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Hydrogen polonide is referred to as "hydropolonic acid" in some other Wikipedia articles. On the other hand, hydrogen astatide is described to have properties rather like a metal hydride, because astatine is slightly more electropositive than hydrogen and highly polarizable, possibly resulting in the dissociation of HAt in H- and At+. Of course this is only an estimation, but if this is true for HAt, the same thing must also be true for H2Po, since polonium has an even lower electronegativity than astatine and a comparable polarizability... -- 79.243.235.94 ( talk) 17:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Personaly I think that the article name and all places which "Polonium hyride" is/are mentioned should be changed to Hydrogen polonide. I have decided this because other articles on hydrides of Group 16 elements (excluding oxygen) start with the Group 16 element's name; eg. Hydrogen Sulfide, Hydrogen selenide, Hydrogen telluride. I conclude that this article should then be name Hydrogen Polonide insted of Polonium hydride because it would look more neat as opposed to Polonium hydride. Hyperclassic ( talk) 02:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1503/1503.08587.pdf Double sharp ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
The infobox image File:Polonium-hydride-2D-dimensions.svg, gives geometric measurements of rH–Po=171 pm and θ=88°. There is no article content about the geometry, nor any cite in the infobox, nor any cite on the file description page, nor any cite or commentary in the ru:Гидрид полония(II) article for which the image was originally/apparently created. The only ref I can find so far is:
which calculates r=1.835 Å and θ=90.9°. Does anyone know any more-recent data? I'm going to remove the infobox image as "disputed", and already tagged the image itself on commons and left a question about its origin on its creator's talkpage (though that editor has been inactive for over a year). DMacks ( talk) 21:33, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
The article says: "It is predicted that, like the other hydrogen chalcogenides, polonium may form two types of salts: polonide (containing the Po2− anion) and one from polonium hydride (containing –PoH, which would be the polonium analogue of thiol, selenol and tellurol)." However, the second type of salt should be acid salt containing HPo− anion (hydrogen polonide ion), an analogue of e.g. bisulfate, as opposed to thiol, selenol or tellurol, which are covalent organic compounds and not salts. Szaszicska ( talk) 22:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hydrogen polonide is referred to as "hydropolonic acid" in some other Wikipedia articles. On the other hand, hydrogen astatide is described to have properties rather like a metal hydride, because astatine is slightly more electropositive than hydrogen and highly polarizable, possibly resulting in the dissociation of HAt in H- and At+. Of course this is only an estimation, but if this is true for HAt, the same thing must also be true for H2Po, since polonium has an even lower electronegativity than astatine and a comparable polarizability... -- 79.243.235.94 ( talk) 17:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Personaly I think that the article name and all places which "Polonium hyride" is/are mentioned should be changed to Hydrogen polonide. I have decided this because other articles on hydrides of Group 16 elements (excluding oxygen) start with the Group 16 element's name; eg. Hydrogen Sulfide, Hydrogen selenide, Hydrogen telluride. I conclude that this article should then be name Hydrogen Polonide insted of Polonium hydride because it would look more neat as opposed to Polonium hydride. Hyperclassic ( talk) 02:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1503/1503.08587.pdf Double sharp ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
The infobox image File:Polonium-hydride-2D-dimensions.svg, gives geometric measurements of rH–Po=171 pm and θ=88°. There is no article content about the geometry, nor any cite in the infobox, nor any cite on the file description page, nor any cite or commentary in the ru:Гидрид полония(II) article for which the image was originally/apparently created. The only ref I can find so far is:
which calculates r=1.835 Å and θ=90.9°. Does anyone know any more-recent data? I'm going to remove the infobox image as "disputed", and already tagged the image itself on commons and left a question about its origin on its creator's talkpage (though that editor has been inactive for over a year). DMacks ( talk) 21:33, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
The article says: "It is predicted that, like the other hydrogen chalcogenides, polonium may form two types of salts: polonide (containing the Po2− anion) and one from polonium hydride (containing –PoH, which would be the polonium analogue of thiol, selenol and tellurol)." However, the second type of salt should be acid salt containing HPo− anion (hydrogen polonide ion), an analogue of e.g. bisulfate, as opposed to thiol, selenol or tellurol, which are covalent organic compounds and not salts. Szaszicska ( talk) 22:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)