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Justice Hugo Black, who served on the Supreme Court 1937 to 1971, came under attack from Hamburger who argues that his views on Church and State were deeply tainted by his membership in the 1920s a vehemently anti-Catholic organization, the KKK. Law professor Daniel L. Dreisbach summarizes Hamburger's critique:
[Black's] affinity for church-state separation and the metaphor was rooted in virulent anti-Catholicism. Philip Hamburger has argued that Justice Black, a former Alabama Ku Klux Klansman, was the product of a remarkable "confluence of Protestant [specifically Baptist], nativist, and progressive anti-Catholic forces.... Black's association with the Klan has been much discussed in connection with his liberal views on race, but, in fact, his membership suggests more about [his] ideals of Americanism," especially his support for separation of church and state. "Black had long before sworn, under the light of flaming crosses, to preserve ‘the sacred constitutional rights' of ‘free public schools' and ‘separation of church and state.'" Although he later distanced himself from the Klan, "Black's distaste for Catholicism did not diminish." Hamburger, Separation of Church and State, pp. 423, 434, 462, 463. [3]
The initial quotation is not what the source says; what Dogliano actually says is Perhaps the leading revisionists in the study of church-state relations are Daniel L. Driesbach and Philip Hamburger. An unsubtle difference that; once we quote this correctly, the fact that one fringe scholar quotes another will become unsurprising (and so of no encyclopedic interest). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:28, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
The comments above from 29 November 2011 leave me wondering what is being discussed about Phillip Hamburger.-- Dthomsen8 ( talk) 00:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Several public libraries have entries giving the birth year as 1957, but I didn't find one worth citing. — MaxEnt 21:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Article claims NCLA describes itself as nonpartisan, which is true, but in reality, independent sources not connected to NCLA say it is conservative or right-wing. This needs to be corrected. They are clearly aligned with the conservative right and their funding comes primarily from right-wing foundations. [2] They are famous for promoting conservative goals, such as blocking the bump stock ban and allowing mass evictions during the pandemic and cheerleading the appointment of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court. Still looking for the nonpartisan angle, but I don't think I'll ever find it. Viriditas ( talk) 11:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Justice Hugo Black, who served on the Supreme Court 1937 to 1971, came under attack from Hamburger who argues that his views on Church and State were deeply tainted by his membership in the 1920s a vehemently anti-Catholic organization, the KKK. Law professor Daniel L. Dreisbach summarizes Hamburger's critique:
[Black's] affinity for church-state separation and the metaphor was rooted in virulent anti-Catholicism. Philip Hamburger has argued that Justice Black, a former Alabama Ku Klux Klansman, was the product of a remarkable "confluence of Protestant [specifically Baptist], nativist, and progressive anti-Catholic forces.... Black's association with the Klan has been much discussed in connection with his liberal views on race, but, in fact, his membership suggests more about [his] ideals of Americanism," especially his support for separation of church and state. "Black had long before sworn, under the light of flaming crosses, to preserve ‘the sacred constitutional rights' of ‘free public schools' and ‘separation of church and state.'" Although he later distanced himself from the Klan, "Black's distaste for Catholicism did not diminish." Hamburger, Separation of Church and State, pp. 423, 434, 462, 463. [3]
The initial quotation is not what the source says; what Dogliano actually says is Perhaps the leading revisionists in the study of church-state relations are Daniel L. Driesbach and Philip Hamburger. An unsubtle difference that; once we quote this correctly, the fact that one fringe scholar quotes another will become unsurprising (and so of no encyclopedic interest). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:28, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
The comments above from 29 November 2011 leave me wondering what is being discussed about Phillip Hamburger.-- Dthomsen8 ( talk) 00:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Several public libraries have entries giving the birth year as 1957, but I didn't find one worth citing. — MaxEnt 21:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Article claims NCLA describes itself as nonpartisan, which is true, but in reality, independent sources not connected to NCLA say it is conservative or right-wing. This needs to be corrected. They are clearly aligned with the conservative right and their funding comes primarily from right-wing foundations. [2] They are famous for promoting conservative goals, such as blocking the bump stock ban and allowing mass evictions during the pandemic and cheerleading the appointment of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court. Still looking for the nonpartisan angle, but I don't think I'll ever find it. Viriditas ( talk) 11:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)