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While I understand the reasoning behind merging Dinoco and Pizza Planet into the Pixar article, can we find some other place to put these things? This article should be focused on "Pixar, the corporation", and not "Pixar's Movie References". The "Pixar Traditions" section is fine as long as it's kept brief and each individual movie page should probably have a {{pixar traditions}} template that outlines that film's Pixar Traditions. Thoughts? SpikeJones 20:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a much better idea to merge Dinoco with Pizza Planet or better yet make a reccuring jokes page (on Pixar and in a whole new article) Martini833 21:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm thinking it seems folks would like a common Pixar in-jokes article. That might be doable as well, though it'd be important to document the coverage lest it end up like too many popular culture articles. FrozenPurpleCube 21:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you just do a List of Pixar traditions arcticle and cut the section? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.3.54 ( talk) 20:56, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
I started this article to make the people section on the Pixar template less of an argument. I started it off but it's a mess. Anyone want to help? List of notable Pixar staff. Martini833 20:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
It says on the page (the link given below) of BRENDA CHAPMAN: “She is now developing an original feature film for Pixar as a director.” And it says on RONNIE DEL CARMEN page that: “Ronnie is currently working in development on Peter Docter’s original feature film.
So that means that both BRENDA CHAPMAN and Peter Docter are currently directing Pixar films as well as Gary Rydstrom. http://www.screenwritingexpo.com/faculty.html
User:Pixar is 10:38, 26 April 2007
Does anybody know WP's official stance on listing unannounced films? Obviously, every film studio has any number of unannounced films in the queue at any given time. Since WP is not a fan site, is it appropriate to list unannounced films at all? SpikeJones 14:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't classify Pixar as a "Hollywood film studio", as the category would lead you to believe. Thoughts? SpikeJones 18:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
but wheer does it say its a hollywood studio? Martini833 20:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me, or are the two separate Pixar templates that are fighting for recognition here? I have Template:Pixar Animation Studios on one side, with the associated Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios page. And then over here, I have Template:Pixar films and it's associated talk page being redirected over to Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios. Something tells me that somebody either duplicated effort, or somebody did the move incorrectly. Looks like we need to determine which is supposed to be which and eliminate one of them. Cross-posting this over on Talk:Pixar Animation Studios. SpikeJones 03:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a heads-up: there is a posting on a message board today that states Here's an interesting tidbit heard at the Indy 500 from Paul Newman himself: Did you know a new Cars short will debut Summer 2008? And that Cars 2 is set for a 2009 release?. Unless there is a verifiable citation from a WP-approved source (ie not a blog entry or other self-published website), we need to tread very lightly in posting this information in the article itself. (cross-posting this here for exposure. Keep talk on the Cars (film) discussion page as necessary.) SpikeJones 17:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
That ALL new Pixar films that people would like to have included as being under production on this page can only be included after a non-blog, reputable 3rd party WP-approved source has confirmed this information. See WP:NOT a crystal ball and WP:CITE for details on what constitutes valid WP sources. Until such references exist, films such as UP will be reverted from the this page. SpikeJones 02:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Anyone know if Pixar renders their movies at 2K or 4K resolution? -- 24.249.108.133 22:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
The current pixar lamp animation screen found in their present movies is not the company logo, it is a common screen from the Google search engine. I suggest that the actual company logo, which is the simple text version, be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P.gobin ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This article describes this film as a Pixar project; but it is not mentioned in the Pixar article. Who's right ? Hektor ( talk) 18:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that 1906 has officially been announced (see citation) and we can talk about it openly, it looks like we may need to change the opening paragraph from Pixar Animation Studios is an American computer animation studio to Pixar is an American movie studio that began as a computer animation studio before branching out into live-action films. And we may want to start considering changing major portions of this article for things that are not animation-related. I can't imagine that Bird will include a Pizza Planet delivery truck in earthquake-rattled San Fran. Or could he? SpikeJones ( talk) 02:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
It says in the teaser trailers area, "Refer to each film's page for more information." But on the pages for the films there isn't much information. Why not? Mollymoon ( talk) 12:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
You said "1906 is a CO PRODUCTION only FUNDED by Pixar, so it's not Pixar canon, it is Warner Bros". We agree that 1906 is a co-production between Pixar and a different company. Toy Story was a co-production between Pixar and Disney, yet it is accepted as Pixar canon. You tell me what the difference is between the two. SpikeJones ( talk) 03:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I think that the bulleted points at Pixar#Acquired_by_Disney is not useful and will also quickly fail this article for any Featured Article Nominations or Good Article Nominations. Could we please either convert it to prose, or better yet, simply delete it? Because the information is a little excessive and almost reads like a "terms of condition" sheet between the two companies rather than any useful encyclopedic content to most readers. Gary King ( talk) 19:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs a little work before it becomes a Good Article.
-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
There's a new book out on Pixar and the New York Times has a synopsis of it:
-- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way of finding out what date the shorts Red's Dream, Tin Toy, Knick Knack premiered on? If SIGGRAPH is a one-day thing, than it shouldn't be hard--simply pinpoint what day it was on in 1987, 88, and 89. If not...well, it's got to be written down somewhere. An old agenda, maybe. Who knows. I think it's worth looking in to. Tenk you veddy much. -- Wack'd Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork! 20:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Although most know about the Pixar feature films, can some of their early shorts be mentioned? I saw them in the 1980s as part of an animation festival. Luxo_Jr. was nominated for and Tin_Toy won an Academy Award. Not to list all shorts, just mention the notable ones on this page instead of having to go to the Pixar shorts page? 22yearswothanks ( talk) 05:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
The intro paragraph says Pixar was founded in 1979, but the box says it was founded on February 3, 1986. Which is correct? Or, was there an event that happened on Feb 3, 1986 that should be mentioned in the intro paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.248.107.194 ( talk) 21:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I have changed the second paragraph to be a little more clear. Hope it helps Avalean ( talk) 20:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Alvy Ray Smith quit when he disagreed with something Steve Jobs wrote on the board. There is no mention of him on the Pixar website (pixar.com) but in the book iCon: Steve Jobs, the greatest second act in the history of business by Jeffery Young and William Simon, it talks about him in the chapters "Show Business" and "Master of Ceremonies" and especially on pages 185-186.
Kevin chen2003 ( talk) 04:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Please check over on Talk:Chicken Little (film) as we search for advice on how to rephrase a sentence on that page that deals with Disney "producing" Pixar films. Thanks. SpikeJones ( talk) 05:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I read: "The newly independent company was headed by Dr. Edwin Catmull, President and CEO, and Dr. Alvy Ray Smith, Executive Vice President and Director. Jobs served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Pixar."
So, the company had two CEOs, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.20.152.48 ( talk) 14:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
[1] Here's news that Pixar is planning a new separate studio in Vancouver, Canada. Why hasn't this been mentioned in the Wikipedia article yet? dogman15 ( talk) 03:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Should it not be mentioned some where that Pixar feature length films have got consistently good reviews, for example the lowest on rotten tomatoes was, I think, 75% fresh on Cars. Does this not deserve at least a mention somewhere? --
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It's being posted by numerous cited sources, just google it. The Vancouver expansion should be part of this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.128.39 ( talk) 03:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone recently changed the name of the page to Disney.Pixar (which I've reverted), citing a name change - however, I can find no mention of this from any sources, official or otherwise. Please discuss (and provide sources) if you feel the need to make a change like this in the future. TheRealFennShysa ( talk) 19:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
What is up with this? Are they there, and I'm just not seeing them, or what? NoFlyingCars ( talk) 09:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
"To date, Toy Story is the only Pixar film to have sequels." Isn't Shrek 4 being advertised now? I'm changing this sentence. I can't believe there's info this old still on here. 76.125.225.194 ( talk) 01:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The Shrek films are Dreamworks, not Pixar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.109.36.18 ( talk) 15:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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Result: The discussion to merge has been open for about a week, and there is clear consensus to merge, with only one editor dissenting. I will merge the article shortly. SnottyWong spout 22:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I am proposing that we merge the content of Newt (film) into the existing "Newt" section in this article, and redirect Newt (film) to Pixar. The film, by all accounts, has been cancelled and therefore the article on the film will never get any longer than it currently is. Wikipedia guidelines such as WP:NFF suggest that such films should not have their own article. The recent AfD discussion, while closed as Keep, clearly had a large number of comments suggesting a Merge/Redirect was appropriate, and the closing admin suggested starting a discussion regarding a merge. Please indicate below if you support or oppose this merge. SnottyWong yak 19:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I believe that many people would expect to find information on the Pixar Format (PXR) upon arriving at this article, or at least a disambiguation page. I think we need to either (i) change "Pixar" (currently referring to an American CGI animation film studio) to a disambiguation page or (ii) add a link to an article on the Pixar/PXR format after the following sentences in the current "Pixar" article: "This article is about the animation company. For the graphics designing computer, see Pixar Image Computer." -- 62.49.171.1 ( talk) 11:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't it mention that Pixar is helping out with the new Muppet movie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.198.195 ( talk) 21:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
"Pixar's twelfth film, Cars 2, is scheduled for release on June 24, 2011 and "Clowns!" 2013."
No source. 76.175.113.248 ( talk) 17:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
According to the above film's article, it's to be a Walt Disney Pictures production, with Andrew Stanton lent to them for the duration. I've therefore removed the mention here about it being Pixar's second live-action movie. Rojomoke ( talk) 16:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I understand Steve Jobs represents Apple Inc. and is the name behind the brand. But from what I can depict from this article is that Steve Jobs bought Pixar independently, without any relation to Apple Inc./Apple Computer at that time, thus making the link between Apple Inc. and Pixar (specifically the 'See Also' section) irrelevant to this article. Other then mentioning the company once to identify the person if his name wasn't sufficient enough. 84.202.208.245 ( talk) 03:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Toy Story 3 was also nominated for an academy award. I dont know if this hasn't been added because the show hasn't been on yet or something so I will wait and see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.80.93 ( talk) 00:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The source listed as confirming that Newt was cancelled because it had a similar plot to Rio is not valid. While it is a popular rumor, and John Lasseter did say something about it being possible, Pixar responded to this officially saying that John was not confirming the rumor was true, and Newt was not scrapped because of Rio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.241.218 ( talk) 18:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I think there should be a short paragraph mentioning that the desk lamp used as the logo for the studio is Luxo Jr., which was the main character in, and the title of Pixar's first animated movie produced in 1986. 07 Matthew ( talk) 04:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Does the introduction really need to mention every single feature made by Pixar? 84.210.37.75 ( talk) 05:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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I have always been under the impression that pixar used Pixar Image Computers to render their movies, but obviously, as pixar image computers were not available commercially anymore after 1991 or so, this cannot be the case at all! It puzzled me that this article doesn't mention this, nor does it mention what, if not pixar image computers, pixar used to render their first feature film "toy story". A film released in 1994, four years after pixar the computer company folded.
So I did some research, and according to this [4] they didn't use pixar computers at all but used 117 dual and quad-processor SPARCstation 20 computers instead!
It seems to me that this is worth to be mentioned in the article. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:11, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Many people misunderstand this: Pixar is the part doing all the work. Disney profits off Pixar more than it should, but Pixar needs Disney for advertising. Disney ONLY does the advertising and distribution and things like that. It does not help in any way with the actual making of the movie. Disney has been making terrible movies lately (besides Tangled, maybe) and it is unfair to Pixar for people to say that the movie is a Disney movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davids552 ( talk • contribs)
A new editor has added a lot of new information to the article, using a book entitled The Pixar Touch by David Price as their source. The book does not have the proper {{cite book}} template applied, but it does use parenthetical cites to a degree. I've asked the editor on their talk page to provide some additional details. If this work is deemed reliable, I think some additional details about the inner workings of Pixar would be notable. Conversely, if this is mainly a gossip or tell-all book, then the edits would potentially fall under WP:NPOV. I believe we need additional details before we unintentionally bite this newcomer. -- McDoob AU 93 14:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
The following URL suggests that "The Good Dinosaur" has entered its production stage and thus can have its own article:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=98454
(It has a picture from the film.) Any faulty info?? Georgia guy ( talk) 00:57, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
"with its $602 million average gross by far the highest of any studio in the industry."
Marvel Studios has a higher average worldwide gross. http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm
It should be changed, or specified that "the industry" refers to animated movies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denubis1 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
No you are think about MCU which inculed all the Iron man Flims, Thor , incredible hulk, captain armerica and the Avengers. Marvel dose not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 ( talk) 10:02, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
i recently discovered this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NFF#Future_films.2C_incomplete_films.2C_and_undistributed_films
Does a trailer like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vco0SpSz17g make Big Hero 6 verifiable/notable? (i'm fairly confident the video really was uploaded by Disney and not just someone calling themselves that.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.201.106 ( talk) 08:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
This page claims that Disney acquired Pixar on May 5, 2006. But here's a source that say it was on January 23, 2006: http://www.complex.com/tech/2013/01/the-15-most-important-tech-acquisitions-of-all-time/disney-buys-pixar So, does anyone no what the truth is? Ojr01 ( talk) 23:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
FROM THE CREATORS OF FINDING NEMO,CARS 2 AND MONSTERS UNIVERSITY COMES DISNEY.PIXAR FIO Keniel Berdecia ( talk) 21:35, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
should someone mention in the traditions section about the fact that every Pixar film includes a short film that precedes it as a demonstration of their technology or something? Visokor ( talk) 14:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'am reviewing this article for a school project and I noticed that one of the reference links is no longer available. It is number 72. "Pixar: 20 Years of Animation". Pixar. Retrieved June 28, 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jv19965 ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Why is there no reference to Steve Jobs as a founder in the Info box? or even as a key person?
If he is not considered a founder, then it also means there is incorrect information on his own page since that page lists him as founder and CEO of Pixar. 74.104.150.176 ( talk) 20:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
All the sources but one actually link to articles and sites that claim he didn't found Pixar. Is there a chance this will ever get fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.156.29.67 ( talk) 20:13, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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A mistaken, widely believed error is that Steve Jobs cofounded Pixar. The facts are that Ed Catmull and I cofounded Pixar and Steve Jobs was our venture capitalist. The issue here as regards the Wikipedia page is should I be allowed to contribute documentation to support this point, or should I be disallowed because I am cofounder?
Of course, if all I did was pass on hearsay, then I shouldn't (nor should anybody) be allowed to do so.
I am quite aware of the apparent conflict of interest issue here, so that's why I seek to back up all claims with original documentation from the founding years of Pixar. They are in my Pixar archive, which has been archived by Pixar archivists. They are the first two footnotes of the Pixar wikipedia page.
The ticklish problem here is the dominating influence of Steve Jobs. He started claiming in 1994 that HE was the cofounder of Pixar. This was when Pixar was already eight years old. It was part of his marketing scheme to sell Pixar to investors when he took the company public.
As many know Steve and I didn't get along. This is well (and accurately) documented in Walter Isaacson's book on Jobs. From the point of our big argument own Steve started writing me out of the history of Pixar, and everybody goes along with his version. The Isaacson book, by the way, lists me as cofounder. David Price's excellent history of Pixar, The Pixar Story, also does.
My goal is to get my cofounding credit back, using standard historical mean - that is, original documentation.
So, I have contributed the Pixar Founding Documents that show Ed and me as cofounders and Steve as investor. That is the actual truth.
I have also contributed the Managment pages of several years of Pixar company business plans, six of them as I recall, that show in every case either the lack of Steve Jobs's name (before the founding) or lists Ed and me as the only cofounders and not Steve Jobs, who is always listed as cofounder of Apple and Pixar's principal investor. This is the documentation that proves he was not cofounder and didn't even claim it until the IPO prospectus of 1994. I believe this is conclusive evidence of my claim. Steve's claim in 1994 was a pure marketing ploy that not only made the cofounder misclaim but also portrayed him as CEO since the founding. That statement was also not true, as the documentation in footnote 2 (the aforementioned six business plans) supports.
I know no other way to get the truth out since anybody associated with Steve Jobs continues to spread the untruth that he, Ed Catmull, and John Lasseter cofounded Pixar. (Lasseter was a key employee present at the founding with 37 other founding employees, who are not considered cofounders.)
Ed and I conceived the company, wrote the business plan for it, decided who to hire to be part of it, interviewed them, and raised the money for the company, all the things cofounders do. So far as financing is concerned, we approached 45 different funding opportunities together, 35 venture capital firms and 10 large corporations. All said No to us except General Motors. We almost closed a deal with GM (with the H Ross Perot branch) but it fell through at the last minute. Steve Jobs had approached us near the beginning of the negotiations with GM and proposed to Ed and me to buy us from Lucasfilm. We said No, but we would take his money and run it ourselves. He agreed and ran a number by Lucasfilm. They rejected it because it was about 1/2 to 1/3 what GM was offering. But when GM fell through, Ed and I called Steve and urged him to make the same offer again. This time it was accepted. So he funded us. The three of us were the board of directors. Ed and I were the management.
By the way, VCs are not listed as cofounders as a general rule in Silicon Valley. I do not list Autodesk as a cofounder of my second company Altamira Software, for example. It wasn't their idea. Pixar wasn't Steve Jobs's idea. He was of course very important to us, but not cofounder nor creator of the notion or the look or feel of Pixar.
Question: How do I get this kind of info into the Pixar wikipedia history other than submit those original documents? Nobody else is going to apparently. I can't see why such submission is Conflict of Interest. It is Truth. Meanwhile I get cut out of my credit after working closely with Ed Catmull for 16 years to get there.
Alvyray ( talk) 21:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC) Alvy Ray Smith, cofounder of Pixar with Ed Catmull
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John lasseter should be removed from the list of Pixar cofounders. I've already proved that the cofounders were Ed Catmull and myself, Alvy Ray Smith. The two footnotes attached to my name in the cofounder list contain this proof. John Lasseter as cofounder was another invention by Steve Jobs at IPO time. The first time John appears listed as cofounder is in the 1994 IPO prospectus, eight years after the founding of the company (the same place where Jobs first claimed he was cofounder). John was extremely important to Pixar but he was not a cofounder. He was one of 38 founding employees that Ed and I brought with us into the new company (see listing in the Founding Documents, footnote 1). If John is listed then so must be these 38 people (including secretaries and the receptionist, everybody in the new company whom Ed and I had convinced to go along with us).
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There has been a lot of editing/reverting regarding the Founded Date recently (due to lack of citations). Can a citation be provided for this? Paging Sherialzeerah ( talk · contribs) as they made the last change to that section. MidnightObservation ( talk) 00:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
MidnightObservation ( talk · contribs) Correct founding date can be found on the Pixar website: http://www.pixar.com/about/Our-Story. Arrow over to the 1986 page. Sherialzeerah ( talk) 21:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)Sheri Alzeerah
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It would make sense to name Catmull and Smith as founders along with Lucas of their department within Lucas Arts, and have an earlier founding date for that, but the incorporation in 1986 should include Catmull, Smith and Jobs. Jobs was the original owner/investor and CEO in the studio (which was before just a technical department within Lucas Arts). However, this Smith guy behaves himself as a bit maniacal with his absurd campaign to erase Jobs from the picture just because he, Smith, personally has a petty axe of grind. And he is allowed to edit this page where he sources himself on the issue. 93.185.26.253 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I have updated this article to include the release of Toy Story 4. I removed content about "15 films" being on the Top 50 list because this number needs to be updated. I don't know what the current number is so I had to remove it because it was out of date. I also removed some detail that is excessive for the lead of this article. I added that Toy Story 4 is among the top 50 top-grossing films of all times based on a June 2019 article published in Forbes. Dartslilly ( talk) 15:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I've seen a pattern on articles related to Pixar in which a lot of inexperienced editors do not understand that Pixar and Disney Animation (during and ever since the former Lasseter/Catmull management regime) both try to maintain a distinction between directors and co-directors. They apply the distinction quite consistently if you actually take the time to read both studios' press releases. The buck stops with directors (in the sense that they have final control over the artistic direction of a film), while co-directors share some directorial duties but ultimately are there to support the directors. Only directors get a formal "director" credit (which is especially important for film awards season). For example, the sole director credit on Coco went to Lee Unkrich, while Adrian Molina was credited as co-director. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 18:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
I notice someone insists that the number of original employees was 44. Co-founder Alvy Ray Smith has a scanned copy of the documents on his website: [3] These are exactly 40, not 44:
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The advertising section is really confusing (maybe a translation from another page?); I started editing it to fix grammatical errors but didn't know whether Pixar made the advertisements or some of these products were advertised in Pixar films. I assume the former, but stopped editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coreybchapman ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@ Pederjo99: has added the section Pixar#Franchises to the article, despite their franchises being already listed in the studio's respective template, therefore I think having this section is unnecessary and removed it, however, Pederjo99 restored it saying it's "necessary" (without any further explanation). I'd best argue to move it to List of Pixar films and/or whether other editors agree on having this section in the article - Gouleg🛋️ ( Talk • Contribs) 14:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that an IP readded "Steve Jobs" on the template's "Founders" parameter when I checked the article about Pixar out if there were more disruptive edits or vandalism. It seems insufficient to me that the IP wrote the edit summary as "Steve jobs as one of the founders." because saying that anyone is one of them is not a valid reason to include it.
In order to find out if this is not true at all, I clicked one of the links which another IP stated in one of the sections of this talk page how many employees were when this company became Pixar and it was true that Alvy Ray Smith said. According to this link, Steve Jobs was the Chairman of the Board but he wasn't the founder.
To sum up, while Smith's statements might be unreliable for some contributors if he doesn't have independent, secondary sources, it would be convenient to remove it from the "Founders" parameter, no?-- André the Android( talk) 19:48, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
It is likely this article no longer meets the good article criteria as it features a {{ more citations needed}} cleanup banner and superscript ordinals that go against the manual of style guidelines for numbers (see Pixar#Pixar: 20 Years of Animation).
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Delist per nom. Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 22:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Delist Hard for me to argue with you. It's been 3 months and none of the issues highlighted above have been fixed. -- The helper5667 ( talk) 22:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC) IAmAnIndividual ( talk) 22:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, the 'Notes' tab should be removed if no notes can be added to it as in my opinion it is pointless having an empty tab within the article. Xboxsponge15 ( talk) 09:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
For those who knows a little about the history of Pixar, they are aware that Steve Jobs was an investor, not a founder (and neither was John Lasseter). Only two people created Pixar; Ed Catmull and Alvy Ray Smith. The ones who keep adding Jobs doesn't even bother to read the full article they're editing, which contradicts the claim.
Sources: /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Alvyray https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-real-story-of-pixar https://www.mynewanimatedlife.com/2013/01/exclusiveinterview-with-alvy-ray-smith_19.html
Because the guy who keep reverting the edits even if the information is wrong refuse to post any replies, here is a quote from the article for anyone else who might be interested:
"Steve Jobs wasn’t a part of the Pixar team, except that he was the money behind it. It’s often thought that he bought Pixar from Lucasfilm (he didn’t), that animation was his idea (it wasn’t), that he ran Pixar (he didn’t). He’s often called the cofounder of Pixar (he wasn’t). The board hires a management to run a corporation. Steve, Ed, and I were the original board. It hired Ed and me to run Pixar. Steve did not run it. But he was Pixar’s venture capitalist. He came through with the money when we needed it. He owned 70% of the company because of his investment. We employees owned the other 30%. Over the course of several years, we ran out of money several times. Each time Steve wrote another check to the company for further investment, and took equity away from us. So eventually, by 1989 or so, he owned all of Pixar. So it’s not true that he bought Pixar from Lucasfilm. He funded the spinout of a startup company from Lucasfilm. This is standard practice in Silicon Valley. Meanwhile he started up his own company, Next. He ran Next while Ed Catmull and I ran Pixar."
The whole "Steve Jobs in a founder" is based on a single Tweet from an anonymous Pixar employee. That doesn't say much. It was also an anonymous Pixar employee who used the official Pixar account on Youtube to insult an amateur animator by writing "You suck at animation": https://www.trillmag.com/73448/read/life/amateur-animator-enacts-revenge-on-pixar-after-a-scathing-review-of-his-animation-skills/ 46.212.117.57 ( talk) 19:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Final sentence of the introduction:
“Since 2006, Pixar has been a subsidiary of Walt Disney Studios, a division of Disney Entertainment, which owned by The Walt Disney Company.”
That should read “which is owned by The Walt Disney Company.”
I’d make the edit myself, but the article is locked and I don’t have an account. Thanks. 114.172.51.56 ( talk) 08:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
The source for the alpha channel invention credits only Alvy, but both Alvy and Ed are credited in the history section. Either another source should be added, or Ed’s name removed. 73.59.120.118 ( talk) 16:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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For the final section of the History section (Covid and Financial Troubles), can someone please fix the dash in the title from "-" to "–"? Please. 2601:40A:8400:5A40:4475:E7C9:8762:8E07 ( talk) 18:45, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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COI - I'm the author of a textbook on the history of pixar DROIDMAKER, which is widely cited online, but i would be using it as the reference for all my adjustments to this history. This is how I believe it should read:
Pixar got its start in 1974, when New York Institute of Technology's (NYIT) founder, Alexander Schure, who was also the owner of a traditional animation studio, established the Computer Graphics Lab (CGL) and recruited computer scientists who shared his ambitions about creating the world's first computer-animated film. Edwin Catmull and Malcolm Blanchard were the first to be hired and were soon joined by Alvy Ray Smith and David DiFrancesco some months later, which were the four original members of the Computer Graphics Lab, located in a converted two-story garage acquired from the former Vanderbilt-Whitney estate. [1] [2]In the years prior to joining, Catmull had invented texture mapping and had produced the first computer animated film (of his hand). At NYIT, the researchers were given unprecedented technology of the day, and with that, pioneered many of the CG foundation techniques—in particular, the invention of the alpha channel by Catmull and Smith. [3] Schure kept pouring money into the lab, an estimated $15 million, giving the group everything they desired but driving NYIT into serious financial troubles. [4] Eventually, the group realized they needed to work in a real film studio in order to reach their goal.
By 1979, during pre-production for The Empire Strikes Back, George Lucas approached Catmull and offered him an opportunity to build a computer group at his studio to solve three specific problems he was having concerning editing, sound post production, and special effects. Catmull joined, and during the following months, his associates from CGL gradually resigned, found temporary jobs (to avoid making Schure suspicious), and eventually joined what became the "Graphics Group" at Lucasfilm. [5] [6] [7]
While Catmull ran the Lucasfilm Computer Division, Alvy Ray Smith was specifically in charge of the Graphics Group. The team, expanded importantly in 1980 to include Loren Carpenter (a pioneer of fractal graphics) and other key scientists, began developing the foundations for animation, a project they understood could take more than a decade. The team worked on creating the precursor to RenderMan, called REYES (for "renders everything you ever saw") and developed several critical technologies for CG—including particle effects and various animation tools. [8]
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List of Film Disney Pixar Aardman's Stage Fright 148.252.132.140 ( talk) 07:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
In the lead, "Disney announced it's acqusition" should read "Disney announced its acquisition" 99.146.242.37 ( talk) 04:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ ZX2006XZ To be short, no one has officially confirmed this project's existence. Until that happens, it remains a rumor. DanielRPK and WorldofReel are not reputable sources to confirm or deny, it needs to come from someone close to production or Disney/Pixar themselves. That's as simple as it is, really.
Beyond this article, the mention of this project's existence is also featured in List of Pixar films and List of Walt Disney Pictures films. It should be removed from there as well. Madyoshi01 ( talk) 02:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
In the section starting with "The two companies attempted to reach a new agreement for ten months and failed...", a series of dates are listed then an apparent result is mentioned, but neither seems to match the objective of the start of the paragraph. Danlo88 ( talk) 19:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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While I understand the reasoning behind merging Dinoco and Pizza Planet into the Pixar article, can we find some other place to put these things? This article should be focused on "Pixar, the corporation", and not "Pixar's Movie References". The "Pixar Traditions" section is fine as long as it's kept brief and each individual movie page should probably have a {{pixar traditions}} template that outlines that film's Pixar Traditions. Thoughts? SpikeJones 20:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a much better idea to merge Dinoco with Pizza Planet or better yet make a reccuring jokes page (on Pixar and in a whole new article) Martini833 21:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm thinking it seems folks would like a common Pixar in-jokes article. That might be doable as well, though it'd be important to document the coverage lest it end up like too many popular culture articles. FrozenPurpleCube 21:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you just do a List of Pixar traditions arcticle and cut the section? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.3.54 ( talk) 20:56, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
I started this article to make the people section on the Pixar template less of an argument. I started it off but it's a mess. Anyone want to help? List of notable Pixar staff. Martini833 20:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
It says on the page (the link given below) of BRENDA CHAPMAN: “She is now developing an original feature film for Pixar as a director.” And it says on RONNIE DEL CARMEN page that: “Ronnie is currently working in development on Peter Docter’s original feature film.
So that means that both BRENDA CHAPMAN and Peter Docter are currently directing Pixar films as well as Gary Rydstrom. http://www.screenwritingexpo.com/faculty.html
User:Pixar is 10:38, 26 April 2007
Does anybody know WP's official stance on listing unannounced films? Obviously, every film studio has any number of unannounced films in the queue at any given time. Since WP is not a fan site, is it appropriate to list unannounced films at all? SpikeJones 14:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't classify Pixar as a "Hollywood film studio", as the category would lead you to believe. Thoughts? SpikeJones 18:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
but wheer does it say its a hollywood studio? Martini833 20:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me, or are the two separate Pixar templates that are fighting for recognition here? I have Template:Pixar Animation Studios on one side, with the associated Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios page. And then over here, I have Template:Pixar films and it's associated talk page being redirected over to Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios. Something tells me that somebody either duplicated effort, or somebody did the move incorrectly. Looks like we need to determine which is supposed to be which and eliminate one of them. Cross-posting this over on Talk:Pixar Animation Studios. SpikeJones 03:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a heads-up: there is a posting on a message board today that states Here's an interesting tidbit heard at the Indy 500 from Paul Newman himself: Did you know a new Cars short will debut Summer 2008? And that Cars 2 is set for a 2009 release?. Unless there is a verifiable citation from a WP-approved source (ie not a blog entry or other self-published website), we need to tread very lightly in posting this information in the article itself. (cross-posting this here for exposure. Keep talk on the Cars (film) discussion page as necessary.) SpikeJones 17:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
That ALL new Pixar films that people would like to have included as being under production on this page can only be included after a non-blog, reputable 3rd party WP-approved source has confirmed this information. See WP:NOT a crystal ball and WP:CITE for details on what constitutes valid WP sources. Until such references exist, films such as UP will be reverted from the this page. SpikeJones 02:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Anyone know if Pixar renders their movies at 2K or 4K resolution? -- 24.249.108.133 22:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
The current pixar lamp animation screen found in their present movies is not the company logo, it is a common screen from the Google search engine. I suggest that the actual company logo, which is the simple text version, be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P.gobin ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This article describes this film as a Pixar project; but it is not mentioned in the Pixar article. Who's right ? Hektor ( talk) 18:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that 1906 has officially been announced (see citation) and we can talk about it openly, it looks like we may need to change the opening paragraph from Pixar Animation Studios is an American computer animation studio to Pixar is an American movie studio that began as a computer animation studio before branching out into live-action films. And we may want to start considering changing major portions of this article for things that are not animation-related. I can't imagine that Bird will include a Pizza Planet delivery truck in earthquake-rattled San Fran. Or could he? SpikeJones ( talk) 02:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
It says in the teaser trailers area, "Refer to each film's page for more information." But on the pages for the films there isn't much information. Why not? Mollymoon ( talk) 12:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
You said "1906 is a CO PRODUCTION only FUNDED by Pixar, so it's not Pixar canon, it is Warner Bros". We agree that 1906 is a co-production between Pixar and a different company. Toy Story was a co-production between Pixar and Disney, yet it is accepted as Pixar canon. You tell me what the difference is between the two. SpikeJones ( talk) 03:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I think that the bulleted points at Pixar#Acquired_by_Disney is not useful and will also quickly fail this article for any Featured Article Nominations or Good Article Nominations. Could we please either convert it to prose, or better yet, simply delete it? Because the information is a little excessive and almost reads like a "terms of condition" sheet between the two companies rather than any useful encyclopedic content to most readers. Gary King ( talk) 19:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs a little work before it becomes a Good Article.
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There's a new book out on Pixar and the New York Times has a synopsis of it:
-- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way of finding out what date the shorts Red's Dream, Tin Toy, Knick Knack premiered on? If SIGGRAPH is a one-day thing, than it shouldn't be hard--simply pinpoint what day it was on in 1987, 88, and 89. If not...well, it's got to be written down somewhere. An old agenda, maybe. Who knows. I think it's worth looking in to. Tenk you veddy much. -- Wack'd Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork! 20:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Although most know about the Pixar feature films, can some of their early shorts be mentioned? I saw them in the 1980s as part of an animation festival. Luxo_Jr. was nominated for and Tin_Toy won an Academy Award. Not to list all shorts, just mention the notable ones on this page instead of having to go to the Pixar shorts page? 22yearswothanks ( talk) 05:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
The intro paragraph says Pixar was founded in 1979, but the box says it was founded on February 3, 1986. Which is correct? Or, was there an event that happened on Feb 3, 1986 that should be mentioned in the intro paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.248.107.194 ( talk) 21:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I have changed the second paragraph to be a little more clear. Hope it helps Avalean ( talk) 20:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Alvy Ray Smith quit when he disagreed with something Steve Jobs wrote on the board. There is no mention of him on the Pixar website (pixar.com) but in the book iCon: Steve Jobs, the greatest second act in the history of business by Jeffery Young and William Simon, it talks about him in the chapters "Show Business" and "Master of Ceremonies" and especially on pages 185-186.
Kevin chen2003 ( talk) 04:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Please check over on Talk:Chicken Little (film) as we search for advice on how to rephrase a sentence on that page that deals with Disney "producing" Pixar films. Thanks. SpikeJones ( talk) 05:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I read: "The newly independent company was headed by Dr. Edwin Catmull, President and CEO, and Dr. Alvy Ray Smith, Executive Vice President and Director. Jobs served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Pixar."
So, the company had two CEOs, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.20.152.48 ( talk) 14:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
[1] Here's news that Pixar is planning a new separate studio in Vancouver, Canada. Why hasn't this been mentioned in the Wikipedia article yet? dogman15 ( talk) 03:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Should it not be mentioned some where that Pixar feature length films have got consistently good reviews, for example the lowest on rotten tomatoes was, I think, 75% fresh on Cars. Does this not deserve at least a mention somewhere? --
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It's being posted by numerous cited sources, just google it. The Vancouver expansion should be part of this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.128.39 ( talk) 03:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone recently changed the name of the page to Disney.Pixar (which I've reverted), citing a name change - however, I can find no mention of this from any sources, official or otherwise. Please discuss (and provide sources) if you feel the need to make a change like this in the future. TheRealFennShysa ( talk) 19:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
What is up with this? Are they there, and I'm just not seeing them, or what? NoFlyingCars ( talk) 09:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
"To date, Toy Story is the only Pixar film to have sequels." Isn't Shrek 4 being advertised now? I'm changing this sentence. I can't believe there's info this old still on here. 76.125.225.194 ( talk) 01:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The Shrek films are Dreamworks, not Pixar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.109.36.18 ( talk) 15:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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Result: The discussion to merge has been open for about a week, and there is clear consensus to merge, with only one editor dissenting. I will merge the article shortly. SnottyWong spout 22:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I am proposing that we merge the content of Newt (film) into the existing "Newt" section in this article, and redirect Newt (film) to Pixar. The film, by all accounts, has been cancelled and therefore the article on the film will never get any longer than it currently is. Wikipedia guidelines such as WP:NFF suggest that such films should not have their own article. The recent AfD discussion, while closed as Keep, clearly had a large number of comments suggesting a Merge/Redirect was appropriate, and the closing admin suggested starting a discussion regarding a merge. Please indicate below if you support or oppose this merge. SnottyWong yak 19:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I believe that many people would expect to find information on the Pixar Format (PXR) upon arriving at this article, or at least a disambiguation page. I think we need to either (i) change "Pixar" (currently referring to an American CGI animation film studio) to a disambiguation page or (ii) add a link to an article on the Pixar/PXR format after the following sentences in the current "Pixar" article: "This article is about the animation company. For the graphics designing computer, see Pixar Image Computer." -- 62.49.171.1 ( talk) 11:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't it mention that Pixar is helping out with the new Muppet movie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.198.195 ( talk) 21:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
"Pixar's twelfth film, Cars 2, is scheduled for release on June 24, 2011 and "Clowns!" 2013."
No source. 76.175.113.248 ( talk) 17:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
According to the above film's article, it's to be a Walt Disney Pictures production, with Andrew Stanton lent to them for the duration. I've therefore removed the mention here about it being Pixar's second live-action movie. Rojomoke ( talk) 16:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I understand Steve Jobs represents Apple Inc. and is the name behind the brand. But from what I can depict from this article is that Steve Jobs bought Pixar independently, without any relation to Apple Inc./Apple Computer at that time, thus making the link between Apple Inc. and Pixar (specifically the 'See Also' section) irrelevant to this article. Other then mentioning the company once to identify the person if his name wasn't sufficient enough. 84.202.208.245 ( talk) 03:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Toy Story 3 was also nominated for an academy award. I dont know if this hasn't been added because the show hasn't been on yet or something so I will wait and see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.80.93 ( talk) 00:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The source listed as confirming that Newt was cancelled because it had a similar plot to Rio is not valid. While it is a popular rumor, and John Lasseter did say something about it being possible, Pixar responded to this officially saying that John was not confirming the rumor was true, and Newt was not scrapped because of Rio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.241.218 ( talk) 18:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
I think there should be a short paragraph mentioning that the desk lamp used as the logo for the studio is Luxo Jr., which was the main character in, and the title of Pixar's first animated movie produced in 1986. 07 Matthew ( talk) 04:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Does the introduction really need to mention every single feature made by Pixar? 84.210.37.75 ( talk) 05:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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I have always been under the impression that pixar used Pixar Image Computers to render their movies, but obviously, as pixar image computers were not available commercially anymore after 1991 or so, this cannot be the case at all! It puzzled me that this article doesn't mention this, nor does it mention what, if not pixar image computers, pixar used to render their first feature film "toy story". A film released in 1994, four years after pixar the computer company folded.
So I did some research, and according to this [4] they didn't use pixar computers at all but used 117 dual and quad-processor SPARCstation 20 computers instead!
It seems to me that this is worth to be mentioned in the article. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:11, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Many people misunderstand this: Pixar is the part doing all the work. Disney profits off Pixar more than it should, but Pixar needs Disney for advertising. Disney ONLY does the advertising and distribution and things like that. It does not help in any way with the actual making of the movie. Disney has been making terrible movies lately (besides Tangled, maybe) and it is unfair to Pixar for people to say that the movie is a Disney movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davids552 ( talk • contribs)
A new editor has added a lot of new information to the article, using a book entitled The Pixar Touch by David Price as their source. The book does not have the proper {{cite book}} template applied, but it does use parenthetical cites to a degree. I've asked the editor on their talk page to provide some additional details. If this work is deemed reliable, I think some additional details about the inner workings of Pixar would be notable. Conversely, if this is mainly a gossip or tell-all book, then the edits would potentially fall under WP:NPOV. I believe we need additional details before we unintentionally bite this newcomer. -- McDoob AU 93 14:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
The following URL suggests that "The Good Dinosaur" has entered its production stage and thus can have its own article:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=98454
(It has a picture from the film.) Any faulty info?? Georgia guy ( talk) 00:57, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
"with its $602 million average gross by far the highest of any studio in the industry."
Marvel Studios has a higher average worldwide gross. http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm
It should be changed, or specified that "the industry" refers to animated movies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denubis1 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
No you are think about MCU which inculed all the Iron man Flims, Thor , incredible hulk, captain armerica and the Avengers. Marvel dose not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 ( talk) 10:02, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
i recently discovered this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NFF#Future_films.2C_incomplete_films.2C_and_undistributed_films
Does a trailer like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vco0SpSz17g make Big Hero 6 verifiable/notable? (i'm fairly confident the video really was uploaded by Disney and not just someone calling themselves that.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.201.106 ( talk) 08:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
This page claims that Disney acquired Pixar on May 5, 2006. But here's a source that say it was on January 23, 2006: http://www.complex.com/tech/2013/01/the-15-most-important-tech-acquisitions-of-all-time/disney-buys-pixar So, does anyone no what the truth is? Ojr01 ( talk) 23:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
FROM THE CREATORS OF FINDING NEMO,CARS 2 AND MONSTERS UNIVERSITY COMES DISNEY.PIXAR FIO Keniel Berdecia ( talk) 21:35, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
should someone mention in the traditions section about the fact that every Pixar film includes a short film that precedes it as a demonstration of their technology or something? Visokor ( talk) 14:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'am reviewing this article for a school project and I noticed that one of the reference links is no longer available. It is number 72. "Pixar: 20 Years of Animation". Pixar. Retrieved June 28, 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jv19965 ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Why is there no reference to Steve Jobs as a founder in the Info box? or even as a key person?
If he is not considered a founder, then it also means there is incorrect information on his own page since that page lists him as founder and CEO of Pixar. 74.104.150.176 ( talk) 20:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
All the sources but one actually link to articles and sites that claim he didn't found Pixar. Is there a chance this will ever get fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.156.29.67 ( talk) 20:13, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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A mistaken, widely believed error is that Steve Jobs cofounded Pixar. The facts are that Ed Catmull and I cofounded Pixar and Steve Jobs was our venture capitalist. The issue here as regards the Wikipedia page is should I be allowed to contribute documentation to support this point, or should I be disallowed because I am cofounder?
Of course, if all I did was pass on hearsay, then I shouldn't (nor should anybody) be allowed to do so.
I am quite aware of the apparent conflict of interest issue here, so that's why I seek to back up all claims with original documentation from the founding years of Pixar. They are in my Pixar archive, which has been archived by Pixar archivists. They are the first two footnotes of the Pixar wikipedia page.
The ticklish problem here is the dominating influence of Steve Jobs. He started claiming in 1994 that HE was the cofounder of Pixar. This was when Pixar was already eight years old. It was part of his marketing scheme to sell Pixar to investors when he took the company public.
As many know Steve and I didn't get along. This is well (and accurately) documented in Walter Isaacson's book on Jobs. From the point of our big argument own Steve started writing me out of the history of Pixar, and everybody goes along with his version. The Isaacson book, by the way, lists me as cofounder. David Price's excellent history of Pixar, The Pixar Story, also does.
My goal is to get my cofounding credit back, using standard historical mean - that is, original documentation.
So, I have contributed the Pixar Founding Documents that show Ed and me as cofounders and Steve as investor. That is the actual truth.
I have also contributed the Managment pages of several years of Pixar company business plans, six of them as I recall, that show in every case either the lack of Steve Jobs's name (before the founding) or lists Ed and me as the only cofounders and not Steve Jobs, who is always listed as cofounder of Apple and Pixar's principal investor. This is the documentation that proves he was not cofounder and didn't even claim it until the IPO prospectus of 1994. I believe this is conclusive evidence of my claim. Steve's claim in 1994 was a pure marketing ploy that not only made the cofounder misclaim but also portrayed him as CEO since the founding. That statement was also not true, as the documentation in footnote 2 (the aforementioned six business plans) supports.
I know no other way to get the truth out since anybody associated with Steve Jobs continues to spread the untruth that he, Ed Catmull, and John Lasseter cofounded Pixar. (Lasseter was a key employee present at the founding with 37 other founding employees, who are not considered cofounders.)
Ed and I conceived the company, wrote the business plan for it, decided who to hire to be part of it, interviewed them, and raised the money for the company, all the things cofounders do. So far as financing is concerned, we approached 45 different funding opportunities together, 35 venture capital firms and 10 large corporations. All said No to us except General Motors. We almost closed a deal with GM (with the H Ross Perot branch) but it fell through at the last minute. Steve Jobs had approached us near the beginning of the negotiations with GM and proposed to Ed and me to buy us from Lucasfilm. We said No, but we would take his money and run it ourselves. He agreed and ran a number by Lucasfilm. They rejected it because it was about 1/2 to 1/3 what GM was offering. But when GM fell through, Ed and I called Steve and urged him to make the same offer again. This time it was accepted. So he funded us. The three of us were the board of directors. Ed and I were the management.
By the way, VCs are not listed as cofounders as a general rule in Silicon Valley. I do not list Autodesk as a cofounder of my second company Altamira Software, for example. It wasn't their idea. Pixar wasn't Steve Jobs's idea. He was of course very important to us, but not cofounder nor creator of the notion or the look or feel of Pixar.
Question: How do I get this kind of info into the Pixar wikipedia history other than submit those original documents? Nobody else is going to apparently. I can't see why such submission is Conflict of Interest. It is Truth. Meanwhile I get cut out of my credit after working closely with Ed Catmull for 16 years to get there.
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John lasseter should be removed from the list of Pixar cofounders. I've already proved that the cofounders were Ed Catmull and myself, Alvy Ray Smith. The two footnotes attached to my name in the cofounder list contain this proof. John Lasseter as cofounder was another invention by Steve Jobs at IPO time. The first time John appears listed as cofounder is in the 1994 IPO prospectus, eight years after the founding of the company (the same place where Jobs first claimed he was cofounder). John was extremely important to Pixar but he was not a cofounder. He was one of 38 founding employees that Ed and I brought with us into the new company (see listing in the Founding Documents, footnote 1). If John is listed then so must be these 38 people (including secretaries and the receptionist, everybody in the new company whom Ed and I had convinced to go along with us).
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There has been a lot of editing/reverting regarding the Founded Date recently (due to lack of citations). Can a citation be provided for this? Paging Sherialzeerah ( talk · contribs) as they made the last change to that section. MidnightObservation ( talk) 00:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
MidnightObservation ( talk · contribs) Correct founding date can be found on the Pixar website: http://www.pixar.com/about/Our-Story. Arrow over to the 1986 page. Sherialzeerah ( talk) 21:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)Sheri Alzeerah
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It would make sense to name Catmull and Smith as founders along with Lucas of their department within Lucas Arts, and have an earlier founding date for that, but the incorporation in 1986 should include Catmull, Smith and Jobs. Jobs was the original owner/investor and CEO in the studio (which was before just a technical department within Lucas Arts). However, this Smith guy behaves himself as a bit maniacal with his absurd campaign to erase Jobs from the picture just because he, Smith, personally has a petty axe of grind. And he is allowed to edit this page where he sources himself on the issue. 93.185.26.253 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I have updated this article to include the release of Toy Story 4. I removed content about "15 films" being on the Top 50 list because this number needs to be updated. I don't know what the current number is so I had to remove it because it was out of date. I also removed some detail that is excessive for the lead of this article. I added that Toy Story 4 is among the top 50 top-grossing films of all times based on a June 2019 article published in Forbes. Dartslilly ( talk) 15:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I've seen a pattern on articles related to Pixar in which a lot of inexperienced editors do not understand that Pixar and Disney Animation (during and ever since the former Lasseter/Catmull management regime) both try to maintain a distinction between directors and co-directors. They apply the distinction quite consistently if you actually take the time to read both studios' press releases. The buck stops with directors (in the sense that they have final control over the artistic direction of a film), while co-directors share some directorial duties but ultimately are there to support the directors. Only directors get a formal "director" credit (which is especially important for film awards season). For example, the sole director credit on Coco went to Lee Unkrich, while Adrian Molina was credited as co-director. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 18:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
I notice someone insists that the number of original employees was 44. Co-founder Alvy Ray Smith has a scanned copy of the documents on his website: [3] These are exactly 40, not 44:
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The advertising section is really confusing (maybe a translation from another page?); I started editing it to fix grammatical errors but didn't know whether Pixar made the advertisements or some of these products were advertised in Pixar films. I assume the former, but stopped editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coreybchapman ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@ Pederjo99: has added the section Pixar#Franchises to the article, despite their franchises being already listed in the studio's respective template, therefore I think having this section is unnecessary and removed it, however, Pederjo99 restored it saying it's "necessary" (without any further explanation). I'd best argue to move it to List of Pixar films and/or whether other editors agree on having this section in the article - Gouleg🛋️ ( Talk • Contribs) 14:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that an IP readded "Steve Jobs" on the template's "Founders" parameter when I checked the article about Pixar out if there were more disruptive edits or vandalism. It seems insufficient to me that the IP wrote the edit summary as "Steve jobs as one of the founders." because saying that anyone is one of them is not a valid reason to include it.
In order to find out if this is not true at all, I clicked one of the links which another IP stated in one of the sections of this talk page how many employees were when this company became Pixar and it was true that Alvy Ray Smith said. According to this link, Steve Jobs was the Chairman of the Board but he wasn't the founder.
To sum up, while Smith's statements might be unreliable for some contributors if he doesn't have independent, secondary sources, it would be convenient to remove it from the "Founders" parameter, no?-- André the Android( talk) 19:48, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
It is likely this article no longer meets the good article criteria as it features a {{ more citations needed}} cleanup banner and superscript ordinals that go against the manual of style guidelines for numbers (see Pixar#Pixar: 20 Years of Animation).
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Delist per nom. Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 22:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Delist Hard for me to argue with you. It's been 3 months and none of the issues highlighted above have been fixed. -- The helper5667 ( talk) 22:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC) IAmAnIndividual ( talk) 22:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, the 'Notes' tab should be removed if no notes can be added to it as in my opinion it is pointless having an empty tab within the article. Xboxsponge15 ( talk) 09:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
For those who knows a little about the history of Pixar, they are aware that Steve Jobs was an investor, not a founder (and neither was John Lasseter). Only two people created Pixar; Ed Catmull and Alvy Ray Smith. The ones who keep adding Jobs doesn't even bother to read the full article they're editing, which contradicts the claim.
Sources: /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Alvyray https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-real-story-of-pixar https://www.mynewanimatedlife.com/2013/01/exclusiveinterview-with-alvy-ray-smith_19.html
Because the guy who keep reverting the edits even if the information is wrong refuse to post any replies, here is a quote from the article for anyone else who might be interested:
"Steve Jobs wasn’t a part of the Pixar team, except that he was the money behind it. It’s often thought that he bought Pixar from Lucasfilm (he didn’t), that animation was his idea (it wasn’t), that he ran Pixar (he didn’t). He’s often called the cofounder of Pixar (he wasn’t). The board hires a management to run a corporation. Steve, Ed, and I were the original board. It hired Ed and me to run Pixar. Steve did not run it. But he was Pixar’s venture capitalist. He came through with the money when we needed it. He owned 70% of the company because of his investment. We employees owned the other 30%. Over the course of several years, we ran out of money several times. Each time Steve wrote another check to the company for further investment, and took equity away from us. So eventually, by 1989 or so, he owned all of Pixar. So it’s not true that he bought Pixar from Lucasfilm. He funded the spinout of a startup company from Lucasfilm. This is standard practice in Silicon Valley. Meanwhile he started up his own company, Next. He ran Next while Ed Catmull and I ran Pixar."
The whole "Steve Jobs in a founder" is based on a single Tweet from an anonymous Pixar employee. That doesn't say much. It was also an anonymous Pixar employee who used the official Pixar account on Youtube to insult an amateur animator by writing "You suck at animation": https://www.trillmag.com/73448/read/life/amateur-animator-enacts-revenge-on-pixar-after-a-scathing-review-of-his-animation-skills/ 46.212.117.57 ( talk) 19:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Final sentence of the introduction:
“Since 2006, Pixar has been a subsidiary of Walt Disney Studios, a division of Disney Entertainment, which owned by The Walt Disney Company.”
That should read “which is owned by The Walt Disney Company.”
I’d make the edit myself, but the article is locked and I don’t have an account. Thanks. 114.172.51.56 ( talk) 08:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
The source for the alpha channel invention credits only Alvy, but both Alvy and Ed are credited in the history section. Either another source should be added, or Ed’s name removed. 73.59.120.118 ( talk) 16:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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For the final section of the History section (Covid and Financial Troubles), can someone please fix the dash in the title from "-" to "–"? Please. 2601:40A:8400:5A40:4475:E7C9:8762:8E07 ( talk) 18:45, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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COI - I'm the author of a textbook on the history of pixar DROIDMAKER, which is widely cited online, but i would be using it as the reference for all my adjustments to this history. This is how I believe it should read:
Pixar got its start in 1974, when New York Institute of Technology's (NYIT) founder, Alexander Schure, who was also the owner of a traditional animation studio, established the Computer Graphics Lab (CGL) and recruited computer scientists who shared his ambitions about creating the world's first computer-animated film. Edwin Catmull and Malcolm Blanchard were the first to be hired and were soon joined by Alvy Ray Smith and David DiFrancesco some months later, which were the four original members of the Computer Graphics Lab, located in a converted two-story garage acquired from the former Vanderbilt-Whitney estate. [1] [2]In the years prior to joining, Catmull had invented texture mapping and had produced the first computer animated film (of his hand). At NYIT, the researchers were given unprecedented technology of the day, and with that, pioneered many of the CG foundation techniques—in particular, the invention of the alpha channel by Catmull and Smith. [3] Schure kept pouring money into the lab, an estimated $15 million, giving the group everything they desired but driving NYIT into serious financial troubles. [4] Eventually, the group realized they needed to work in a real film studio in order to reach their goal.
By 1979, during pre-production for The Empire Strikes Back, George Lucas approached Catmull and offered him an opportunity to build a computer group at his studio to solve three specific problems he was having concerning editing, sound post production, and special effects. Catmull joined, and during the following months, his associates from CGL gradually resigned, found temporary jobs (to avoid making Schure suspicious), and eventually joined what became the "Graphics Group" at Lucasfilm. [5] [6] [7]
While Catmull ran the Lucasfilm Computer Division, Alvy Ray Smith was specifically in charge of the Graphics Group. The team, expanded importantly in 1980 to include Loren Carpenter (a pioneer of fractal graphics) and other key scientists, began developing the foundations for animation, a project they understood could take more than a decade. The team worked on creating the precursor to RenderMan, called REYES (for "renders everything you ever saw") and developed several critical technologies for CG—including particle effects and various animation tools. [8]
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List of Film Disney Pixar Aardman's Stage Fright 148.252.132.140 ( talk) 07:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
In the lead, "Disney announced it's acqusition" should read "Disney announced its acquisition" 99.146.242.37 ( talk) 04:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@ ZX2006XZ To be short, no one has officially confirmed this project's existence. Until that happens, it remains a rumor. DanielRPK and WorldofReel are not reputable sources to confirm or deny, it needs to come from someone close to production or Disney/Pixar themselves. That's as simple as it is, really.
Beyond this article, the mention of this project's existence is also featured in List of Pixar films and List of Walt Disney Pictures films. It should be removed from there as well. Madyoshi01 ( talk) 02:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
In the section starting with "The two companies attempted to reach a new agreement for ten months and failed...", a series of dates are listed then an apparent result is mentioned, but neither seems to match the objective of the start of the paragraph. Danlo88 ( talk) 19:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)