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Koryosaram: Stop deleting the section about the Audible.com player, I've done the research, this is the first commercially available DAP. I'm NOT USING SELF PUBLISHED SOURCE, obviously, the link is the original website at Archive.org. If you delete this a third time then I will seek remedy with higher authority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austinv311 ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC
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how many songs does the Zune hold
While this article summarizes the general characteristics of all portable media players worldwide, original of fake, Chinese MP4/MTV Player focuses on Chinese-made-and-designed players; many are pirated or imitations of popular brands. A "no brainer"? Go figure. Chinese MP4/MTV Player should be expanded to include information about the labour status in China, and what causes the companies there to make fakes.-- Jw21/PenaltyKillah( discuss• edits) 16:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Cant we list a few Portable Media Players? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrikanth05 ( talk • contribs) 05:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC) Rsrikanth05 05:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I've left the Chinese article separate, but I've moved almost all content which can be generalised in here. This means the MP4 player article is basically just a list of complaints, but at least it gives us some content to play with. Both articles need massive improvement. Chris Cunningham 09:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
after the merge with the Chinese players (which still has it's own article), this article seems more focused on them then PMPs in general, I think the only other players mentioned are the Clix and Archos Jukebox. TMV942 23:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Why there is some cheap rip-off of Meizu M6 pictured? This isn't a PMP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.24.204 ( talk) 20:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
The History section ought to include the following things:
-- nblschool ( talk) 20:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
True, but these are considered portable media players, especially given that they now play more than just audio. Addidionally, the transition to the use of two classes of multifunction devices as PMPs(UMPCs and smartphones) should be mentioned, as these are now becoming new standards for the industry. -- nblschool ( talk) 20:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys think this article should be combined with the article: digital audio player (mp3 player)? I mean they are almost the same thing. one can only play audio files and the other can play audio and video WHRM3 ( talk) 01:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
You could as well copy the smartphone history section to the history section of this article. Nowadays nearly every phone ( smartphone or feature phone) costing more than Euro 70,- is a portable media player. Andries ( talk) 19:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The article lists that all PMP devices have screens, but there are media players that don't have screens, and are designed to be plugged into a television. Most of these aren't portable, but ones like the andisk Sansa TakeTV are designed to be very portable... Mattpace ( talk) 17:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
The topic this article covers (digital media) is already covered in that other article, so I don't see the need for duplication. -or- We could change the focus to be more general, and include analog as well as digital media. After all my old Walkman is a portable media player, even though it uses old-fashioned cassettes. ---- Theaveng ( talk) 14:51, 29 January 2010 (UTC)(jared masias was here)
Oppose because audio and media players are different. In addition the digital audio player is a long article that will lose a lot of information if merged. JDDJS ( talk) 00:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Oppose They are different things. A portable media player can be both digital and analog. And a digital audio player can be both portable and stationary. Alex³ ( talk) 14:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
No one opposing the merge has made any improvements to try and address the issues. I have performed the merge and am working on smoothing it. Let's try to improve the article in this form for a while. If it doesn't work out, we can always split. -- Kvng ( talk) 21:05, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
I think the scope of this article should be limited to devices that are either dedicated portable media players or devices that have as main function portable media players. In other words, I think this article and the corresponding category should not be mobile phones, because that would make it too broad. Andries ( talk) 22:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
How did this happen?
Under Hardware section it says that the media player can have text readers and editors. I don't this this is a hardware component. As well the device's battery or microphone is not listed as a hardware component. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.188.150 ( talk) 23:05, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
this article is placed under the categories Korean and English inventions, which doesn't make sense. Remove these? -- Makkachin ( talk) 10:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
just thought this page contains a lot of information that is neither notable or worth talking about... such as the model Cowon iAUDIO CW100.. far far far from notable. V-apharmd ( talk) 04:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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The redirect resulting from my merge from Digital audio player (discussed above) is now pointed to MP3 player. I am now proposing to merge MP3 player into this article. Aside from some early models, there's not really an audio player that does only MP3. It is possible that MP3 player could talk about non-portable players but it is not substantially doing that now and that content could go into Digital media player. ~ Kvng ( talk) 15:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
There appears to be consensus so I have completed a rough merge. I plan to make improvements to the article in the coming months. Gammbow has some good ideas for improving coverage of the topic but these are largely independent of the merge proposal and having all the content that needs work in one location should make the work easier. ~ Kvng ( talk) 17:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: Great good that the move has been done. Yes this article really needs a revamp as it is a mess currently and too many sections. I like to contribute as well -- Gammbow ( talk) 21:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: I have done a 1st cleanup of the article and it looks a bit better and less messy, but I know a lot more needs to be done from here -- Gammbow ( talk) 14:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: I have done further improvements as well as adding relevant images. Article looks much better now than it did a week ago. There's still work to be done including merging content dealing with same content (the "Typical features", "Hardware", and "Operation" sections all seem to have similar content). And also the "Chipsets" section which only talks about those cheap dubbed "MP4 players". -- Gammbow ( talk) 14:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
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Koryosaram: Stop deleting the section about the Audible.com player, I've done the research, this is the first commercially available DAP. I'm NOT USING SELF PUBLISHED SOURCE, obviously, the link is the original website at Archive.org. If you delete this a third time then I will seek remedy with higher authority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austinv311 ( talk • contribs) 06:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC
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how many songs does the Zune hold
While this article summarizes the general characteristics of all portable media players worldwide, original of fake, Chinese MP4/MTV Player focuses on Chinese-made-and-designed players; many are pirated or imitations of popular brands. A "no brainer"? Go figure. Chinese MP4/MTV Player should be expanded to include information about the labour status in China, and what causes the companies there to make fakes.-- Jw21/PenaltyKillah( discuss• edits) 16:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Cant we list a few Portable Media Players? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrikanth05 ( talk • contribs) 05:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC) Rsrikanth05 05:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I've left the Chinese article separate, but I've moved almost all content which can be generalised in here. This means the MP4 player article is basically just a list of complaints, but at least it gives us some content to play with. Both articles need massive improvement. Chris Cunningham 09:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
after the merge with the Chinese players (which still has it's own article), this article seems more focused on them then PMPs in general, I think the only other players mentioned are the Clix and Archos Jukebox. TMV942 23:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Why there is some cheap rip-off of Meizu M6 pictured? This isn't a PMP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.24.204 ( talk) 20:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
The History section ought to include the following things:
-- nblschool ( talk) 20:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
True, but these are considered portable media players, especially given that they now play more than just audio. Addidionally, the transition to the use of two classes of multifunction devices as PMPs(UMPCs and smartphones) should be mentioned, as these are now becoming new standards for the industry. -- nblschool ( talk) 20:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys think this article should be combined with the article: digital audio player (mp3 player)? I mean they are almost the same thing. one can only play audio files and the other can play audio and video WHRM3 ( talk) 01:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
You could as well copy the smartphone history section to the history section of this article. Nowadays nearly every phone ( smartphone or feature phone) costing more than Euro 70,- is a portable media player. Andries ( talk) 19:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The article lists that all PMP devices have screens, but there are media players that don't have screens, and are designed to be plugged into a television. Most of these aren't portable, but ones like the andisk Sansa TakeTV are designed to be very portable... Mattpace ( talk) 17:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
The topic this article covers (digital media) is already covered in that other article, so I don't see the need for duplication. -or- We could change the focus to be more general, and include analog as well as digital media. After all my old Walkman is a portable media player, even though it uses old-fashioned cassettes. ---- Theaveng ( talk) 14:51, 29 January 2010 (UTC)(jared masias was here)
Oppose because audio and media players are different. In addition the digital audio player is a long article that will lose a lot of information if merged. JDDJS ( talk) 00:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Oppose They are different things. A portable media player can be both digital and analog. And a digital audio player can be both portable and stationary. Alex³ ( talk) 14:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
No one opposing the merge has made any improvements to try and address the issues. I have performed the merge and am working on smoothing it. Let's try to improve the article in this form for a while. If it doesn't work out, we can always split. -- Kvng ( talk) 21:05, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
I think the scope of this article should be limited to devices that are either dedicated portable media players or devices that have as main function portable media players. In other words, I think this article and the corresponding category should not be mobile phones, because that would make it too broad. Andries ( talk) 22:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
How did this happen?
Under Hardware section it says that the media player can have text readers and editors. I don't this this is a hardware component. As well the device's battery or microphone is not listed as a hardware component. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.188.150 ( talk) 23:05, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
this article is placed under the categories Korean and English inventions, which doesn't make sense. Remove these? -- Makkachin ( talk) 10:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
just thought this page contains a lot of information that is neither notable or worth talking about... such as the model Cowon iAUDIO CW100.. far far far from notable. V-apharmd ( talk) 04:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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The redirect resulting from my merge from Digital audio player (discussed above) is now pointed to MP3 player. I am now proposing to merge MP3 player into this article. Aside from some early models, there's not really an audio player that does only MP3. It is possible that MP3 player could talk about non-portable players but it is not substantially doing that now and that content could go into Digital media player. ~ Kvng ( talk) 15:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
There appears to be consensus so I have completed a rough merge. I plan to make improvements to the article in the coming months. Gammbow has some good ideas for improving coverage of the topic but these are largely independent of the merge proposal and having all the content that needs work in one location should make the work easier. ~ Kvng ( talk) 17:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: Great good that the move has been done. Yes this article really needs a revamp as it is a mess currently and too many sections. I like to contribute as well -- Gammbow ( talk) 21:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: I have done a 1st cleanup of the article and it looks a bit better and less messy, but I know a lot more needs to be done from here -- Gammbow ( talk) 14:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Kvng: I have done further improvements as well as adding relevant images. Article looks much better now than it did a week ago. There's still work to be done including merging content dealing with same content (the "Typical features", "Hardware", and "Operation" sections all seem to have similar content). And also the "Chipsets" section which only talks about those cheap dubbed "MP4 players". -- Gammbow ( talk) 14:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)