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Pinon Pine Nuts are an important traditional holiday and seasonal food throught out the Southwestern U.S. Families would collect the food in the fall and have it available through out the holidays. Everyone from the southwest recounts family stories of collecting and roasting pinon nuts. Gift giving of roasted pinon pine nuts was a common practice. The smell of roasting pinon is absolutely enticing. On the East Coast of United States, the nuts were sold as "Indian Nuts". Unless people use the traditions they are forgotten. The draught and other factors have impacted the Pinyon's nut production. If your purchase pine nuts pre- roasted, ASK how what process was used. We advise against MICROWAVE ROASTING. It ruins the food.
Many, many web sites wish to call any pine nut a pinon. The real test of a Pinon Nut falls within the law of New Mexico:
25-10-2. Unlawful labeling, advertising or selling of products as pinon nuts.
A. It is unlawful for any person to package any product and label the product as pinon nuts or as containing pinon nuts or to use the words pinon nuts in any prominent location on the label of such product or to advertise, sell or offer for sale any product which is labeled pinon nuts or as containing pinon nuts unless the product consists of pinon nuts or uses pinon nuts as an ingredient in the product.
B. As used in this section, "pinon nuts" means the edible nut which is the product of the pinon tree, scientifically known as genus "pinus", subgenus "strobus", section "parrya", subsection "cembroides"
Public Land use in the United States and Pine Nuts POLITICS OF PUBLIC LAND and Special Interests
The politics of the Western cattle industry and public land grazing is the primary reason. From 1950-72 the USFS and BLM cleared ("chained") over 3,211,000 acres of pinion-juniper to create grazing land. Before the huge corporations controlled grazing permits, pine nuts were harvested by the box car load and readily available. Those were the days before the chain-saw, bull dozer, massive herbicide treatments, the American Cattle’s Association and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The days before large expanses of maturing pine nut trees were destroyed to grow grass for cattle --- at taxpayer expense. Pinyon pinenuts sustained the native peoples of the Great Basin for over 10,000 years. The soft-shelled pinyon pinenut, (p.monophylla) provided primary protein to the Shoshone, Piautes and Washo peoples, containing substantial amounts of the amino acids necessary for human growth. It was a sacred part of the way they lived. Between 1865 to 1877, Native lands had been overrun with cattle and sheep. The pinion pines, which they depended upon for a pine nut crop each fall, were rapidly being cut down for fuel for the mine smelters. Smelting a ton of ore required from twenty-five to thirty-five bushels of charcoal. The mills at Eureka consumed as much as 1.25 million bushels of charcoal a year, destroying the Indians' pine nut groves.
I have worked very hard with land use and pine nuts in the United States. The contribution is based on material from my web site and I am pleased to see this excellent forum. Pinon Penny
Branding regional foods is a topic in itself. It would be an interesting legal question for many reasons and yes, it is only the jurisdiction of New Mexico which has enacted branding laws for pinon. Using the word "pinon" to mean any pine nut, at least in the US is a risky way way to communicate about pine nuts. People know P.edulis and P. monophylla flavor and are not happy when other species are substituted. Pine nuts are so rich in species diversity that one would think people would wish to educate about the special qualities of their regional species.
The freshness is key with any food. Most nuts arrive in the market place with the shell removed, with the living energy is gone. Mother Natures packing is by far the best. I bring pinon from the forest myself, and almost to the tree know when and how the nuts were picked. My favorite is P.monophylla. Pinus koraiensis is impressive to me, as well. I do not care for P.Pinea and P. Sibiricus oil is when cold pressed and properly handled is outstanding. I believe there are great variations in species, but obtaining the fresh product is indeed very difficult. Grafting confirs for nut productions is topic worthy of consideration. It would be an interesting thing to try different species for grafting.
Hey, would anyone object if I removed the phrase Red Indian from this text? I know it's used overseas to differentiate native American Indians from subcontinential India Indians, but it's considered somewhat offensive here in the U.S. to call people by color. Thanks. jengod 20:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
MPF recently merged Pine nut oil into Pine nut with the edit comment "not an important enough product for its own article". I've reverted the merge and put a {{ mergeto}} tag on the article to follow standard procedure for merging articles.
I've seen the line about 31 grams of protein all over the internet but I don't see where it came from. However, the US Nutritional database says that pine nuts have only about 13g of protein per 100g of nuts. 72.13.132.211 17:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody check the data? The amount of carbohydrates, fat, and proteins add to more than 100g. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.151.211 ( talk) 02:57, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
"Pine nuts are commercially available in shelled form, but due to poor storage, these rarely have a good flavour and may be already rancid at the time of purchase."
Here in the UK pine nuts are only available shelled and I've never come across a pack that are already rancid. Wouldn't it be pointless for the supermarket to sell pine nuts that they know will go rotten? Also, they taste fine to me... Monkeyspearfish ( talk) 14:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
It says that in Italian, these are called "pinoli", or rarely "pignoli" nuts. I've never called them Pinoli, and all I've ever heard people say is pignoli. I think the word "rarely" should be removed. 72.78.9.230 ( talk) 22:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I think it is incorrect to call Piñon nuts them Pine nuts when in fact aren't, literately speaking. Most "Pine Nuts" are harvested from pine trees, but are differentiated when Piñon nuts are being harvested. A person can buy a bag of pine nuts but aren't Piñon nuts. Piñon trees are somewhat different from other pine trees even though it technically is a pine tree, I'm no botanist but I do know that pine nuts are quite larger than those Piñon nuts while both comes from a pine cone. 216.138.82.198 ( talk) 11:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Some pine nuts are too small to be commercially useful but are still edible. In the Latin language, pinus is used to decribe all pine trees in the world. In the English language, "pine" is used to describe all pine trees in the world, whereas "pinyon" is used to describe aspects of three species of North American pine trees. In the Spanish language, piñon is used to describe all pine trees in the world. The English word "pinyon" was derived from the Spanish word piñon because the pinyon trees are New World pine trees that, as you noted, are different in not having commercially harvestable seeds. This may be a successful adaption in response to the Western conifer seed bug. 68.32.154.213 ( talk) 13:03, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
—"Piñón" is not the Spanish word to describe all pine trees in the world. The standard word for "pine tree" is "pino". The most common use for "piñón" is that of "pine nut" (what Italians call "pinolo"). However, there is a New World bush which is called piñón. See DRAE: http://dle.rae.es/?id=T5yeBD9%7CT60QAoW%7CT62Ftnz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cervantista ( talk • contribs) 01:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I find the article slightly troubling because it warns against pine nuts from China but then talks of Asian-type pine nuts and gives a picture of Korean pine nuts to help identify good from bad pine nuts. To be honest, that whole paragraph is unhelpful. How common are the nasty nuts? I presume shops aren't going to sell a dodgy type of pine nut, or are they just as confused as this article? qp10qp ( talk) 17:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, then, I've removed the section and placed it here for appraisal (see below). The nuts I buy are from Turkey, which is in Asia and Europe, and I've never had any taste disturbances from them. I assume my country doesn't import food that fails our food standards. Certainly the section seems unnecessarily alarmist, and unfair on China and even the whole of Asia. Maybe a sentence about this issue should be in the article, worded in a less advisory fashion, but no more. qp10qp ( talk) 12:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
The eating of pine nuts can cause serious taste disturbances, lasting for days or weeks. The taste disturbance develops one or two days after consumption. A bitter, metallic taste is described. The pine nuts involved are always imported from China, but only a minority of Chinese pine nuts present this problem. Until now it is not clear which pine species is implicated. Concerning the cause, it has been observed that the pine nuts involved typically contain triglycerides formed by 16-18° unsaturated fatty acids. Analysis on pesticide residues and heavy metal did not reveal any contamination. [1]. Though very unpleasant, there doesn't seem to be a real health concern. The problem can be avoided by not consuming Chinese pine nuts. They can be recognised because they are shorter. The biological species of pine nut is normally not described on the package, however, the pictures of an European and Asian type of pine nuts are given to illustrate the general differences in form that can make the distinction.
its not my contribution but if you've ever eatin them you would understand, and why are you policing the pine nuts article anyway, does any know anything to counter the effects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.220.128 ( talk) 22:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I had pine nuts from dubious source that caused taste disturbance. The symptoms were gone after eating half teaspoon of cinnamon powder. 192.88.168.35 ( talk) 19:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Stefano Pietri
From a new editor: having recently experienced this taste disturbance, and spent hours trying to establish some form of diagnosis ("what's happening to me ?!?), decided that others might benefit from additional references and from the insertion of the "pine mouth" colloquialism. Fallingditch ( talk) 10:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Same thing happened to me. Bought a small bag of pine nuts, presumably the Chinese variety from the images I've looked at, and got the most bitter taste a few days later. Only after a web search did I find out about "pine-mouth". Don't have any bitter taste until a few seconds after I eat something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.199.231 ( talk) 19:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
"A well known physiological process known as enterohepatic recirculation (EHR) could play a key role in the development of PNS."
Moving this to Talk for now
In literature and legend
In an important Pueblo Indian story, a maiden eats a pine nut given to her by a divine figure and becomes pregnant. The child she bears is the Aztec conqueror Montezuma. citation needed
Seems quite unlikely on the face of it. This quote has been tagged as "citation needed" since July 2008 without results. Please provide a good cite for this before restoring to the article. -- 201.37.230.43 ( talk) 17:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I recently heard that pine nuts act as an appetite suppressant. I found a link to a creative commons-licensed article on the National Institute of Health's website: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2322999
If someone would be interested in adding this content to the article, it would be beneficial. SweetNightmares ( talk) 19:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
It's only an appetite suppressant because now everything tastes like crap. :'( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.91.190.150 ( talk) 19:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I second that. Everything tastes awful now. This "pine mouth" business is real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.94.39 ( talk) 19:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I found this statement in the article:
This is false. The word pinocchio is just a Tuscan word for pinolo and derives directly from Latin *pīnuculus (Devoto, Battisti-Alessio) and has nothing to do with eyes or similar.-- Carnby ( talk) 18:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The article mentions in passing that P. koraiensis is the most common species in international trade, and that P. pinea is the major species (grown) in Europe. I'm wondering to what extent P. pinea is available (in Europe particularly). In the US, it's almost impossible to find P. pinea pine-nuts. The grocers in the Italian neighborhood near me that specialize in imported products do not carry any P. pinea pine-nuts. Major brands of imported Italian foods (e.g. Cento, Alessi) in the US sell Asian pine nuts even though many of their other products are imported from Italy (I'm a little puzzled by this one: http://www.delallo.com/products/pignoli-nuts, the label on the jar calls them "Spanish pignolis", but the nuts themselves look more like P. koraiensis than P. pinea). Given that Asian pine nuts are much cheaper than European pine nuts, I'd suspect that much of what is commercially available in Europe is actually from Asian pine species. The figures shown here ( http://www.pinenut.com/value.html) suggest that Europe relies heavily on Asian sources (45% of Chinese production goes to the US, around 10% each to UK, Holland and Germany; given their smaller populations, it appears Chinese pine nuts are just as prevalent in these 3 northern European countries as the US).
Basically, in summary, I'm very skeptical that "In Europe, pine nuts come from the Stone Pine (Pinus pinea)". That may be true in Italy, Portugal, Spain and Turkey, but it sure looks to me like the rest of Europe (and the world) gets almost all of their pine nuts from Asia. And I wouldn't be surprised if the cheaper Asian pine nuts are prevalent in Italy as well. Is there a reference for the availability of P. pinea nuts in Europe? Can anybody in Europe confirm that P. pinea nuts are the most commonly available species? 192.104.39.2 ( talk) 20:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hatnotes are for disambiguation or where for other reasons the topic might be confused with a similar name per this guideline That is not the case here - Araucaria can be mentioned in the "See also" section. Philg88 ♦ talk 05:59, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Pinon Pine Nuts are an important traditional holiday and seasonal food throught out the Southwestern U.S. Families would collect the food in the fall and have it available through out the holidays. Everyone from the southwest recounts family stories of collecting and roasting pinon nuts. Gift giving of roasted pinon pine nuts was a common practice. The smell of roasting pinon is absolutely enticing. On the East Coast of United States, the nuts were sold as "Indian Nuts". Unless people use the traditions they are forgotten. The draught and other factors have impacted the Pinyon's nut production. If your purchase pine nuts pre- roasted, ASK how what process was used. We advise against MICROWAVE ROASTING. It ruins the food.
Many, many web sites wish to call any pine nut a pinon. The real test of a Pinon Nut falls within the law of New Mexico:
25-10-2. Unlawful labeling, advertising or selling of products as pinon nuts.
A. It is unlawful for any person to package any product and label the product as pinon nuts or as containing pinon nuts or to use the words pinon nuts in any prominent location on the label of such product or to advertise, sell or offer for sale any product which is labeled pinon nuts or as containing pinon nuts unless the product consists of pinon nuts or uses pinon nuts as an ingredient in the product.
B. As used in this section, "pinon nuts" means the edible nut which is the product of the pinon tree, scientifically known as genus "pinus", subgenus "strobus", section "parrya", subsection "cembroides"
Public Land use in the United States and Pine Nuts POLITICS OF PUBLIC LAND and Special Interests
The politics of the Western cattle industry and public land grazing is the primary reason. From 1950-72 the USFS and BLM cleared ("chained") over 3,211,000 acres of pinion-juniper to create grazing land. Before the huge corporations controlled grazing permits, pine nuts were harvested by the box car load and readily available. Those were the days before the chain-saw, bull dozer, massive herbicide treatments, the American Cattle’s Association and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The days before large expanses of maturing pine nut trees were destroyed to grow grass for cattle --- at taxpayer expense. Pinyon pinenuts sustained the native peoples of the Great Basin for over 10,000 years. The soft-shelled pinyon pinenut, (p.monophylla) provided primary protein to the Shoshone, Piautes and Washo peoples, containing substantial amounts of the amino acids necessary for human growth. It was a sacred part of the way they lived. Between 1865 to 1877, Native lands had been overrun with cattle and sheep. The pinion pines, which they depended upon for a pine nut crop each fall, were rapidly being cut down for fuel for the mine smelters. Smelting a ton of ore required from twenty-five to thirty-five bushels of charcoal. The mills at Eureka consumed as much as 1.25 million bushels of charcoal a year, destroying the Indians' pine nut groves.
I have worked very hard with land use and pine nuts in the United States. The contribution is based on material from my web site and I am pleased to see this excellent forum. Pinon Penny
Branding regional foods is a topic in itself. It would be an interesting legal question for many reasons and yes, it is only the jurisdiction of New Mexico which has enacted branding laws for pinon. Using the word "pinon" to mean any pine nut, at least in the US is a risky way way to communicate about pine nuts. People know P.edulis and P. monophylla flavor and are not happy when other species are substituted. Pine nuts are so rich in species diversity that one would think people would wish to educate about the special qualities of their regional species.
The freshness is key with any food. Most nuts arrive in the market place with the shell removed, with the living energy is gone. Mother Natures packing is by far the best. I bring pinon from the forest myself, and almost to the tree know when and how the nuts were picked. My favorite is P.monophylla. Pinus koraiensis is impressive to me, as well. I do not care for P.Pinea and P. Sibiricus oil is when cold pressed and properly handled is outstanding. I believe there are great variations in species, but obtaining the fresh product is indeed very difficult. Grafting confirs for nut productions is topic worthy of consideration. It would be an interesting thing to try different species for grafting.
Hey, would anyone object if I removed the phrase Red Indian from this text? I know it's used overseas to differentiate native American Indians from subcontinential India Indians, but it's considered somewhat offensive here in the U.S. to call people by color. Thanks. jengod 20:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
MPF recently merged Pine nut oil into Pine nut with the edit comment "not an important enough product for its own article". I've reverted the merge and put a {{ mergeto}} tag on the article to follow standard procedure for merging articles.
I've seen the line about 31 grams of protein all over the internet but I don't see where it came from. However, the US Nutritional database says that pine nuts have only about 13g of protein per 100g of nuts. 72.13.132.211 17:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody check the data? The amount of carbohydrates, fat, and proteins add to more than 100g. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.151.211 ( talk) 02:57, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
"Pine nuts are commercially available in shelled form, but due to poor storage, these rarely have a good flavour and may be already rancid at the time of purchase."
Here in the UK pine nuts are only available shelled and I've never come across a pack that are already rancid. Wouldn't it be pointless for the supermarket to sell pine nuts that they know will go rotten? Also, they taste fine to me... Monkeyspearfish ( talk) 14:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
It says that in Italian, these are called "pinoli", or rarely "pignoli" nuts. I've never called them Pinoli, and all I've ever heard people say is pignoli. I think the word "rarely" should be removed. 72.78.9.230 ( talk) 22:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I think it is incorrect to call Piñon nuts them Pine nuts when in fact aren't, literately speaking. Most "Pine Nuts" are harvested from pine trees, but are differentiated when Piñon nuts are being harvested. A person can buy a bag of pine nuts but aren't Piñon nuts. Piñon trees are somewhat different from other pine trees even though it technically is a pine tree, I'm no botanist but I do know that pine nuts are quite larger than those Piñon nuts while both comes from a pine cone. 216.138.82.198 ( talk) 11:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Some pine nuts are too small to be commercially useful but are still edible. In the Latin language, pinus is used to decribe all pine trees in the world. In the English language, "pine" is used to describe all pine trees in the world, whereas "pinyon" is used to describe aspects of three species of North American pine trees. In the Spanish language, piñon is used to describe all pine trees in the world. The English word "pinyon" was derived from the Spanish word piñon because the pinyon trees are New World pine trees that, as you noted, are different in not having commercially harvestable seeds. This may be a successful adaption in response to the Western conifer seed bug. 68.32.154.213 ( talk) 13:03, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
—"Piñón" is not the Spanish word to describe all pine trees in the world. The standard word for "pine tree" is "pino". The most common use for "piñón" is that of "pine nut" (what Italians call "pinolo"). However, there is a New World bush which is called piñón. See DRAE: http://dle.rae.es/?id=T5yeBD9%7CT60QAoW%7CT62Ftnz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cervantista ( talk • contribs) 01:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I find the article slightly troubling because it warns against pine nuts from China but then talks of Asian-type pine nuts and gives a picture of Korean pine nuts to help identify good from bad pine nuts. To be honest, that whole paragraph is unhelpful. How common are the nasty nuts? I presume shops aren't going to sell a dodgy type of pine nut, or are they just as confused as this article? qp10qp ( talk) 17:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, then, I've removed the section and placed it here for appraisal (see below). The nuts I buy are from Turkey, which is in Asia and Europe, and I've never had any taste disturbances from them. I assume my country doesn't import food that fails our food standards. Certainly the section seems unnecessarily alarmist, and unfair on China and even the whole of Asia. Maybe a sentence about this issue should be in the article, worded in a less advisory fashion, but no more. qp10qp ( talk) 12:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
The eating of pine nuts can cause serious taste disturbances, lasting for days or weeks. The taste disturbance develops one or two days after consumption. A bitter, metallic taste is described. The pine nuts involved are always imported from China, but only a minority of Chinese pine nuts present this problem. Until now it is not clear which pine species is implicated. Concerning the cause, it has been observed that the pine nuts involved typically contain triglycerides formed by 16-18° unsaturated fatty acids. Analysis on pesticide residues and heavy metal did not reveal any contamination. [1]. Though very unpleasant, there doesn't seem to be a real health concern. The problem can be avoided by not consuming Chinese pine nuts. They can be recognised because they are shorter. The biological species of pine nut is normally not described on the package, however, the pictures of an European and Asian type of pine nuts are given to illustrate the general differences in form that can make the distinction.
its not my contribution but if you've ever eatin them you would understand, and why are you policing the pine nuts article anyway, does any know anything to counter the effects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.220.128 ( talk) 22:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I had pine nuts from dubious source that caused taste disturbance. The symptoms were gone after eating half teaspoon of cinnamon powder. 192.88.168.35 ( talk) 19:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Stefano Pietri
From a new editor: having recently experienced this taste disturbance, and spent hours trying to establish some form of diagnosis ("what's happening to me ?!?), decided that others might benefit from additional references and from the insertion of the "pine mouth" colloquialism. Fallingditch ( talk) 10:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Same thing happened to me. Bought a small bag of pine nuts, presumably the Chinese variety from the images I've looked at, and got the most bitter taste a few days later. Only after a web search did I find out about "pine-mouth". Don't have any bitter taste until a few seconds after I eat something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.199.231 ( talk) 19:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
"A well known physiological process known as enterohepatic recirculation (EHR) could play a key role in the development of PNS."
Moving this to Talk for now
In literature and legend
In an important Pueblo Indian story, a maiden eats a pine nut given to her by a divine figure and becomes pregnant. The child she bears is the Aztec conqueror Montezuma. citation needed
Seems quite unlikely on the face of it. This quote has been tagged as "citation needed" since July 2008 without results. Please provide a good cite for this before restoring to the article. -- 201.37.230.43 ( talk) 17:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I recently heard that pine nuts act as an appetite suppressant. I found a link to a creative commons-licensed article on the National Institute of Health's website: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2322999
If someone would be interested in adding this content to the article, it would be beneficial. SweetNightmares ( talk) 19:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
It's only an appetite suppressant because now everything tastes like crap. :'( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.91.190.150 ( talk) 19:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I second that. Everything tastes awful now. This "pine mouth" business is real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.94.39 ( talk) 19:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I found this statement in the article:
This is false. The word pinocchio is just a Tuscan word for pinolo and derives directly from Latin *pīnuculus (Devoto, Battisti-Alessio) and has nothing to do with eyes or similar.-- Carnby ( talk) 18:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The article mentions in passing that P. koraiensis is the most common species in international trade, and that P. pinea is the major species (grown) in Europe. I'm wondering to what extent P. pinea is available (in Europe particularly). In the US, it's almost impossible to find P. pinea pine-nuts. The grocers in the Italian neighborhood near me that specialize in imported products do not carry any P. pinea pine-nuts. Major brands of imported Italian foods (e.g. Cento, Alessi) in the US sell Asian pine nuts even though many of their other products are imported from Italy (I'm a little puzzled by this one: http://www.delallo.com/products/pignoli-nuts, the label on the jar calls them "Spanish pignolis", but the nuts themselves look more like P. koraiensis than P. pinea). Given that Asian pine nuts are much cheaper than European pine nuts, I'd suspect that much of what is commercially available in Europe is actually from Asian pine species. The figures shown here ( http://www.pinenut.com/value.html) suggest that Europe relies heavily on Asian sources (45% of Chinese production goes to the US, around 10% each to UK, Holland and Germany; given their smaller populations, it appears Chinese pine nuts are just as prevalent in these 3 northern European countries as the US).
Basically, in summary, I'm very skeptical that "In Europe, pine nuts come from the Stone Pine (Pinus pinea)". That may be true in Italy, Portugal, Spain and Turkey, but it sure looks to me like the rest of Europe (and the world) gets almost all of their pine nuts from Asia. And I wouldn't be surprised if the cheaper Asian pine nuts are prevalent in Italy as well. Is there a reference for the availability of P. pinea nuts in Europe? Can anybody in Europe confirm that P. pinea nuts are the most commonly available species? 192.104.39.2 ( talk) 20:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hatnotes are for disambiguation or where for other reasons the topic might be confused with a similar name per this guideline That is not the case here - Araucaria can be mentioned in the "See also" section. Philg88 ♦ talk 05:59, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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It is not clear in this article whether pine/pinyon nuts are safe to eat raw (or palatable raw), or must be cooked. This is an important detail when describing or defining any food stuff. -- LaEremita ( talk) 01:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I think this edit is spam. Invasive Spices ( talk) 22:49, 7 June 2021 (UTC)