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To be added-- Golden Wattle talk 07:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I've spent a bit of time cleaning this page up. I've got rid of a lot of over-linking, made terminology consistent, removed needless postnominal letters, added some facts (eg. Joseph Lyons was Premier and Leader of the Opposition in Tasmania before he was federal Opposition Leader and Prime Minister; Ray Groom was an MHR and Fraser govt Minister before his first retirement, and before resurrecting his career to become Premier of Tasmania; Justin O'Byrne was the first and by far the most prominent of the O'Byrnes, viz. President and Father of the Senate, but he wasn't mentioned at all), and some other tweaks.
I've also given some thought to formatting, and I'm trying out a tabular format on the Hodgman family. Any comments would be appreciated before I extend this idea any further. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I've long believed Peter Baume is related to Michael Baume but my searches have failed to confirm this adequately. Here, John Button calls them "cousin"s, but that could just be a generic reference to some shared ancestry. Anything better on the record? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
How should we represent families with different surnames, e.g. Jack Melloy, Elaine Darling and Vicky Darling (3 generations)? Once - if so which surname do you pick? Under as many surnames as it takes?
Also how closely related do they need to be? Walter Russell Crampton is a cousin or cousin-once-removed from Jack Melloy.
Thanks Kerry ( talk) 19:56, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
What is the benchmark for getting a section in the article for a family, rather than the "other" section? What does the bold represent? What do the italics represent? Some additions from Tas politics that I will update at some stage:
-- Chuq (talk) 00:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the distinction between the separate categories and the "others" would be less weird if StAnselm's suggestion from 2010 had been applied. That would take care of the Albanese-Tebbutt, Bacon, Berry, Groom, Jenkins, Lavarch, O'Byrne, Ogilvie, Page, Purick, Thomson, Willis, Wooldridge and Wright families.
However, that also removes about half the "Others" section, which makes me wonder what its purpose is. It also leaves out a number of families that are still pretty significant - i.e. both generations of the Lawrie family in the NT have been significant players in politics in the NT, are one of the only mother-daughter combinations in the list, and they're in "Others". If they and equivalent others were taken out too, is it worth having a separate section for the handful of families like the Vennings, significant mainly for their contribution to spending decades on the backbenches? The Drover's Wife ( talk) 03:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Since the details of each person is presumably properly referenced in his/her's own entry, I fail to understand what kind of citations needs to be added. Trahelliven ( talk) 23:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
The lede definition states:
but the recent mass deletion by @ JML1148: begs the definition of "political family" and there can be no clear definition, but just two members is clearly sufficient if they are both distinguished and close relatives, e.g. the two South Australian Premiers, Thomas Playford II and his grandson Thomas Playford IV. Doug butler ( talk) 21:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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To be added-- Golden Wattle talk 07:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I've spent a bit of time cleaning this page up. I've got rid of a lot of over-linking, made terminology consistent, removed needless postnominal letters, added some facts (eg. Joseph Lyons was Premier and Leader of the Opposition in Tasmania before he was federal Opposition Leader and Prime Minister; Ray Groom was an MHR and Fraser govt Minister before his first retirement, and before resurrecting his career to become Premier of Tasmania; Justin O'Byrne was the first and by far the most prominent of the O'Byrnes, viz. President and Father of the Senate, but he wasn't mentioned at all), and some other tweaks.
I've also given some thought to formatting, and I'm trying out a tabular format on the Hodgman family. Any comments would be appreciated before I extend this idea any further. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I've long believed Peter Baume is related to Michael Baume but my searches have failed to confirm this adequately. Here, John Button calls them "cousin"s, but that could just be a generic reference to some shared ancestry. Anything better on the record? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
How should we represent families with different surnames, e.g. Jack Melloy, Elaine Darling and Vicky Darling (3 generations)? Once - if so which surname do you pick? Under as many surnames as it takes?
Also how closely related do they need to be? Walter Russell Crampton is a cousin or cousin-once-removed from Jack Melloy.
Thanks Kerry ( talk) 19:56, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
What is the benchmark for getting a section in the article for a family, rather than the "other" section? What does the bold represent? What do the italics represent? Some additions from Tas politics that I will update at some stage:
-- Chuq (talk) 00:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the distinction between the separate categories and the "others" would be less weird if StAnselm's suggestion from 2010 had been applied. That would take care of the Albanese-Tebbutt, Bacon, Berry, Groom, Jenkins, Lavarch, O'Byrne, Ogilvie, Page, Purick, Thomson, Willis, Wooldridge and Wright families.
However, that also removes about half the "Others" section, which makes me wonder what its purpose is. It also leaves out a number of families that are still pretty significant - i.e. both generations of the Lawrie family in the NT have been significant players in politics in the NT, are one of the only mother-daughter combinations in the list, and they're in "Others". If they and equivalent others were taken out too, is it worth having a separate section for the handful of families like the Vennings, significant mainly for their contribution to spending decades on the backbenches? The Drover's Wife ( talk) 03:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Since the details of each person is presumably properly referenced in his/her's own entry, I fail to understand what kind of citations needs to be added. Trahelliven ( talk) 23:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
The lede definition states:
but the recent mass deletion by @ JML1148: begs the definition of "political family" and there can be no clear definition, but just two members is clearly sufficient if they are both distinguished and close relatives, e.g. the two South Australian Premiers, Thomas Playford II and his grandson Thomas Playford IV. Doug butler ( talk) 21:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)