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Am changing Roman Catholic to Catholic, as there are other Rites of the Catholic church, and the Pope heads them all. The Roman is merely the biggest (I always use, and have in many places on wikipedia, the example of calling the USSR "Russia".) Unfortunately, the only good article on the Catholic church as a whole is under Roman Catholic Church, which incorrectly states that the term RCC includes the Eastern Rite Catholic churches, so I am leaving the link as is. At some point, I need to figure out how to fix this, but as I am new, and it would involve a lot of page moving, etc on major topics, I am loathe to do it without really thinking through before hand how best to propose it. -- John Kenneth Fisher 13:41, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
I will remove the reference to a "Discordian pope". I know, the "discordian religion" this is a popular joke in Wikipedia, but I am deeply convinced that it is a mistake to spread this joke to the "real" Wikipedia pages. PFG
Some interesting material was recently added by Ghaly concerning the history and acceptance of the title as applied to a particular office of the Orthodox; however as can be seen in, eg, Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria, delving here into the old and conflicting claims regarding the succession to the Episcopate of Alexandria seems to serve more to ambiguate than to disambiguate. This material is perhaps better at Patriarch of Alexandria? Please comment, wiser heads. User:scbomber 09:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw your discussion and edited boldly to take account of what you have said and Manual of Style. The page now fits the WP disambig format better. The.helping.people.tick 23:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria does not in actual fact use the title "pope". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.212.126 ( talk) 23:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Building on The.helping.people.tick's recent edit, I did some reorganization here. It seemed worth a definition at the top, where the Greek and Latin were given, but not what they meant. Placing "Religious offices" before "Religious figures" seems to make more sense, and I have disambiguated the titles. Roman Catholics may want to remove the "Roman" from "Catholic", which I inadvertently replaced, but if they were truly familiar with other rites they'd know that "Pope of Rome" is how he is always commemorated in his own Eastern rite churches. I have therefore used it here to distinguish him from the other Popes in a NPOV way.
Sorry about the Discordian thing, but I don't see how a title applicable to everyone on earth can be thought of as a religious title in the same sense as the others, even to the extent Discordianism is taken seriously by its own adherents, so I'd moved it down to "Other". TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing in the MOS requiring the order in an introductory section of a dab page to be according to most common usage. Putting Alexandria first there is justifiable both in terms of chronological priority and alphabetical order.
In re: "Pope of Rome", see above. Since we are mentioning the Pope of other cities, it's entirely proper to employ this perfectly respectful, well-established form here. "Pope" not being among is official titles, there's no compelling reason to insist on "Pope" for him alone anyway. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And please note I have retained the patently offensive unqualified use of "Catholic" to refer to the church headed by the Pope of Rome. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Is "Other" the place to put 'POPE" industries, world wide makers of garden irrigation equipment for home and industry, plus a line in some countries of machines for gardens, such as lawn mowers, trimmers, hand tools (spade/fork/trowel), etc? Not really sure as I am VERY new at this wiki stuff, not really comfortable with it either so this is really a suggestion for someone else to take up, please. Thankyou. Robert Golding ( talk) 17:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
This is a disambiguation page of the term " pope". Data from section People named Pope should be moved definitely from here to pope (surname), instead of redirecting out from there to this location. -- Robsuper ( talk) 12:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
This will ensure the possibility of interwiki linking between the page "Pope (surname)" and pages "Pope" in other Wikipedias, concerning only the surname "Pope", eg. es:Pope, fi:Pope, sv:Pope (olika betydelser), or mainly the surname "Pope", eg. cs:Pope, fr:Pope (homonymie), de:Pope.
The above my suggestions derive essentially from the assumption that in Wikidata we should first take into account the disambiguation pages for the term "pope" as Bishop of Rome, and then move on to other meanings of the word "pope": surnames, geographical names, and other names. In English, you can post it all basically on the same disambiguation page (and this is now), while in other languages the issue of the word "pope" is usually recognized on a separate disambiguation page. -- Robsuper ( talk) 10:44, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I withdraw all my above proposals and suggestions. -- Robsuper ( talk) 09:25, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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Am changing Roman Catholic to Catholic, as there are other Rites of the Catholic church, and the Pope heads them all. The Roman is merely the biggest (I always use, and have in many places on wikipedia, the example of calling the USSR "Russia".) Unfortunately, the only good article on the Catholic church as a whole is under Roman Catholic Church, which incorrectly states that the term RCC includes the Eastern Rite Catholic churches, so I am leaving the link as is. At some point, I need to figure out how to fix this, but as I am new, and it would involve a lot of page moving, etc on major topics, I am loathe to do it without really thinking through before hand how best to propose it. -- John Kenneth Fisher 13:41, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
I will remove the reference to a "Discordian pope". I know, the "discordian religion" this is a popular joke in Wikipedia, but I am deeply convinced that it is a mistake to spread this joke to the "real" Wikipedia pages. PFG
Some interesting material was recently added by Ghaly concerning the history and acceptance of the title as applied to a particular office of the Orthodox; however as can be seen in, eg, Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria, delving here into the old and conflicting claims regarding the succession to the Episcopate of Alexandria seems to serve more to ambiguate than to disambiguate. This material is perhaps better at Patriarch of Alexandria? Please comment, wiser heads. User:scbomber 09:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw your discussion and edited boldly to take account of what you have said and Manual of Style. The page now fits the WP disambig format better. The.helping.people.tick 23:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria does not in actual fact use the title "pope". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.212.126 ( talk) 23:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Building on The.helping.people.tick's recent edit, I did some reorganization here. It seemed worth a definition at the top, where the Greek and Latin were given, but not what they meant. Placing "Religious offices" before "Religious figures" seems to make more sense, and I have disambiguated the titles. Roman Catholics may want to remove the "Roman" from "Catholic", which I inadvertently replaced, but if they were truly familiar with other rites they'd know that "Pope of Rome" is how he is always commemorated in his own Eastern rite churches. I have therefore used it here to distinguish him from the other Popes in a NPOV way.
Sorry about the Discordian thing, but I don't see how a title applicable to everyone on earth can be thought of as a religious title in the same sense as the others, even to the extent Discordianism is taken seriously by its own adherents, so I'd moved it down to "Other". TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
There is nothing in the MOS requiring the order in an introductory section of a dab page to be according to most common usage. Putting Alexandria first there is justifiable both in terms of chronological priority and alphabetical order.
In re: "Pope of Rome", see above. Since we are mentioning the Pope of other cities, it's entirely proper to employ this perfectly respectful, well-established form here. "Pope" not being among is official titles, there's no compelling reason to insist on "Pope" for him alone anyway. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And please note I have retained the patently offensive unqualified use of "Catholic" to refer to the church headed by the Pope of Rome. TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Is "Other" the place to put 'POPE" industries, world wide makers of garden irrigation equipment for home and industry, plus a line in some countries of machines for gardens, such as lawn mowers, trimmers, hand tools (spade/fork/trowel), etc? Not really sure as I am VERY new at this wiki stuff, not really comfortable with it either so this is really a suggestion for someone else to take up, please. Thankyou. Robert Golding ( talk) 17:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
This is a disambiguation page of the term " pope". Data from section People named Pope should be moved definitely from here to pope (surname), instead of redirecting out from there to this location. -- Robsuper ( talk) 12:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
This will ensure the possibility of interwiki linking between the page "Pope (surname)" and pages "Pope" in other Wikipedias, concerning only the surname "Pope", eg. es:Pope, fi:Pope, sv:Pope (olika betydelser), or mainly the surname "Pope", eg. cs:Pope, fr:Pope (homonymie), de:Pope.
The above my suggestions derive essentially from the assumption that in Wikidata we should first take into account the disambiguation pages for the term "pope" as Bishop of Rome, and then move on to other meanings of the word "pope": surnames, geographical names, and other names. In English, you can post it all basically on the same disambiguation page (and this is now), while in other languages the issue of the word "pope" is usually recognized on a separate disambiguation page. -- Robsuper ( talk) 10:44, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I withdraw all my above proposals and suggestions. -- Robsuper ( talk) 09:25, 12 November 2013 (UTC)