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Responsibility for the assassinations was claimed by a small republican organisation called Irish National Invincibles and they were apparently to resign from parliament in protest at what he called "these vile murders", an offer turned down by the British Prime Minister, William Ewart Gladstone.
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teneriff ( talk) 01:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Changing the article title from Murders to Killings should be reversed. Calling the incident Murders does not contravene WP:NPOV, they were deliberate killings whatever one's view of the politics, and that is how they have always been referred to. The move should have been requested via the talk page as per WP:RM#CM. GooglerW ( talk) 12:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Agree it should be at killings as the most neutral. In this specific political context, the "legality" and legitimacy of the British state in Ireland was disputed by the Irish republicans who carried out the action. We don't for example describe the operations of the French Resistance against the occupying forces of the Third Reich as murder. These men were certainly killed so the phrase "killings" is neutral from both sides of the argument. Claíomh Solais ( talk) 00:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
The title of the article should be sorted out. As has already been mentioned on this page, both references, in the first sentence of the article, refer to books about "Phoenix Park Murders", not "Phoenix Park Killings". I would change the name back myself but I'm not sure how to do it correctly. Hohenloh + 20:05, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
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The sentence:
Responsibility for the assassinations was claimed by a small republican organisation called Irish National Invincibles and they were apparently to resign from parliament in protest at what he called "these vile murders", an offer turned down by the British Prime Minister, William Ewart Gladstone.
needs clarification
teneriff ( talk) 01:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Changing the article title from Murders to Killings should be reversed. Calling the incident Murders does not contravene WP:NPOV, they were deliberate killings whatever one's view of the politics, and that is how they have always been referred to. The move should have been requested via the talk page as per WP:RM#CM. GooglerW ( talk) 12:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Agree it should be at killings as the most neutral. In this specific political context, the "legality" and legitimacy of the British state in Ireland was disputed by the Irish republicans who carried out the action. We don't for example describe the operations of the French Resistance against the occupying forces of the Third Reich as murder. These men were certainly killed so the phrase "killings" is neutral from both sides of the argument. Claíomh Solais ( talk) 00:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
The title of the article should be sorted out. As has already been mentioned on this page, both references, in the first sentence of the article, refer to books about "Phoenix Park Murders", not "Phoenix Park Killings". I would change the name back myself but I'm not sure how to do it correctly. Hohenloh + 20:05, 5 September 2017 (UTC)