Also" has been removed from the 2008 campaign article on the grounds that it occurred after the election. [2] Ferrylodge ( talk) 22:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
another lawsuit but this one will be different http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to discuss this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.105.146 ( talk) 04:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does the table of "Appointees/nominees (confirmed)" include any of the cabinet posts? None of them are as yet named by the Obama transition team itself. These are all still rumored and 'named' by 'unnamed sources'. So why are we including them in a table of "confirmed" nominees? Lestatdelc ( talk) 01:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there a way to fix the nominee table so the article text doesn't butt up against it? Lestatdelc ( talk) 04:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Lestatdelc- You deleted the info-box title link I made to the Wiki's own page on the Cabinet, because it was "improper". OK, FMI (For _MY_ Information) where are these "improper" rules listed?
BTW, the main reason why I was trying to establish the link was I wanted to see what other cabinet positions remained to be selected. I _HIGHLY_ suggest that you copy and paste in the table that you have already created in your own "Sandbox". —Preceding unsigned comment added by LP-mn ( talk • contribs) 02:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
This is an area that is fraught with poorly-sourced speculation and POV. Cites don't mean much if they refer to someone's overwrought speculation:
"He is likely, in any case, to issue a series of executive orders within days of his inauguration, including a reversal of Bush-era executive orders restricting funding to family planning (including abortion) services and stem-cell research.[52]";
none of which is actually supported, by the article cited, as to any specific action to which the Obama transition team has yet expressed any intentions. This whole section is problematic, isn't it? Steveozone ( talk) 05:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I've run into quite a few stories on security clearances, vetting and "the questionnaire" but this topic but not here. This search shows up a bunch of interesting WP:RS articles. Might do a section unless someone else beats me too it. Carol Moore 00:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC) Carolmooredc
There have been several edits in this table that are not valid.
1. Rahm Emanuel as White House Chief of Staff was announced, not reported. Moved (back?)to announced section.
2. James Jones, Susan Rice, Dennis Blair and Tom Donilon have not yet been announced. There is no section for reported White House/Executive Office of the President staff. Removed entries.
I also question the location of some entries. Should the following positions be considered Cabinet & Cabinet-level agency positions?
1. Deputy Director of the OMB
2. Deputy Secretary of State
3. Deputy White House Chiefs of Staff
—Preceding
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Latir (
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Zmurray ( talk) 15:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Will be the Obama intelligence director. This was reported by both the New York Times and The Times of London. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.120.177.129 ( talk) 04:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Isn't the Chief of Staff a cabinet level position? Should we put it their? If not, why not? - plau ( talk) 12:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
If there is a subsection in the infobox describing the office of the Vice President, shouldn't there be one for the Office of the First Lady. I just spoke with an Obama Iowa staffer whose boss, Jackie Norris, was named Michelle Obama's Chief of Staff. Should we fill in a First Lady section as well as a VP section?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 02:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
The text section needs broken into prose rather than a list that is identical to the template on the right. I haven't read up enough to do it but it should be easy enough for the same person who made the list, whoever that is. Grsz 11 23:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
According to NPR's article U.N. Envoy Nominee Rice Known As Smart, Tough:
"The head of the United Nations Foundation, a Washington-based advocacy group, released a statement praising Rice as well as Obama's decision to make the post of U.N. ambassador a Cabinet-level position once again — as it was during the Clinton years."
The position should most definitely be added back into the infobox template. Lestatdelc Lestatdelc ( talk) 23:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The Associated Press: "During his tenure at the CIA, he said, he thought he should be apolitical so he did not register with a political party. But, he added, 'I consider myself a Republican.'" Just tips me hat but then 〜on thoght bows deeply 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Which is it? There are instances of each on the page. We should pick one and stick with it. Is there a standing policy on this spelling rule? Trojanpony ( talk) 13:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I just want to note that I am using the skin called "Modern" and the table of appointments does not look right. The columns appear as staggered tiers below one another. They aren't all flush next to each other in a nice box.c ( talk) 09:21, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Anybody know whether Dr. Gates needn't re-nomination, rather simply stays on under Barack's/his discretion -- no Senate reconfirmation? Just tips me hat but then 〜on thought bows deeply … 07:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone just deleted the "Defense Agenda" section with the comment "does not compute." I don't understand. I rolled it back. The section is sourced, and clearly reflects the source. The defense agenda is clearly an important part of the transition efforts. If you'd like to delete it again, I'd appreciate a discussion here first. Thanks. Cmichael ( talk) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Why was the citizenship conspiracy part deleted? NYyankees51 ( talk) 15:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone find a good reference regarding the need for another Saxbe fix to appoint Ken Salazar? This article, his article and Saxbe fix could all use one.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
"Sen. Ken Salazar is poised to see a bump in salary as the country's next Interior secretary, but he won't be making as much money as his predecessor, Dirk Kempthorne. The same holds true for Rep. Hilda Solis, Barack Obama's choice for Labor secretary.... But Congress is going to have slice the Interior and Labor secretaries' pay in order to comply with the obscure emoluments clause of the Constitution, which prohibits sitting lawmakers from being appointed to positions that saw a pay increase during their terms." -- Congress to cut Cabinet salaries -- again, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/19/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4676697.shtml TJRC ( talk) 22:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I just happened to stumble upon Salazar's Saxbe fix; it's S. J. Res. 3: [6]. Passed in the Senate January 6; and in the House January 7. [7] TJRC ( talk) 00:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I made a separate article for the Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration. Feel free to come help out. Also, if you know any places that this should be linked to add the link.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 21:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
We've been having a little discussion about the location of the transition headquarters within the edit notes. I think we should move that discussion here. I have argued that transition headquarters is the facility created by the GSA is Washington, DC for that purpose. We say that in the article, in the second paragraph of Section 1. Others have argued that the transition headquarters is in Chicago, because that is where Obama spends most of his time. Chaser provided the first citation referring to the headquarters as being in Chicago. A Google search turns up articles naming both places as "transition headquarters," with the Sun Times predominately referring to the Chicago location, and others tending toward the office in DC. I would argue that the official headquarters is in DC, while recognizing that Obama uses the federal courthouse in Chicago as an unofficial headquarters. Any thoughts on how best to handle this? Cmichael ( talk) 22:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I get the idea of breaking up nominees into economic, domestic, etc. But the table makes no sense. It should go in order of establishment of the position (State, Treasury, AG.....DHS). Parler Vous (edits) 07:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Is a see also link to the Blagojevich's cases article be appropriate here? – Howard the Duck 11:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
The list of appointees in the templates is a big part of the this article, yet the templates themselves are subject to error. They're not referenced in any way. The "Executive Office of the President" template has been vandalized multiple times with fake names being put in. How do these templates mesh with Wiki's idea of verifiability, since none of the information in them is backed up with references. Simon12 ( talk) 02:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thursday, January 8, 2009 02:40pm EST
WASHINGTON – Vice President-elect Joe Biden today announced the following staff for the Office of the Vice President: Elisabeth Hire, Director of Scheduling; Pete Selfridge, Director of Advance; Anthony Bernal, Director of Scheduling for Dr. Jill Biden; and Sam Myers Sr., Trip Director for the Vice President.
jwalling ( talk) 07:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thursday, January 8, 2009
WASHINGTON – Today, President-elect Barack Obama announced that he intends to nominate the following individuals for key posts at the United States Department of Defense (DoD): William J. Lynn III, Deputy Secretary of Defense; Robert F. Hale, Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller); Michèle Flournoy, Under Secretary of Defense (Policy); and Jeh Charles Johnson, General Counsel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwalling ( talk • contribs) 08:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Ie that there were questions about/calls for him to do so and he didn't til Israel killed 42 people sheltering in a UN school. I've got a photo of protest at his transition office 12/29 to accompany any such text. Protesters daily at his hotel. Thousands to be outside his hotel on Jan 10th. Also I heard cable news pundits saying he's going to address the issue on Jan 20th, but that would be part of his presidential article. ;-) CarolMooreDC ( talk) 20:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
The result of the discussion is that there is no consensus to merge
Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration into
Presidential transition of Barack Obama --
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I was reading through this article, which is full of good information, and asked myself "I don't remember seeing anything like this on any other presidents of the United States." So I checked -- nothing. All the inaugurations are covered in the biographies of the presidents or their presidential articles. In other words, there aren't any articles on Wikipedia for any other inaugurations in the history of this country -- not for Washington, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Wilson, F. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, just to name a few. So what's the point of this article when all the information can be covered in the Obama presidential transition article and then probably moved after Jan 20 to an Obama presidency article? Why is this event somehow special as to warrant its own article? Everything important -- first black president, use of Hussein, etc. -- can be included in the transition article (Washington, our first president, includes his in his body article). Needless to say, I Support a merge to Presidential transition of Barack Obama. Happyme22 ( talk) 02:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC) [In case it isn't clear, Happy is proposing to merge Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration into here, and his "this article" refers to that article. Wasted Time R ( talk) 13:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Why merge? ABC101090 ( talk) 15:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
OPPOSE That does not make sense to me.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 16:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I oppose it also, that is why I am asking why it should be merged. ABC101090 ( talk) 16:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Also oppose, it's a large scale event and deserves its own article. sean ( talk) 20:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama#Merger_proposal. -- Happyme22 ( talk) 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
↜Just me, here, now … 20:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Changed the sentence about Richardson's withdrawl. Richardson's administration is the subject of the investigation, not Richardson himself (i.e., he has not yet been implicated). http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/us/politics/19richardson.html?_r=2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.2.1 ( talk) 23:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Much of the information in this article no longer pertains specifically to the transition. Administration appointments occured during this period, but they relate to his presidency. His emerging agenda is yet to come, so it would be better suited in the presidency article. Reywas92 Talk 20:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Someone should nominate this at WP:GAC.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 09:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this page accurate regarding the jobs needing Senate approval?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 07:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the image at the top of the article says "Office of the President Elect". Is there really such an office in the US goverment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.219.153.75 ( talk) 20:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration: PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TASK FORCE, April 2008-January 2009, APPENDIX C: Task Force Event Participants
The Executive Summary of that document says that Presidential Transition Task Force members included representatives from past Administrations, State government, Fortune 500 companies, academia, research institutions and non-governmental organizations with global reach. Appendix C is a list of task force members.
Page 29 in the PDF page numbering is page 21 by the document page numbers, which is the beginnning of APPENDIX C: Task Force Event Participants (Participant titles as of the event date).
Page 32 in the PDF page numbering is page 29 by the document page numbers. That page lists the following individual as a Task Force Event Participant:
Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine
(Participant titles as of the event date)
I'll leave it to regular editors of this article to decide whether or not this information belongs in the article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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