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Hi Pretzelles! I aim to take a look at this over the next few days (and maybe a bit tonight, we'll see). I happen to have just put a queer pornography article up for GAN myself, so it seems fitting for me to review this one. You can see Talk:Joseph (art model)/GA1 for a sense of my style as a GA reviewer—although expect me to be stricter on sourcing than there, given that this is a BLP. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reply in this subsection. I'll put more itemized concerns in subsections below, in a bulleted format; you can reply to the bulleted items inline after some marker, as Ppt91 did in that example, or on a new line as Sammi Brie did in Talk:Vermont Public/GA1. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 03:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Is this the title the article should be at? Recent coverage seems to all call him by his birth name, and that is the name under which he ran for office. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 01:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
All right, done with my initial review. This is a really interesting article, but has nontrivial BLP and NPOV issues as stands. I've listed quite a few things to resolve, but I understand this is your first nomination, so I've also given what I hope is a clear framework for how to resolve all these issues. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 04:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
:)
No rush on responding. (I do feel like I had some stray thought to mention, but now I can't remember. I'll add it if it comes back to me.) --
Tamzin[
cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 22:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I remembered the other thing! There's a lot of redlinks in the article. Now, I'm a big redlink enthusiast, so I'm not complaining about that. But are all of these people who are presumptively notable: adult entertainers
Roman Ragazzi,
Dak Ramsey,
Tober Brandt,
Ricky Sinz,
Scott Tanner,
Jack Dragon, and
Wilfried Knight; porn exec
Tim Valenti; and studio
Elite Male? If there's a credible case for notability for all of them, then very well, but I thought I'd ask. Although, if Tanner is going to be redlinked, that is
a sufficiently common name that he should probably be redlinked as [[Scott Tanner (adult entertainer)|]]
or such. Same may go for Elite Male, which is a division in several athletic leagues, although one could argue that it's unambiguous for something just called Elite Male. --
Tamzin[
cetacean needed (
they|xe) 01:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
the military(lede & § Early life) → "the German military". Maybe pipe Bundeswehr; [1] and [2] both usable as sources
heavily-tattooed(×3): drop hyphen per MOS:HYPHEN
He is known for his heavily-tattooed body, which he views as an expression of his spiritual beliefs, and was named Performer of the Year at the 2010 GayVN Award: These are two unrelated things, and putting it in one sentence creates the potential ambiguity that the body was named Performer of the Year. Suggest splitting.
'son of the King'lowercase per MOS:CONFORM
Their scene together was described by director Ben Leon as 'by far the best scene I have shot with Roman'.Passive voice + first person quote is confusing. Active voice (Ben Leon described...) would remedy this.
Best Threeway and Best Threesome at the 2009 Grabby and GayVN awards shows: Append respectively
directed by and starring Jake Deckard
interest; and maybe link child custody?intoin child custody issues
targets that correspond to the meaning clearly intended by the quote's author. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 20:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
he claimed to be becoming: Is there a reason to doubt him? he said he was becoming
I will check at least one citation used for every BLP claim, and will spot-check other citations.
fictional 'dream team'. Could you explain in slightly more detail what it means to be on the "dream team"?
his interest in child custody that led Tanzer to make the jump to becoming a full-on MRA, but doesn't say that that interest was novel.
Since I was a little boy I felt that I am not 100 % human and I felt very connected to angels. I still believe that I am part angel and as a symbol for my deep connection with the heavenly warriors I got my own armature as a tattooshould be reflected in more than just
felt connected to angels from a young age.
a symbol for my deep connection with the heavenly warriors I got my own armature as a tattoo. If you have different ideas on what that could mean, it would be good to hear!
An outline of his own body, representing his connection to angelswithout running into WP:SYNTH issues. "Armature" is just too vague a word in this context, especially without a specific tattoo clearly being referred to. Looking at the photo you link, it's definitely reasonable to take that as a tattoo of his own body, and maybe you could describe that as A figure similar to McCree's own tattooed body, citing the image itself I guess? But then that runs into the problem that if no RS has ever commented on that tattoo, is it worth giving weight to?
society's liberal natureis an accurate paraphrase of his statement about
too much liberalism. I would quote it or paraphrase more directly.
'usually'. It's fine to use that word in wikivoice here. Speaking of wikivoice, but feels should probably be but says he feels
In 2020, McCree founded the group Gender Parity UK, which aims to ensure gender parity in British societyraises NPOV issues in two directions: It only cites primary sources, raising the question of if this is WP:DUE based on secondary source coverage. But if it is DUE, I'm not convinced that that description of the group's views is neutral. It might be how they perceive themself, but not necessarily how, say, a feminist group would. Applies also to
gender parityin lede.
which fights against alleged discrimination against men and boysfrom the ICMI website which hopefully leans towards NPOV. Have added a reference about march held by the group with direct quote from McCree as to what he sees it's purpose being. Le me know if needs further work or removing entirely!
rejects modern feminism's alleged move from egalitarianismis a bit weasel-y. Maybe criticizes what he sees as modern feminism moving away from egalitarianism
The result was: promoted by
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Improved to Good Article status by Pretzelles ( talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Philipp Tanzer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: All hooks approved, but I think ALT0 is the best. The infobox picture could be added if the nominator wishes. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 14:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Sources say he is 'German'. Giant Snowman 11:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Pretzelles! I aim to take a look at this over the next few days (and maybe a bit tonight, we'll see). I happen to have just put a queer pornography article up for GAN myself, so it seems fitting for me to review this one. You can see Talk:Joseph (art model)/GA1 for a sense of my style as a GA reviewer—although expect me to be stricter on sourcing than there, given that this is a BLP. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reply in this subsection. I'll put more itemized concerns in subsections below, in a bulleted format; you can reply to the bulleted items inline after some marker, as Ppt91 did in that example, or on a new line as Sammi Brie did in Talk:Vermont Public/GA1. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 03:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Is this the title the article should be at? Recent coverage seems to all call him by his birth name, and that is the name under which he ran for office. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 01:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
All right, done with my initial review. This is a really interesting article, but has nontrivial BLP and NPOV issues as stands. I've listed quite a few things to resolve, but I understand this is your first nomination, so I've also given what I hope is a clear framework for how to resolve all these issues. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 04:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
:)
No rush on responding. (I do feel like I had some stray thought to mention, but now I can't remember. I'll add it if it comes back to me.) --
Tamzin[
cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 22:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I remembered the other thing! There's a lot of redlinks in the article. Now, I'm a big redlink enthusiast, so I'm not complaining about that. But are all of these people who are presumptively notable: adult entertainers
Roman Ragazzi,
Dak Ramsey,
Tober Brandt,
Ricky Sinz,
Scott Tanner,
Jack Dragon, and
Wilfried Knight; porn exec
Tim Valenti; and studio
Elite Male? If there's a credible case for notability for all of them, then very well, but I thought I'd ask. Although, if Tanner is going to be redlinked, that is
a sufficiently common name that he should probably be redlinked as [[Scott Tanner (adult entertainer)|]]
or such. Same may go for Elite Male, which is a division in several athletic leagues, although one could argue that it's unambiguous for something just called Elite Male. --
Tamzin[
cetacean needed (
they|xe) 01:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
the military(lede & § Early life) → "the German military". Maybe pipe Bundeswehr; [1] and [2] both usable as sources
heavily-tattooed(×3): drop hyphen per MOS:HYPHEN
He is known for his heavily-tattooed body, which he views as an expression of his spiritual beliefs, and was named Performer of the Year at the 2010 GayVN Award: These are two unrelated things, and putting it in one sentence creates the potential ambiguity that the body was named Performer of the Year. Suggest splitting.
'son of the King'lowercase per MOS:CONFORM
Their scene together was described by director Ben Leon as 'by far the best scene I have shot with Roman'.Passive voice + first person quote is confusing. Active voice (Ben Leon described...) would remedy this.
Best Threeway and Best Threesome at the 2009 Grabby and GayVN awards shows: Append respectively
directed by and starring Jake Deckard
interest; and maybe link child custody?intoin child custody issues
targets that correspond to the meaning clearly intended by the quote's author. -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed (they|xe|she) 20:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
he claimed to be becoming: Is there a reason to doubt him? he said he was becoming
I will check at least one citation used for every BLP claim, and will spot-check other citations.
fictional 'dream team'. Could you explain in slightly more detail what it means to be on the "dream team"?
his interest in child custody that led Tanzer to make the jump to becoming a full-on MRA, but doesn't say that that interest was novel.
Since I was a little boy I felt that I am not 100 % human and I felt very connected to angels. I still believe that I am part angel and as a symbol for my deep connection with the heavenly warriors I got my own armature as a tattooshould be reflected in more than just
felt connected to angels from a young age.
a symbol for my deep connection with the heavenly warriors I got my own armature as a tattoo. If you have different ideas on what that could mean, it would be good to hear!
An outline of his own body, representing his connection to angelswithout running into WP:SYNTH issues. "Armature" is just too vague a word in this context, especially without a specific tattoo clearly being referred to. Looking at the photo you link, it's definitely reasonable to take that as a tattoo of his own body, and maybe you could describe that as A figure similar to McCree's own tattooed body, citing the image itself I guess? But then that runs into the problem that if no RS has ever commented on that tattoo, is it worth giving weight to?
society's liberal natureis an accurate paraphrase of his statement about
too much liberalism. I would quote it or paraphrase more directly.
'usually'. It's fine to use that word in wikivoice here. Speaking of wikivoice, but feels should probably be but says he feels
In 2020, McCree founded the group Gender Parity UK, which aims to ensure gender parity in British societyraises NPOV issues in two directions: It only cites primary sources, raising the question of if this is WP:DUE based on secondary source coverage. But if it is DUE, I'm not convinced that that description of the group's views is neutral. It might be how they perceive themself, but not necessarily how, say, a feminist group would. Applies also to
gender parityin lede.
which fights against alleged discrimination against men and boysfrom the ICMI website which hopefully leans towards NPOV. Have added a reference about march held by the group with direct quote from McCree as to what he sees it's purpose being. Le me know if needs further work or removing entirely!
rejects modern feminism's alleged move from egalitarianismis a bit weasel-y. Maybe criticizes what he sees as modern feminism moving away from egalitarianism
The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron
talk 09:51, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Pretzelles ( talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Philipp Tanzer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: All hooks approved, but I think ALT0 is the best. The infobox picture could be added if the nominator wishes. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 14:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Sources say he is 'German'. Giant Snowman 11:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)