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What now stands on the site? -- 71.102.144.27 03:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
New York City Housing Authority operates two units on the site. One is the Charles Rangel Houses, the other is the aptly-named Polo Grounds Towers. The area is referred to as "The Polo Grounds" by local residents, especially Black New Yorkers, who use the term to define both the two public housing complexes and Rucker Playground which is across the street (east side of Frederick Douglass Ave and north side of 155th). Rucker Playground is famous for street basketball tournaments and is a popular weekend hangout for local basketball players and other youths.
Since we're talking baseball, it should be noted that from Rucker Playground or from any east-facing window in the projects on the site, there was a clear view of old Yankee stadium. Not sure about the new one, I haven't been to NYC since July.
The article is confusing. It says that the Polo Grounds were "bounded on the south and north by 110th and 112th Streets, and the east and west by Fifth and Sixth Avenues, just uptown of Central Park," and yet in the side bar it says: "Location West 155th Street and Eighth Avenue, New York, New York". Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.44.41.68 ( talk) 15:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The paragraph contained within the soccer section of this page keeps being removed but I feel that it not only is an important part of the history of the Polo Grounds but also a very significant turning point in American sport and should remain. Had the Baseball owners achieved what they set out to do with the soccer idea it could, and probably would have changed the face of American sports totally from the framework we know today in three ways. Firstly soccer would almost certainly be either the biggest or second biggest sport in the USA today. Football may well have never become a major sport and possibly even could have been outlawed in the early 1900s making it a forgotten extinct sport today. Amazing as this seems this nearly happened even without soccer popularity. Thirdly each citie's Baseball, soccer, football {if there was any}, basketball, hockey, lacrosse, rugby etc...teams would quite possibly have all been run by the same owners {perhaps the city itself} under the same name. As an example the New York Giants would today have been one organisation playing a wide range of professional sports under the one title. Similar to the Spanish model where Real Madrid play a host of sports other than soccer for which it is famous. Captainbeecher
Should this article be split into four articles for each of the four distinct Polo Grounds, or is this article like this for some other reason?-- CrazyTalk 21:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, the so-called "III" and "IV" were the same diamond just surrounded by wooden (III) or concrete (IV) stands, so they were really the same park. And "II" was right nextdoor. "I" was 45 blocks south or so. Now, how would you do the disambiguation on it? To put it another way, is there really enough info to warrant separate pages for I and II? I just checked Madison Square Garden, and it was done this same way. Even though they are separate buildings, there is an implied continuum... just like the N.Y. Giants and the S.F. Giants are on the same page, although maybe that's a poor analogy, since they didn't physically move the ballparks. Wahkeenah 21:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there a source for this? I assume the implication is that one of Babe Ruth's home runs from the Bronx was said, quite hyperbolically, to have landed in Manhattan field, but to someone who wouldn't know it sounds like the shot in question was hit in the Polo Grounds, which would still be hyperbole but considerably less so. Can someone clarify? Thanks. Chick Bowen 21:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
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Yale traditionally played football in the Polo Grounds in the 19th century for their most highly attended games. Their Thanksgiving rivalry game against Harvard was attended by 24,000 spectators in the stadium, marking the arrival of college football as a significant cultural phenomenon.
Which game? When? -- Chancemichaels 19:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)Chancemichaels
I've inserted the dates and citation in the section on Polo Grounds I. bobhymes —Preceding comment was added at 20:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I've changed "Eighth Avenue Elevated" back to "Ninth Avenue Elevated" as in the text I had originally added. Although the northern terminus of this elevated line was at 155th and Eighth Avenue, at the time the entire line was called the "Ninth Avenue Elevated" because it originated in Ninth Avenue, all the way down at South Ferry at the southern end of Manhattan. From Ninth Avenue the line made a sharp turn east into 110th Street followed by a sharp turn north into Eighth Avenue, creating the S-curve that would later be known as the "Suicide Curve" because of its height and because at least one person did attempt suicide from the El tracks at this point. Bobhymes ( talk) 02:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The article lists in the summary section on the right of the page that the NY Giants owned the stadium. Who owned it after they left town in 1958? Maybe the new owner should be listed underneath with the dates effective. Kochamanita ( talk) 00:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Something doesn't seem right with the description on this image. It would appear in this image that what appears to be Coogan's Bluff and the Morris-Jumel Mansion (with flag waving) are in the background in the same position as they are in the later photos of the Polo Grounds. However Polo Grounds I (circa 1882) was at 117th Street and the later ones were at 157th Street. It's possible that the background is a different building and bluff but it sure looks a lot like the later Polo Grounds. Americasroof ( talk) 16:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Edited to indicate that the stadium known as Polo Grounds III opened up as host for the Players League version of the New York Giants and that the National League Giants did not take possession until the next year after the Players League folded. Vidor ( talk) 08:37, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
This article lists three parks called the Polo Grounds, but "Green Cathedrals" by Philip Lowry lists five. Trying to correlate that with Wikipedia is a bit confusing. Lowry seems to classify I and II as separate parks, with two diamonds occupying the same property, i.e. "a huge park". Lowry's Polo III, according to the text, was next to Polo IV. Lowry's Polo V was built on the same site as Polo IV after the latter burned down. So as far as this Wiki article is concerned, Polo Grounds I equals Lowry's Polo I and II, and Wiki's Polo Grounds III equals Lowry's Polo IV and V. Does that sound right? Elsquared ( talk) 00:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
The article states:
The 110th street location and the 1876 to 1889 timeframes are not consistent with street maps available from that era. For example, numerous contemporary maps show that 111th Street extended the full width of Manhanttan Island from 1874, with 111th Street running between Fifth and Sixth Avenues seemingly since many years earlier. [This map from 1873 shows 111th street is interrupted, but between 9th and 10th avenue, while this map from 1874 shows it uninterrupted the width of the island.]
The 110th Street location is given without any reference, as is the account of the park's closing. There is reason to doubt the correctness of either the location [see the discussion above regarding the background depicted in the 1882 image], or the other information given in this article. -- A Carbine Flash ( talk) 21:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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What now stands on the site? -- 71.102.144.27 03:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
New York City Housing Authority operates two units on the site. One is the Charles Rangel Houses, the other is the aptly-named Polo Grounds Towers. The area is referred to as "The Polo Grounds" by local residents, especially Black New Yorkers, who use the term to define both the two public housing complexes and Rucker Playground which is across the street (east side of Frederick Douglass Ave and north side of 155th). Rucker Playground is famous for street basketball tournaments and is a popular weekend hangout for local basketball players and other youths.
Since we're talking baseball, it should be noted that from Rucker Playground or from any east-facing window in the projects on the site, there was a clear view of old Yankee stadium. Not sure about the new one, I haven't been to NYC since July.
The article is confusing. It says that the Polo Grounds were "bounded on the south and north by 110th and 112th Streets, and the east and west by Fifth and Sixth Avenues, just uptown of Central Park," and yet in the side bar it says: "Location West 155th Street and Eighth Avenue, New York, New York". Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.44.41.68 ( talk) 15:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The paragraph contained within the soccer section of this page keeps being removed but I feel that it not only is an important part of the history of the Polo Grounds but also a very significant turning point in American sport and should remain. Had the Baseball owners achieved what they set out to do with the soccer idea it could, and probably would have changed the face of American sports totally from the framework we know today in three ways. Firstly soccer would almost certainly be either the biggest or second biggest sport in the USA today. Football may well have never become a major sport and possibly even could have been outlawed in the early 1900s making it a forgotten extinct sport today. Amazing as this seems this nearly happened even without soccer popularity. Thirdly each citie's Baseball, soccer, football {if there was any}, basketball, hockey, lacrosse, rugby etc...teams would quite possibly have all been run by the same owners {perhaps the city itself} under the same name. As an example the New York Giants would today have been one organisation playing a wide range of professional sports under the one title. Similar to the Spanish model where Real Madrid play a host of sports other than soccer for which it is famous. Captainbeecher
Should this article be split into four articles for each of the four distinct Polo Grounds, or is this article like this for some other reason?-- CrazyTalk 21:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, the so-called "III" and "IV" were the same diamond just surrounded by wooden (III) or concrete (IV) stands, so they were really the same park. And "II" was right nextdoor. "I" was 45 blocks south or so. Now, how would you do the disambiguation on it? To put it another way, is there really enough info to warrant separate pages for I and II? I just checked Madison Square Garden, and it was done this same way. Even though they are separate buildings, there is an implied continuum... just like the N.Y. Giants and the S.F. Giants are on the same page, although maybe that's a poor analogy, since they didn't physically move the ballparks. Wahkeenah 21:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there a source for this? I assume the implication is that one of Babe Ruth's home runs from the Bronx was said, quite hyperbolically, to have landed in Manhattan field, but to someone who wouldn't know it sounds like the shot in question was hit in the Polo Grounds, which would still be hyperbole but considerably less so. Can someone clarify? Thanks. Chick Bowen 21:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
This statement needs a citation:
Yale traditionally played football in the Polo Grounds in the 19th century for their most highly attended games. Their Thanksgiving rivalry game against Harvard was attended by 24,000 spectators in the stadium, marking the arrival of college football as a significant cultural phenomenon.
Which game? When? -- Chancemichaels 19:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)Chancemichaels
I've inserted the dates and citation in the section on Polo Grounds I. bobhymes —Preceding comment was added at 20:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I've changed "Eighth Avenue Elevated" back to "Ninth Avenue Elevated" as in the text I had originally added. Although the northern terminus of this elevated line was at 155th and Eighth Avenue, at the time the entire line was called the "Ninth Avenue Elevated" because it originated in Ninth Avenue, all the way down at South Ferry at the southern end of Manhattan. From Ninth Avenue the line made a sharp turn east into 110th Street followed by a sharp turn north into Eighth Avenue, creating the S-curve that would later be known as the "Suicide Curve" because of its height and because at least one person did attempt suicide from the El tracks at this point. Bobhymes ( talk) 02:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The article lists in the summary section on the right of the page that the NY Giants owned the stadium. Who owned it after they left town in 1958? Maybe the new owner should be listed underneath with the dates effective. Kochamanita ( talk) 00:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Something doesn't seem right with the description on this image. It would appear in this image that what appears to be Coogan's Bluff and the Morris-Jumel Mansion (with flag waving) are in the background in the same position as they are in the later photos of the Polo Grounds. However Polo Grounds I (circa 1882) was at 117th Street and the later ones were at 157th Street. It's possible that the background is a different building and bluff but it sure looks a lot like the later Polo Grounds. Americasroof ( talk) 16:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Edited to indicate that the stadium known as Polo Grounds III opened up as host for the Players League version of the New York Giants and that the National League Giants did not take possession until the next year after the Players League folded. Vidor ( talk) 08:37, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
This article lists three parks called the Polo Grounds, but "Green Cathedrals" by Philip Lowry lists five. Trying to correlate that with Wikipedia is a bit confusing. Lowry seems to classify I and II as separate parks, with two diamonds occupying the same property, i.e. "a huge park". Lowry's Polo III, according to the text, was next to Polo IV. Lowry's Polo V was built on the same site as Polo IV after the latter burned down. So as far as this Wiki article is concerned, Polo Grounds I equals Lowry's Polo I and II, and Wiki's Polo Grounds III equals Lowry's Polo IV and V. Does that sound right? Elsquared ( talk) 00:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
The article states:
The 110th street location and the 1876 to 1889 timeframes are not consistent with street maps available from that era. For example, numerous contemporary maps show that 111th Street extended the full width of Manhanttan Island from 1874, with 111th Street running between Fifth and Sixth Avenues seemingly since many years earlier. [This map from 1873 shows 111th street is interrupted, but between 9th and 10th avenue, while this map from 1874 shows it uninterrupted the width of the island.]
The 110th Street location is given without any reference, as is the account of the park's closing. There is reason to doubt the correctness of either the location [see the discussion above regarding the background depicted in the 1882 image], or the other information given in this article. -- A Carbine Flash ( talk) 21:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 21:23, 11 December 2018 (UTC)