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Dukemeiser 17:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
can this article be moved to polled gene as a section, /*cattle*/, and similar section created for sheep?
I don't really think there is sufficient material for two articles.
The article Poll Merino has a good discussion of the poll gene (espec. as relates to merinos) Ga rr ie 02:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
"Polled" means without horns, naturally or not. A polled animal may have had its horns cut off, may have been disbudded (the horn buds burnt out when young) or it may be naturally polled. The term "naturally polled" is only needed because it is one of several kinds of polling. The definition and article title are therefore inaccurate.
I've removed breeds from the list which are not normally polled naturally.
I think there is probably a need for the following articles:
A similar list for sheep breeds might well be too complex, because it would have to cover all the various arrangements – polled in male and female, in female only, in neither, or with multiple horn pairs. It would be better to cover it in List of sheep breeds -- Richard New Forest ( talk) 18:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
These articles should not be merged, the content is extremely different. They both could stand expansion, but the difference is almost like comparing apples to "road apples" LOL! The poll on an animal is, depending on who you talk to, either the poll joint between the occipital crest and C1, or another name for the occipital area itself. Polled livestock are animals that normally could have horns but don't. Horses, for example, have a poll, and it is very important in riding, but they cannot nor never could be polled livestock! Montanabw (talk) 07:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 16:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Whether we move this to Naturally polled livestock or even just Naturally polled, we should then have a simple disambiguation page at Polled livestock, distinguishing between Naturally polled livestock and animals subject to Livestock dehorning, plus listing Poll (livestock) as a see-also. This would be a distinctly useful exception to WP:TWODABS, because henceforth any linking to Polled livestock will result in a DLP bot notice, allowing the editor who did it to instead link to the proper article easily.
Regardless of the move, every livestock article that makes reference to that variety being "polled", without clarifying whether this means naturally polled or traditionally subject to dehorning (some breeds are are, some not), needs to be tagged with {{ clarify}} until sources are checked and the text clarified. It's a very major difference.
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Dukemeiser 17:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
can this article be moved to polled gene as a section, /*cattle*/, and similar section created for sheep?
I don't really think there is sufficient material for two articles.
The article Poll Merino has a good discussion of the poll gene (espec. as relates to merinos) Ga rr ie 02:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
"Polled" means without horns, naturally or not. A polled animal may have had its horns cut off, may have been disbudded (the horn buds burnt out when young) or it may be naturally polled. The term "naturally polled" is only needed because it is one of several kinds of polling. The definition and article title are therefore inaccurate.
I've removed breeds from the list which are not normally polled naturally.
I think there is probably a need for the following articles:
A similar list for sheep breeds might well be too complex, because it would have to cover all the various arrangements – polled in male and female, in female only, in neither, or with multiple horn pairs. It would be better to cover it in List of sheep breeds -- Richard New Forest ( talk) 18:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
These articles should not be merged, the content is extremely different. They both could stand expansion, but the difference is almost like comparing apples to "road apples" LOL! The poll on an animal is, depending on who you talk to, either the poll joint between the occipital crest and C1, or another name for the occipital area itself. Polled livestock are animals that normally could have horns but don't. Horses, for example, have a poll, and it is very important in riding, but they cannot nor never could be polled livestock! Montanabw (talk) 07:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 16:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Whether we move this to Naturally polled livestock or even just Naturally polled, we should then have a simple disambiguation page at Polled livestock, distinguishing between Naturally polled livestock and animals subject to Livestock dehorning, plus listing Poll (livestock) as a see-also. This would be a distinctly useful exception to WP:TWODABS, because henceforth any linking to Polled livestock will result in a DLP bot notice, allowing the editor who did it to instead link to the proper article easily.
Regardless of the move, every livestock article that makes reference to that variety being "polled", without clarifying whether this means naturally polled or traditionally subject to dehorning (some breeds are are, some not), needs to be tagged with {{ clarify}} until sources are checked and the text clarified. It's a very major difference.
— SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 07:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)