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Please change Allahabad to Prayagraj because its name is changed officially. 839930jkddkls ( talk) 16:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
It is beyond offensive to the Hindu community that you are not changing Allahabad to the official name Prayagraj. Please change the name. 2600:1009:B0E7:E8F6:2D68:8F54:FC22:8751 ( talk) 22:18, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Although asking for a name change would be beating my head against the wall. However, what perplexes me is how city of Astana's name change to Nur-Sultan was done yet Allahabad to Prayagraj(which actually happened a year ago to Astana's name change) is facing so much opposition. What is the rationale or logic behind this?
Rook6
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Let's face it.. Like everywhere.. Wikipedia has a political issue.
Article's names are not always named like their usage in that respective Wikipedia language tells them too, which should be applied according to Wikipedia's naming conventions, but some article's are renamed swiftly without the usage of the new name being that high.
Still, the article will be renamed Prayagraj eventually, this is obvious.
English Wikipedia is simply the most backwarded. And yes, it is totally offensive to Hindus not moving the article's name, since the name Allahabad was created under occupation. Somebody, who hasn't lived under occupation would not understand. German Wikipedia has a guideline: to name places like they are named in their native.
Maybe English Wikipedia will one day come to that if they want to improve, it makes things much easier and is simply fair to the people's of the world. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 07:42, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Antwerp | Anversa | Anvers | Antwerpen |
Cologne | Colonia | Cologne | Köln |
The Hague | L'Aia | La Haye | Den Haag |
Geneva | Ginevra | Genève | Genf |
Genoa | Genova | Gênes | Genua |
Lviv | Leopoli | Lviv | Lwiw |
Munich | Monaco di Baviera | Munich | München |
Moscow | Mosca | Moscou | Moskau |
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Prague | Praga | Prague | Prag |
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Vereinigtes Königreich means United Kingdom, it is only in German and was used for a long time. Maybe even this will change in the future, and we will call it "United Kingdom".. I would have no problem with that.
-- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 20:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
As I said, Bharat would sound just fine to me, if the people show that they want it with a referendum maybe..
Kashmiri writes, that it is not important to right the wrongs, if they are long ago.. I beg to differ...
We now live in a different world (most of us) thank God.. so we now are responsible to clean up some of the mess, that has been done some time ago. And renaming city's under occupation is belonging to this, and people do care as though it was long ago, which only shows, how important this issue is and always will be. Within days sometimes another one writes, when the article is finally going to be renamed „Prayagraj“.. people, who don't usually write on Wikipedia and don't know, what else to do, but nothing helps, the city is still named Allahabad. Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 08:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Officials, including President Tokayev, have likewise ceased referring to the capital city as Nur-Sultan, preferring instead to call it just “the capital city.”eurasianet 20 Jan 2022 -- Toddy1 (talk) 21:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
The article has a paragraph:
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The Magh Mela is an annual gathering of Hindu pilgrims in Prayag, on the banks of Triveni Sangam (the confluence of Ganga, Yamuna and Saraswati). This Mela is held every year during the Hindu month of Magh (corresponding from mid January – mid February) and the important bathing dates are spread over a period of 45 days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhigya Pandey ( talk • contribs) 08:53, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Add a fews lines under the heading Entertainment and recreation-The Magh Mela is an annual gathering of Hindu pilgrims in Prayag, on the banks of Triveni Sangam (the confluence of Ganga, Yamuna and Saraswati). This Mela is held every year during the Hindu month of Magh (corresponding from mid January – mid February) and the important bathing dates are spread over a period of 45 days. Abhigya Pandey ( talk) 07:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Sir since the old name of the given city was allahabad which was changed to Prayagraj by our respected government so in order to promote the new name it would be helpful if you remove the name of the city as Allahabad and change it to Prayagraj.You can mention the old name (Allahabad) in the article just for the extra knowledge but since you are entitling the whole page as Allahabad also using the name Allahabad at all places name of the city is required it might be misleading also isn't the right the right identity of the city. Therefore i request you to take my concern serious and change the required names at all places from Allahabad to Prayagraj so as to promote right information to people all around the globe which is the primary use of Wikipedia THE AYT ( talk) 17:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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I have seen that Wikipedia uses official names of cities in case of creating article, e.g. istanbul which was named Constantinople at one time, or Kolkata which was name calcutta at one time. Simillar way the official name is prayagraj which should be the heading of article not allahabad. Nketkar007 ( talk) 02:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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Since Allahabad has officially and correctly been restored to its original name Prayagraj, I would request to change the title to Prayagraj as well... Kool123Blue ( talk) 17:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the city name to "Prayagraj" official name including page title/heading. This will avoid confusion on the information and search. It is necessary that wikipedia keeps latest, truthful, non-biased and official information. Sidpatil3 ( talk) 07:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
@ User:Roxy the dog where is the discussion on the talk page? Wikiwizardinho ( talk) 08:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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"change ALLAHABAD to PRAYAGRAJ" 2409:4040:D97:4D93:1857:F54C:8DE:6DBA ( talk) 14:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
English-language news media can also be very reliable sources. Due caution must be given to the possibility of bias in some, such as for nationalistic, religious or political reasons. However, major global sources are generally reliable, such as major authoritative English-language newspapers (examples: The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Times of London) or wire services (examples: Reuters, Associated Press). Google News and Lexis-Nexis search results can provide a quick guide to the relative predominance of alternative names across the media as a whole, provided the search parameters are properly set, but as with all raw search numbers, they should be used with caution.Thus in various news channel such as The Washington Post( here is the link https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/06/india-social-media-covid-19/ ) and the BBC News too is addressing this city as Prayagraj.So its should be like Prayagraj, formally known as Allahabad Curious man123 ( talk) 17:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Change title of page from Allahabad to Pragyaraj. 82.6.39.2 ( talk) 13:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Pls change and update the website Previous name of the city was alabad and correct name of the city is Prayagraj 150.129.151.187 ( talk) 09:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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If it wasn't true, noone would believe it. It is really astonishing, how it is is organized, that the name Allahabad will stay the article's name. If there was democratic structures on this part of Wikipedia, the discussions on the topic would be held without a „discussion ban“ - the mere existence of such thing, like a ban of a discussion is pure anti-democracy.. And then every opinion ever made by any IP-adress should be counted. Then the English media usage of each term should be explored and other usage as well and then there would a picture emerge. But to start a discussion, which is limited in time, and every opinion that was mentioned before or after that time span, is simply ignored, well that is just a dirty ruse, that should anyone from a democratic country make sick. How deep can one fall. Lobbyists and anti-democrats surely take notes. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 22:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please i request Wiki Pedia or Article creator to change the title name from Allahabad to Prayagraj ! The city's name was changed by the Adityanath government in October 2018. The Supreme Court on Monday issued a notice to the Uttar Pradesh government seeking its response to a petition challenging the decision to change the name of Allahabad city to Prayagraj
I request all visitors to report the page if Article name is not changed from Allahabad to Prayagraj Nikmenikit ( talk) 07:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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Change name to Prayagraj the article is outdated the last major update was in 2017 or earlier and needs to be updated to 2022 standards by fixing the name 71.169.177.245 ( talk) 10:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
There is now a pretty clear consensus across all the various kinds of sources that they are now using Prayagraj as the name for the city that is the subject of the article. As per Wikipedia's policy on commonly used names, the sources that should be refered to are major international organizations, major English-language media outlets, quality encyclopedias, geographic name servers, major scientific bodies, and notable scientific journals.
Major International Organizations: Somewhat complicated, given that major organizations relatively rarely refer to the name of a city. Nonetheless, since the name change, the United Nations, the World Bank, UNESCOthe World Health Organization, and European Union have used Prayagraj in their reports or their datasets to refer to the city. That said, this is probably the most debatable category.
Major English-Language Media outlets: They have almost universally started using Prayagraj, regardless of whether they are based in the United States such as Reuters, New York Times, or Washington Post, the UK such as BBC or the Guardian, or in India such as the Indian Express or NDTV.
Quality Encyclopedia: Britannica Uses Prayagraj.
Geographic Name Servers: Google Maps, Bing Maps, and Apple Maps all use Prayagraj.
Major Science Bodies and Journals: Checking citations for Prayagraj vs Allahabad is complicated, because Allahabad is used as a name for a lot of things besides the city that is the subject of the article, such as other locations called Allahabad, a district court, a military hospital, a fort, a pillar, a kind of plant, and importantly multiple universites have Allahabad in their name. However, we can easily check which is more the common representation for the city that is the subject of this article by searching for "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" vs "Allahabad,Uttar Pradesh". Since 2022, Prayagraj is far more common, with 1800 results for Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh vs only 694 for Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh, which is pretty clear evidence that Prayagraj has become the common name in the scientific literature as well.
Waiting to change the name until the sources changes made sense, but now that they have, Wikipedia is going to seem ridiculously out of teach if we keep using the old name that is no longer the most commonly used one. 2601:1C0:6C00:2430:A510:5602:24D8:4F87 ( talk) 00:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Scholar search term | Allahabad | Prayagraj |
"Allahabad" "Prayagraj" |
10,900 | 5,760 |
"Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh" "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" |
694 | 1,800 |
"Allahabad, India" "Prayagraj, India" |
2,400 | 1,700 |
"Allahabad, Region" "Prayagraj, Region" |
63 | 50 |
"Allahabad city" "Prayagraj city" |
200 | 171 |
"Allahabad division" "Prayagraj division" |
11 | 4 |
"Allahabad district" "Prayagraj district" |
255 | 198 |
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Scholar search term | Allahabad | Prayagraj |
"Allahabad" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj" -Allahabad |
8,350 | 2,880 |
"Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" -Allahabad |
541 | 1,080 |
"Allahabad, India" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, India" -Allahabad |
2,160 | 622 |
"Allahabad, Region" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, Region" -Allahabad |
60 | 18 |
"Allahabad city" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj city" -Allahabad |
155 | 124 |
"Allahabad division" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj division" -Allahabad |
10 | 2 |
"Allahabad district" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj district" -Allahabad |
208 | 75 |
I would like the 259 requests and comments over the course of almost 3 years pro a namechange to Prayagraj to be included in the discussion. I think, Wikipedia users should have a say as well.
And I would ask you this time, please don't rush the discussion like the last 2 times, which was very sus. Let everybody have a little time to get information and statistics on the topic or to prove them at least. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
The city's name is Prayagraj not Allahabad,it was the original name of the city which was changed in Mughal period.The Government of Uttar Pradesh has reverted the name of the city to its original name, so you are misleading people by not allowing to change the name to Prayagraj.The official name is Prayagraj and if you don't allow to change it to its original name, it might result in mass outrage TheruralGuy ( talk) 13:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
It has been around 5 years since the name of the city has been officially changed from Allahabad to Prayagraj. Most billboards, signboards have the new name on them. Events taking place in the city also use the name Prayagraj. Most articles on the web, news reports, Google Maps are now using the name Prayagraj instead of Allahabad. It is also evident that people of the city use the name Prayagraj in day to day conversation while referring to the city. This indicates that Prayagraj has also become a commonly used English Language name. TheOneRiding ( talk) 16:25, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
This is saddening. This is not the ethics of Wikipedia.
And there is no information on it. If so please explain 202.164.139.16 ( talk) 12:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Change the to Prayagraj.period 184.88.244.244 ( talk) 13:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Please tell the reason 103.208.69.8 ( talk) 07:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Allahabad can be redirect to this page. it's available. Because Prayagraj is official name since last 5 years. name must be change to Prayagraj. Rahil1610 ( talk) 18:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
When I am right, it is about time.
When will it take place?
-- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 14:11, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: MOVED. Hadal ( talk) 17:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Allahabad → Prayagraj – WP:COMMONNAME, pageviews shows that even when the name change hasn't been done yet even then the pageviews of "prayagraj" is not very far behind "allahabad", also a simple google search with and without quotes, and also major news article the print, ndtv, bbc, the hindu 2405:201:501A:E807:299A:BC06:A86D:3B7B ( talk) 10:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Financial Times | 5 | 0 |
The Daily Telegraph | 3 | 2 |
The Times | 3 | 5 |
Daily Mail | 2 | 3 |
Daily Express | 2 | 2 |
Morning Star (British newspaper) | 0 | 0 |
The Economist | 2 | 1 |
The New York Times | 5 | 98 |
The Washington Post | 6 | 6 |
Time (magazine) | 8 | 1 |
The Wall Street Journal | 4 | 3 |
The Australian | 0 | 1 |
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2020 | 2683 | 881 |
2021 | 1902 | 979 |
2022 | 4880 | 2823 |
2023 (YTD) | 1471 | 2148 |
Please update the map of India from 'India' to 'India1' so that the correct map is displayed. Wikediter.fact ( talk) 01:24, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion that is relevant to the above at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Module:Location map/data/India1.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Please change Allahabad to Prayagraj because its name is changed officially. 839930jkddkls ( talk) 16:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
It is beyond offensive to the Hindu community that you are not changing Allahabad to the official name Prayagraj. Please change the name. 2600:1009:B0E7:E8F6:2D68:8F54:FC22:8751 ( talk) 22:18, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Although asking for a name change would be beating my head against the wall. However, what perplexes me is how city of Astana's name change to Nur-Sultan was done yet Allahabad to Prayagraj(which actually happened a year ago to Astana's name change) is facing so much opposition. What is the rationale or logic behind this?
Rook6
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Let's face it.. Like everywhere.. Wikipedia has a political issue.
Article's names are not always named like their usage in that respective Wikipedia language tells them too, which should be applied according to Wikipedia's naming conventions, but some article's are renamed swiftly without the usage of the new name being that high.
Still, the article will be renamed Prayagraj eventually, this is obvious.
English Wikipedia is simply the most backwarded. And yes, it is totally offensive to Hindus not moving the article's name, since the name Allahabad was created under occupation. Somebody, who hasn't lived under occupation would not understand. German Wikipedia has a guideline: to name places like they are named in their native.
Maybe English Wikipedia will one day come to that if they want to improve, it makes things much easier and is simply fair to the people's of the world. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 07:42, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Cologne | Colonia | Cologne | Köln |
The Hague | L'Aia | La Haye | Den Haag |
Geneva | Ginevra | Genève | Genf |
Genoa | Genova | Gênes | Genua |
Lviv | Leopoli | Lviv | Lwiw |
Munich | Monaco di Baviera | Munich | München |
Moscow | Mosca | Moscou | Moskau |
Naples | Napoli | Naples | Neapel |
Prague | Praga | Prague | Prag |
Rome | Roma | Rome | Rom |
Vienna | Vienna | Vienne | Wien |
Warsaw | Varsavia | Varsovie | Warschau |
Vereinigtes Königreich means United Kingdom, it is only in German and was used for a long time. Maybe even this will change in the future, and we will call it "United Kingdom".. I would have no problem with that.
-- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 20:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
As I said, Bharat would sound just fine to me, if the people show that they want it with a referendum maybe..
Kashmiri writes, that it is not important to right the wrongs, if they are long ago.. I beg to differ...
We now live in a different world (most of us) thank God.. so we now are responsible to clean up some of the mess, that has been done some time ago. And renaming city's under occupation is belonging to this, and people do care as though it was long ago, which only shows, how important this issue is and always will be. Within days sometimes another one writes, when the article is finally going to be renamed „Prayagraj“.. people, who don't usually write on Wikipedia and don't know, what else to do, but nothing helps, the city is still named Allahabad. Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 08:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Officials, including President Tokayev, have likewise ceased referring to the capital city as Nur-Sultan, preferring instead to call it just “the capital city.”eurasianet 20 Jan 2022 -- Toddy1 (talk) 21:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
The article has a paragraph:
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The Magh Mela is an annual gathering of Hindu pilgrims in Prayag, on the banks of Triveni Sangam (the confluence of Ganga, Yamuna and Saraswati). This Mela is held every year during the Hindu month of Magh (corresponding from mid January – mid February) and the important bathing dates are spread over a period of 45 days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhigya Pandey ( talk • contribs) 08:53, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Add a fews lines under the heading Entertainment and recreation-The Magh Mela is an annual gathering of Hindu pilgrims in Prayag, on the banks of Triveni Sangam (the confluence of Ganga, Yamuna and Saraswati). This Mela is held every year during the Hindu month of Magh (corresponding from mid January – mid February) and the important bathing dates are spread over a period of 45 days. Abhigya Pandey ( talk) 07:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Sir since the old name of the given city was allahabad which was changed to Prayagraj by our respected government so in order to promote the new name it would be helpful if you remove the name of the city as Allahabad and change it to Prayagraj.You can mention the old name (Allahabad) in the article just for the extra knowledge but since you are entitling the whole page as Allahabad also using the name Allahabad at all places name of the city is required it might be misleading also isn't the right the right identity of the city. Therefore i request you to take my concern serious and change the required names at all places from Allahabad to Prayagraj so as to promote right information to people all around the globe which is the primary use of Wikipedia THE AYT ( talk) 17:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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I have seen that Wikipedia uses official names of cities in case of creating article, e.g. istanbul which was named Constantinople at one time, or Kolkata which was name calcutta at one time. Simillar way the official name is prayagraj which should be the heading of article not allahabad. Nketkar007 ( talk) 02:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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Since Allahabad has officially and correctly been restored to its original name Prayagraj, I would request to change the title to Prayagraj as well... Kool123Blue ( talk) 17:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the city name to "Prayagraj" official name including page title/heading. This will avoid confusion on the information and search. It is necessary that wikipedia keeps latest, truthful, non-biased and official information. Sidpatil3 ( talk) 07:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
@ User:Roxy the dog where is the discussion on the talk page? Wikiwizardinho ( talk) 08:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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"change ALLAHABAD to PRAYAGRAJ" 2409:4040:D97:4D93:1857:F54C:8DE:6DBA ( talk) 14:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
English-language news media can also be very reliable sources. Due caution must be given to the possibility of bias in some, such as for nationalistic, religious or political reasons. However, major global sources are generally reliable, such as major authoritative English-language newspapers (examples: The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Times of London) or wire services (examples: Reuters, Associated Press). Google News and Lexis-Nexis search results can provide a quick guide to the relative predominance of alternative names across the media as a whole, provided the search parameters are properly set, but as with all raw search numbers, they should be used with caution.Thus in various news channel such as The Washington Post( here is the link https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/06/india-social-media-covid-19/ ) and the BBC News too is addressing this city as Prayagraj.So its should be like Prayagraj, formally known as Allahabad Curious man123 ( talk) 17:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Change title of page from Allahabad to Pragyaraj. 82.6.39.2 ( talk) 13:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Pls change and update the website Previous name of the city was alabad and correct name of the city is Prayagraj 150.129.151.187 ( talk) 09:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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If it wasn't true, noone would believe it. It is really astonishing, how it is is organized, that the name Allahabad will stay the article's name. If there was democratic structures on this part of Wikipedia, the discussions on the topic would be held without a „discussion ban“ - the mere existence of such thing, like a ban of a discussion is pure anti-democracy.. And then every opinion ever made by any IP-adress should be counted. Then the English media usage of each term should be explored and other usage as well and then there would a picture emerge. But to start a discussion, which is limited in time, and every opinion that was mentioned before or after that time span, is simply ignored, well that is just a dirty ruse, that should anyone from a democratic country make sick. How deep can one fall. Lobbyists and anti-democrats surely take notes. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 22:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please i request Wiki Pedia or Article creator to change the title name from Allahabad to Prayagraj ! The city's name was changed by the Adityanath government in October 2018. The Supreme Court on Monday issued a notice to the Uttar Pradesh government seeking its response to a petition challenging the decision to change the name of Allahabad city to Prayagraj
I request all visitors to report the page if Article name is not changed from Allahabad to Prayagraj Nikmenikit ( talk) 07:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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Change name to Prayagraj the article is outdated the last major update was in 2017 or earlier and needs to be updated to 2022 standards by fixing the name 71.169.177.245 ( talk) 10:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
There is now a pretty clear consensus across all the various kinds of sources that they are now using Prayagraj as the name for the city that is the subject of the article. As per Wikipedia's policy on commonly used names, the sources that should be refered to are major international organizations, major English-language media outlets, quality encyclopedias, geographic name servers, major scientific bodies, and notable scientific journals.
Major International Organizations: Somewhat complicated, given that major organizations relatively rarely refer to the name of a city. Nonetheless, since the name change, the United Nations, the World Bank, UNESCOthe World Health Organization, and European Union have used Prayagraj in their reports or their datasets to refer to the city. That said, this is probably the most debatable category.
Major English-Language Media outlets: They have almost universally started using Prayagraj, regardless of whether they are based in the United States such as Reuters, New York Times, or Washington Post, the UK such as BBC or the Guardian, or in India such as the Indian Express or NDTV.
Quality Encyclopedia: Britannica Uses Prayagraj.
Geographic Name Servers: Google Maps, Bing Maps, and Apple Maps all use Prayagraj.
Major Science Bodies and Journals: Checking citations for Prayagraj vs Allahabad is complicated, because Allahabad is used as a name for a lot of things besides the city that is the subject of the article, such as other locations called Allahabad, a district court, a military hospital, a fort, a pillar, a kind of plant, and importantly multiple universites have Allahabad in their name. However, we can easily check which is more the common representation for the city that is the subject of this article by searching for "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" vs "Allahabad,Uttar Pradesh". Since 2022, Prayagraj is far more common, with 1800 results for Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh vs only 694 for Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh, which is pretty clear evidence that Prayagraj has become the common name in the scientific literature as well.
Waiting to change the name until the sources changes made sense, but now that they have, Wikipedia is going to seem ridiculously out of teach if we keep using the old name that is no longer the most commonly used one. 2601:1C0:6C00:2430:A510:5602:24D8:4F87 ( talk) 00:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Google Scholar search results, since 2022 | ||
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Scholar search term | Allahabad | Prayagraj |
"Allahabad" "Prayagraj" |
10,900 | 5,760 |
"Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh" "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" |
694 | 1,800 |
"Allahabad, India" "Prayagraj, India" |
2,400 | 1,700 |
"Allahabad, Region" "Prayagraj, Region" |
63 | 50 |
"Allahabad city" "Prayagraj city" |
200 | 171 |
"Allahabad division" "Prayagraj division" |
11 | 4 |
"Allahabad district" "Prayagraj district" |
255 | 198 |
Google Scholar search results, since 2022 | ||
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Scholar search term | Allahabad | Prayagraj |
"Allahabad" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj" -Allahabad |
8,350 | 2,880 |
"Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh" -Allahabad |
541 | 1,080 |
"Allahabad, India" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, India" -Allahabad |
2,160 | 622 |
"Allahabad, Region" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj, Region" -Allahabad |
60 | 18 |
"Allahabad city" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj city" -Allahabad |
155 | 124 |
"Allahabad division" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj division" -Allahabad |
10 | 2 |
"Allahabad district" -Prayagraj "Prayagraj district" -Allahabad |
208 | 75 |
I would like the 259 requests and comments over the course of almost 3 years pro a namechange to Prayagraj to be included in the discussion. I think, Wikipedia users should have a say as well.
And I would ask you this time, please don't rush the discussion like the last 2 times, which was very sus. Let everybody have a little time to get information and statistics on the topic or to prove them at least. -- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
The city's name is Prayagraj not Allahabad,it was the original name of the city which was changed in Mughal period.The Government of Uttar Pradesh has reverted the name of the city to its original name, so you are misleading people by not allowing to change the name to Prayagraj.The official name is Prayagraj and if you don't allow to change it to its original name, it might result in mass outrage TheruralGuy ( talk) 13:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
It has been around 5 years since the name of the city has been officially changed from Allahabad to Prayagraj. Most billboards, signboards have the new name on them. Events taking place in the city also use the name Prayagraj. Most articles on the web, news reports, Google Maps are now using the name Prayagraj instead of Allahabad. It is also evident that people of the city use the name Prayagraj in day to day conversation while referring to the city. This indicates that Prayagraj has also become a commonly used English Language name. TheOneRiding ( talk) 16:25, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
This is saddening. This is not the ethics of Wikipedia.
And there is no information on it. If so please explain 202.164.139.16 ( talk) 12:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Change the to Prayagraj.period 184.88.244.244 ( talk) 13:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Please tell the reason 103.208.69.8 ( talk) 07:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Allahabad can be redirect to this page. it's available. Because Prayagraj is official name since last 5 years. name must be change to Prayagraj. Rahil1610 ( talk) 18:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
When I am right, it is about time.
When will it take place?
-- Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) Tecumseh*1301 ( talk) 14:11, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: MOVED. Hadal ( talk) 17:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Allahabad → Prayagraj – WP:COMMONNAME, pageviews shows that even when the name change hasn't been done yet even then the pageviews of "prayagraj" is not very far behind "allahabad", also a simple google search with and without quotes, and also major news article the print, ndtv, bbc, the hindu 2405:201:501A:E807:299A:BC06:A86D:3B7B ( talk) 10:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Search results, 1 Jan 2022 to 22 Apr 2023 | ||
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Allahabad | Prayagraj | |
Financial Times | 5 | 0 |
The Daily Telegraph | 3 | 2 |
The Times | 3 | 5 |
Daily Mail | 2 | 3 |
Daily Express | 2 | 2 |
Morning Star (British newspaper) | 0 | 0 |
The Economist | 2 | 1 |
The New York Times | 5 | 98 |
The Washington Post | 6 | 6 |
Time (magazine) | 8 | 1 |
The Wall Street Journal | 4 | 3 |
The Australian | 0 | 1 |
"Allahabad" | "Prayagraj" | |
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2020 | 2683 | 881 |
2021 | 1902 | 979 |
2022 | 4880 | 2823 |
2023 (YTD) | 1471 | 2148 |
Please update the map of India from 'India' to 'India1' so that the correct map is displayed. Wikediter.fact ( talk) 01:24, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion that is relevant to the above at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 May 4#Module:Location map/data/India1.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)