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They fixed it in case there is still interest in this topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.11.178 ( talk) 08:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
"Some speculate that Google placed this ad itself" ??! No realy, who would think that.
You have a point there. I will fix it up. 60.229.148.32 12:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
The text itself seems to be a carbon-copy of the BBCs article on this. Is that a problem? - Drrngrvy 03:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I thought it came from "It's a Wonderful Life." Mr. Potter says, "I suppose it should give [my money] to miserable failures like you and that idiot brother of yours to spend for me." ________________________________________________________
I'm guessing Dick Gephardt wasn't the first ever person to use the phrase "miserable failure". But the use by him is the origin of the Internet phenomenon: "These are important issues. This president is a miserable failure on foreign policy ... and on the economy. And he's got to be replaced" is what he said in the debate. Georgeslegloupier 09:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to call into question the "fact" that Mr. Adam Mathes is the "inventor" of google (political) bombing. I am quite certain that it began long before Mr. Adam Mathes ever wrote about the subject.
I typed in "Miserable Failure" to Wikipedia, and half expected there to be a redirect page to
George W. Bush :)
Would have been kind-of amusing.
EuroSong
18:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that has been vandalized before, it's just that it gets reverted within 10-minutes after the vandalism. 24.129.99.96 22:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Yoda921 08:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Yoda
Why is it assumed that:
1) The other bombs were retaliation?
2) Why assume Bush supporters?
Hillary Clinton doesn't fit too well in that mold considering that it takes a good long time to get a googlebomb working, and she's only recently been speculated to be a candidate for the upcoming election. I'd suggest retitling it as "other political googlebombs" or something similar.
Just an idea if anyone wants to look into it. I remember once searching for "go to hell" brought up Microsoft as the first result, it made a few headlines. A few days later it was gone. No idea if those results were doctored by Google but I wonder if Google decided to doctor one set of results but not another?
I've been trying to keep the article on the phrase " Worst president ever" NPOV, but it looks like it's going to be deleted anyway. Does anyone have any objection if I merge the (admittedly little) information from that article into this one in a few days? Rizzleboffin 06:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged into this master one. The other is redundant. rootology ( T) 18:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Google bomb is also a seperate article, this is specific to Bush and Bush-derivative google bombs. As Great President is a one-off reference with substantially less quanity of content as this article, it should be merged into this article. This article can then be reviewed if it should be renamed as a seperate action. And its nothing to do with POV, simply fact. rootology ( T) 19:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC) Waffles (John Kerry) really should be merged here too. This has nothing to do with balance, but simple how Wikipedia is done--they don't merit seperate articles as the content is covered here. Wikipedia is NOT a platform for politics or political expression, it's to report cited notable facts of relevant nature. rootology ( T) 19:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I've started the process of rewriting to encompass the general political google bombs. My goal is to reorganize it a little bit without removing information pertinent to politics. I think deleting some of the fluff that is generally related to google bombs should be deleted and redirected to the "google bomb" page. Also, there is some OR stuff such as the screen capture of a google search or references that are searches generated by the editors that need to be deleted. There is enough external references that I think most of the claims are valid. THis is still WIP and I haven't edited anything below the Kerry bomb. I also left a pargraph at the top about Gore that needs to be moved. Since I didn't get to that section yet, I left it at the top so I wouldn't lose it. It should go into either a "Notable Other section" or somewhere else. There is no reason to have the Gore "miserable loser" bomb at the top. --
Tbeatty
06:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The link on the page now links to the Democratic national campaign... should this be updated? Cmcl14 23:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Between October 16 and October 25, this article named "Winston Smith" (the character from Nineteen Eighty-Four) as Google Director of Consumer Web Products. This edit was inserted by America jones. I have inserted the correct name, Marissa Mayer, and posted a {{test2}} warning to his/her User Talk page (where a previous {{test1}} warning had been removed and replaced with nonsense text.) — IslandGyrl 17:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
My edits were to remove POV descriptions ("by leftists", "Democratic operatives and wonks", etc) and to make sure that other text meets WP:V tests (specifically the info on Gephardt - none of the refs given indicates that he called for "association" of the term with Bush; the refs do agree that he mentioned it in a speech Sept 3rd (over a month before the Google-bombing started), and other sources indicate he used it "commonly" in reference to the Administration during that fall. Also, the refs all validate that the initial suggestion came from the blogger's site, not as User:RunedChozo inidicates "Democratic operatives". I invite other editors (and RunedChozo) to check the refs and either give references for the current text, or switch it to a more WP:NPOV and verifiable version as I tried to. Thanks. jesup 22:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added this tag because words like "wonk" and "bio" apprar. An encyclopedia, shouldn't use these terms. -- Selmo ( talk) 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
The link from Tyhmä lehmä (to "Tyhmä lehmä Karpela") seems wrong, mainly in that it includes her old surname, but also because "Tyhmä lehmä" now finds www.tanjakarpela.net, all three words now don't. User:81.174.241.81 22 November 2006.
Is there any proof that the sentence:
is correct. That is, is it confirmed that the effort launched by Democrat partisans rather than Greens supporters or even apolitical pranksters? Ashmoo 23:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
See: [1]-- Steven X 11:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
And: [2]. We should include this in the article.-- Steven X 11:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Well it leads to this page; so I suppose it's close enough. Not really. That's partly because the page contains the word "failure."
Yoda921 14:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Yoda
But they go to the article "Political google bombs," rather than the main page. So in theory, it doesn't really count.
DarthSidious 12:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)DarthSidious
It might be worth mentioning on the article Google bombs from other countries, a good example is on google nz (www.google.co.nz) and searching "clueless", it comes up with the main site/ blog of the opposition leader John Key.
heres the link if you want to have a look [3]
This article isn't so much about Political Google bombs themselves (which are actually described in more detail at Google bomb, but more about the particular Bush & Kerry bombs. As such, i propose this article be renamed to Political Google bombs in the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election and simply linked to from Google bomb. -- ZimZalaBim talk 13:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
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They fixed it in case there is still interest in this topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.11.178 ( talk) 08:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
"Some speculate that Google placed this ad itself" ??! No realy, who would think that.
You have a point there. I will fix it up. 60.229.148.32 12:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
The text itself seems to be a carbon-copy of the BBCs article on this. Is that a problem? - Drrngrvy 03:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I thought it came from "It's a Wonderful Life." Mr. Potter says, "I suppose it should give [my money] to miserable failures like you and that idiot brother of yours to spend for me." ________________________________________________________
I'm guessing Dick Gephardt wasn't the first ever person to use the phrase "miserable failure". But the use by him is the origin of the Internet phenomenon: "These are important issues. This president is a miserable failure on foreign policy ... and on the economy. And he's got to be replaced" is what he said in the debate. Georgeslegloupier 09:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to call into question the "fact" that Mr. Adam Mathes is the "inventor" of google (political) bombing. I am quite certain that it began long before Mr. Adam Mathes ever wrote about the subject.
I typed in "Miserable Failure" to Wikipedia, and half expected there to be a redirect page to
George W. Bush :)
Would have been kind-of amusing.
EuroSong
18:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that has been vandalized before, it's just that it gets reverted within 10-minutes after the vandalism. 24.129.99.96 22:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Yoda921 08:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)Yoda
Why is it assumed that:
1) The other bombs were retaliation?
2) Why assume Bush supporters?
Hillary Clinton doesn't fit too well in that mold considering that it takes a good long time to get a googlebomb working, and she's only recently been speculated to be a candidate for the upcoming election. I'd suggest retitling it as "other political googlebombs" or something similar.
Just an idea if anyone wants to look into it. I remember once searching for "go to hell" brought up Microsoft as the first result, it made a few headlines. A few days later it was gone. No idea if those results were doctored by Google but I wonder if Google decided to doctor one set of results but not another?
I've been trying to keep the article on the phrase " Worst president ever" NPOV, but it looks like it's going to be deleted anyway. Does anyone have any objection if I merge the (admittedly little) information from that article into this one in a few days? Rizzleboffin 06:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged into this master one. The other is redundant. rootology ( T) 18:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Google bomb is also a seperate article, this is specific to Bush and Bush-derivative google bombs. As Great President is a one-off reference with substantially less quanity of content as this article, it should be merged into this article. This article can then be reviewed if it should be renamed as a seperate action. And its nothing to do with POV, simply fact. rootology ( T) 19:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC) Waffles (John Kerry) really should be merged here too. This has nothing to do with balance, but simple how Wikipedia is done--they don't merit seperate articles as the content is covered here. Wikipedia is NOT a platform for politics or political expression, it's to report cited notable facts of relevant nature. rootology ( T) 19:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I've started the process of rewriting to encompass the general political google bombs. My goal is to reorganize it a little bit without removing information pertinent to politics. I think deleting some of the fluff that is generally related to google bombs should be deleted and redirected to the "google bomb" page. Also, there is some OR stuff such as the screen capture of a google search or references that are searches generated by the editors that need to be deleted. There is enough external references that I think most of the claims are valid. THis is still WIP and I haven't edited anything below the Kerry bomb. I also left a pargraph at the top about Gore that needs to be moved. Since I didn't get to that section yet, I left it at the top so I wouldn't lose it. It should go into either a "Notable Other section" or somewhere else. There is no reason to have the Gore "miserable loser" bomb at the top. --
Tbeatty
06:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The link on the page now links to the Democratic national campaign... should this be updated? Cmcl14 23:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Between October 16 and October 25, this article named "Winston Smith" (the character from Nineteen Eighty-Four) as Google Director of Consumer Web Products. This edit was inserted by America jones. I have inserted the correct name, Marissa Mayer, and posted a {{test2}} warning to his/her User Talk page (where a previous {{test1}} warning had been removed and replaced with nonsense text.) — IslandGyrl 17:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
My edits were to remove POV descriptions ("by leftists", "Democratic operatives and wonks", etc) and to make sure that other text meets WP:V tests (specifically the info on Gephardt - none of the refs given indicates that he called for "association" of the term with Bush; the refs do agree that he mentioned it in a speech Sept 3rd (over a month before the Google-bombing started), and other sources indicate he used it "commonly" in reference to the Administration during that fall. Also, the refs all validate that the initial suggestion came from the blogger's site, not as User:RunedChozo inidicates "Democratic operatives". I invite other editors (and RunedChozo) to check the refs and either give references for the current text, or switch it to a more WP:NPOV and verifiable version as I tried to. Thanks. jesup 22:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added this tag because words like "wonk" and "bio" apprar. An encyclopedia, shouldn't use these terms. -- Selmo ( talk) 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
The link from Tyhmä lehmä (to "Tyhmä lehmä Karpela") seems wrong, mainly in that it includes her old surname, but also because "Tyhmä lehmä" now finds www.tanjakarpela.net, all three words now don't. User:81.174.241.81 22 November 2006.
Is there any proof that the sentence:
is correct. That is, is it confirmed that the effort launched by Democrat partisans rather than Greens supporters or even apolitical pranksters? Ashmoo 23:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
See: [1]-- Steven X 11:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
And: [2]. We should include this in the article.-- Steven X 11:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Well it leads to this page; so I suppose it's close enough. Not really. That's partly because the page contains the word "failure."
Yoda921 14:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Yoda
But they go to the article "Political google bombs," rather than the main page. So in theory, it doesn't really count.
DarthSidious 12:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)DarthSidious
It might be worth mentioning on the article Google bombs from other countries, a good example is on google nz (www.google.co.nz) and searching "clueless", it comes up with the main site/ blog of the opposition leader John Key.
heres the link if you want to have a look [3]
This article isn't so much about Political Google bombs themselves (which are actually described in more detail at Google bomb, but more about the particular Bush & Kerry bombs. As such, i propose this article be renamed to Political Google bombs in the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election and simply linked to from Google bomb. -- ZimZalaBim talk 13:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)