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The way the article is written as a piece of propaganda. The angry tone is remarkable to the point of being slanderous. Hawkseye 22:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Angella101 ( talk) 21:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Why is the article so stiff and laudatory? This is a guy who Fortune Magazine (yeah, FORTUNE) called "the greediest executive" on the planet! His phony "Media Research Council" were responsible for over half of the complaints the FCC received last year for "indecency" on television. I mean, come on...the guy is a right-wing apocalyptic evangelical who uses his inherited businesses to further his hateful, brainless variety of Christianity. Not to mention his hatred of reason and science which he furthers by funding the completely bogus creationist "Discovery Institute". His fundamentalism has been widely reported on in the press so why is it not at least documented in the article here? Inoculatedcities 16:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
The comments above deserve a point-by-point response. The Fortune Magazine article which branded Phil Anschutz at the "Greediest executive" failed to provide the full set of facts for the very basis of this outrageous descriptor. As the founder of Qwest and the person who invested hundreds of million dollar in the company, Anschutz was given a certain amount of "founders stock" when Qwest went public. In 1999 Anschutz sold a portion of his Qwest stock through three sales that amounted to approximately 20% of hia Qwest portfolio. The largest of the three was a $1.6 billion sale to Bell South, to which Fortune writer Mark Gimein took strong exception. What Gimein didn't report was the stock sale was required by Bell South because its officials wanted to decrease Anschutz's ownership in Qwest as a predicate to Bell Sounth entering into joint ventures with Qwest and perhaps even a merger. Anschutz held onto the remaining 80% of his original stock for years ... as its value contined to decline. Anschutz didn't sell the remaining stock until he got off the Qwest board.
The above description of Anschutz's beliefs as "brainless" and "hateful" does a disservice to everyone who takes Wikipedia seriously. (1) The Media Research Council is not "his" - Anschutz simply contributes to the organization. And if "decency" is a negative trait of conservatives ... is "indecency" the currency of liberals? (2) Anschutz did not inherit his businesses. He took the risks necessary and made the investments needed to create success and jobs. (3) The commentator claims that Anschutz has a hatred of reason and science because of he contributed to the Discovery Institute. The facts are, the Anschutz Foundation made a $70,000 grant to the Institute in 2003 for the express purpose of supporting the work of telecom guru George Gilder. The grant had nothing to do with evolution and creationism. In fact, Institute President Bruce Chapman wrote a letter-to-the-editor (Rocky Mountain News) in 2006 citing the fact that Anschutz had not given "one nickle" to their program dealing with evolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jem303 ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of his philanthropy to the Denver Art Museum, the CU Medical School and University Hospital, and other benevolent causes ? I understand not liking the guy or his political views, but the world is not so simple that holding critical conservative views negates all other benevolence. His intro notes "businessman and supporter of conservative Christian causes". Why should he be noted for only these two items, and not his philanthropy ?
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Another point of criticism is that "Anschutz is a frequent donor (usually through his family foundation) to corporate front groups and think tanks involved in climate denial, including the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Heritage Foundation, the Pacific Research Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the Mercatus Center, America's Future Foundation, the Claremont Institute, DonorsTrust, the National Chamber Foundation and The Philanthropy Foundation.", and that he "supported the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, which backs legislation designed to undermine unions and the Discovery Institute which promotes creationism as an acceptable "scientific" view, in public schools." [1] Not a single mention of that, too. The whole wiki page reads like an advertisement for Anschutz. 85.55.201.134 ( talk) 17:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
He is a frequent donor to think tanks and corporate front groups that promote climate change denial, such as the Discovery Institute, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the Heritage Foundation, the Pacific Research Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the Mercatus Center, America's Future Foundation, the Claremont Institute, DonorsTrust, the National Chamber Foundation and The Philanthropy Foundation.[59][60]. Writethisway ( talk) 21:27, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Both Sprint and the fiber optic cable laying company that Phil Anschutz owns (can't recall name of fiber company) should be added. I worked in telecom in 1990's and the industry story about the birth of Sprint was that originally, Southern Pacific Railroad installed fiber-optic cable with a 1 to 1 ratio of the existing copper cable along its railroad right of ways, using an Anschutz-owned installation company. Obviously that resulted in huge excess capacity. There was a map of the fiber optic cable installed and someone (who understood telecom) saw the map and recognized that was the backbone of a long-distance telecom company. Sprint = Southern Pacific Railroad INTernational. That's why the early Sprint commercials were about hearing a pin drop, because they had a fiber optic network (while AT&T and MCI relied heavily on copper). Denver locals (one who worked for Southern Pacific during Anschutz's tenure) have shared that whenever Anschutz sold off companies, he always kept the cable laying company. Amidetx ( talk) 02:25, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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Someone removed the quotes I put around the word "researches" in the sentence about the Discovery Institute. The Discovery Institute certainly funds people of various levels of education and professional experience to write about and promote their patently un-scientific ideas, however, it must be stated that they do not conduct scientific research. They are an activist and proselytizing front for religious anti-evolutionists. To call their propagandizing (which is done under the guise of objectivity and isn't always explicitly religious) "research" is to grossly misunderstand and mislabel them - and to denigrate the word "research". The quotes around the word "researches" have been added back and should not be removed. If you need more information, please see the article about them ( Discovery Institute) and it's talk page. Inoculatedcities 23:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the entire sentence about the Discovery Institute is a POV, and an extremist one at that. For example, it does not "deny evolution", is not Christian (although like just about all organizations, some members are Christians), and has published thousands of pages of scientific research, which the writers of this wiki page could not begin to understand. And, by the way (common myth), it is not "Creationist" either.
For that matter, what is the point in having hypertext links to other Wikipedia pages, if someone is going to reduce an entire organization to a few words of their characterization ? The idea of the hyperlink is to allow people to go to the wikipedia page for Discovery Institute, and make up their own mind (if they are interested), rather than having one person's propaganda be a substitute.
By the way, if you don't think the sentence (and the paragraph about Discovery Institute by the writer in the discussion above) is a slanted POV, then you should look the difference between "anti-Darwinist" and "anti-evolutionist". Discovery Institute is the former and not the latter, which shows the POV.
BTW, I've decided not to edit the page in order to preserve it an example of why Wikipedia is a great example of the destructive side of technology. There will always be a prevailing slant in Wikipedia towards the viewpoint of uncreative and unproductive people - because they are the only people who could possibly be bothered to "monitor" Wikipedia pages - creative and productive people don't have the time. Once before, I got involved in "changing back" a page that had been changed by an uniformed person whose "facts" came on a daily email from his "side", and I gave up because that uninformed person had far more time to be constantly changing it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.126.207.214 ( talk) 20:13, July 4, 2007
this needs to be specified (with sources) or deleted. What fundamentalism? What themes? Are those themes exclusively fundamentalist? Very vague, OR and POV as it stands now. Northfox 12:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Anschutz Entertainment recently purchased a significant (but not majority) share of Oscar De La Hoya's "Golden Boy Promotions.
23:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Somewhat related, I'd like to see a cite on Anschultz's ownerships. I am pretty sure that AEG owns the Staples Center, where the Lakers play, neither Anschultz nor AEG have a stake in the Lakers. 98.154.184.143 ( talk) 01:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
if the foundation for a better life is totally funded by Anshutz, and the page is mostly cites from their site, and it fits right in with all his other funding operations, I think we should merge it into this. 67.204.145.88 ( talk) 20:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Saw Philip Anschutz's profile on facesofphilanthropy.com, noticed his wiki page lacked a philanthropy section, so I added one. Sir. Somerset ( talk) 22:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Comment How is the source of funds relative to an article about The Foundation for a Better Life? They work in 200 countries around the world promoting generosity, hope, integrity, peace, and the like- shouldn't that be the focus rather than who funds them? Maybe funds deserves mention but it should not be the focus of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forbetterlife ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't merge While you can have a section about the foundation on his page, it is best to leave the articles seperate. 71.52.222.71 ( talk) 03:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed the merge proposal from the article because there is no support for the merger. 70.109.182.176 ( talk) 16:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
This section should be titled "Political Advocacy," since that is precisely what it is, and calling it "philanthropy" is as absurd as it is insulting. Arcanicus ( talk) 19:45, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Can anyone tell if The Anschutz Family Foundation and The Anschutz Foundation are the same entity or different entities? I had linked to this page from Man Therapy and then found this bit of confusion. Kirby777 ( talk) 03:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
"The payment was roughly equal to his profit from the practice of IPO "spinning"." C'mon. The contrast is interesting, and entertaining. But let's not go there. GcT ( talk) 11:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
For instance, calling that amendment in Colorado "notorious" - a word which implies it is sinister and evil. Proper for an encyclopedic entry?!?! 192.127.94.7 ( talk) 20:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
some of the chokecherry (wyoming wind energy project) and other info is three years out of date, discussing things expected to happen in 2013 or 2011. - robbin stewart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.90.140.164 ( talk) 23:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Added template for a better lead that summarizes the key facts in a neutral fashion. Not enough context and history in the current version. Maxwell Gyllen ( talk) 09:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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The way the article is written as a piece of propaganda. The angry tone is remarkable to the point of being slanderous. Hawkseye 22:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Angella101 ( talk) 21:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Why is the article so stiff and laudatory? This is a guy who Fortune Magazine (yeah, FORTUNE) called "the greediest executive" on the planet! His phony "Media Research Council" were responsible for over half of the complaints the FCC received last year for "indecency" on television. I mean, come on...the guy is a right-wing apocalyptic evangelical who uses his inherited businesses to further his hateful, brainless variety of Christianity. Not to mention his hatred of reason and science which he furthers by funding the completely bogus creationist "Discovery Institute". His fundamentalism has been widely reported on in the press so why is it not at least documented in the article here? Inoculatedcities 16:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
The comments above deserve a point-by-point response. The Fortune Magazine article which branded Phil Anschutz at the "Greediest executive" failed to provide the full set of facts for the very basis of this outrageous descriptor. As the founder of Qwest and the person who invested hundreds of million dollar in the company, Anschutz was given a certain amount of "founders stock" when Qwest went public. In 1999 Anschutz sold a portion of his Qwest stock through three sales that amounted to approximately 20% of hia Qwest portfolio. The largest of the three was a $1.6 billion sale to Bell South, to which Fortune writer Mark Gimein took strong exception. What Gimein didn't report was the stock sale was required by Bell South because its officials wanted to decrease Anschutz's ownership in Qwest as a predicate to Bell Sounth entering into joint ventures with Qwest and perhaps even a merger. Anschutz held onto the remaining 80% of his original stock for years ... as its value contined to decline. Anschutz didn't sell the remaining stock until he got off the Qwest board.
The above description of Anschutz's beliefs as "brainless" and "hateful" does a disservice to everyone who takes Wikipedia seriously. (1) The Media Research Council is not "his" - Anschutz simply contributes to the organization. And if "decency" is a negative trait of conservatives ... is "indecency" the currency of liberals? (2) Anschutz did not inherit his businesses. He took the risks necessary and made the investments needed to create success and jobs. (3) The commentator claims that Anschutz has a hatred of reason and science because of he contributed to the Discovery Institute. The facts are, the Anschutz Foundation made a $70,000 grant to the Institute in 2003 for the express purpose of supporting the work of telecom guru George Gilder. The grant had nothing to do with evolution and creationism. In fact, Institute President Bruce Chapman wrote a letter-to-the-editor (Rocky Mountain News) in 2006 citing the fact that Anschutz had not given "one nickle" to their program dealing with evolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jem303 ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of his philanthropy to the Denver Art Museum, the CU Medical School and University Hospital, and other benevolent causes ? I understand not liking the guy or his political views, but the world is not so simple that holding critical conservative views negates all other benevolence. His intro notes "businessman and supporter of conservative Christian causes". Why should he be noted for only these two items, and not his philanthropy ?
Miles.obediah (
talk) 15:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Another point of criticism is that "Anschutz is a frequent donor (usually through his family foundation) to corporate front groups and think tanks involved in climate denial, including the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Heritage Foundation, the Pacific Research Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the Mercatus Center, America's Future Foundation, the Claremont Institute, DonorsTrust, the National Chamber Foundation and The Philanthropy Foundation.", and that he "supported the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, which backs legislation designed to undermine unions and the Discovery Institute which promotes creationism as an acceptable "scientific" view, in public schools." [1] Not a single mention of that, too. The whole wiki page reads like an advertisement for Anschutz. 85.55.201.134 ( talk) 17:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
He is a frequent donor to think tanks and corporate front groups that promote climate change denial, such as the Discovery Institute, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the Heritage Foundation, the Pacific Research Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, the Mercatus Center, America's Future Foundation, the Claremont Institute, DonorsTrust, the National Chamber Foundation and The Philanthropy Foundation.[59][60]. Writethisway ( talk) 21:27, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Both Sprint and the fiber optic cable laying company that Phil Anschutz owns (can't recall name of fiber company) should be added. I worked in telecom in 1990's and the industry story about the birth of Sprint was that originally, Southern Pacific Railroad installed fiber-optic cable with a 1 to 1 ratio of the existing copper cable along its railroad right of ways, using an Anschutz-owned installation company. Obviously that resulted in huge excess capacity. There was a map of the fiber optic cable installed and someone (who understood telecom) saw the map and recognized that was the backbone of a long-distance telecom company. Sprint = Southern Pacific Railroad INTernational. That's why the early Sprint commercials were about hearing a pin drop, because they had a fiber optic network (while AT&T and MCI relied heavily on copper). Denver locals (one who worked for Southern Pacific during Anschutz's tenure) have shared that whenever Anschutz sold off companies, he always kept the cable laying company. Amidetx ( talk) 02:25, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
References
Someone removed the quotes I put around the word "researches" in the sentence about the Discovery Institute. The Discovery Institute certainly funds people of various levels of education and professional experience to write about and promote their patently un-scientific ideas, however, it must be stated that they do not conduct scientific research. They are an activist and proselytizing front for religious anti-evolutionists. To call their propagandizing (which is done under the guise of objectivity and isn't always explicitly religious) "research" is to grossly misunderstand and mislabel them - and to denigrate the word "research". The quotes around the word "researches" have been added back and should not be removed. If you need more information, please see the article about them ( Discovery Institute) and it's talk page. Inoculatedcities 23:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the entire sentence about the Discovery Institute is a POV, and an extremist one at that. For example, it does not "deny evolution", is not Christian (although like just about all organizations, some members are Christians), and has published thousands of pages of scientific research, which the writers of this wiki page could not begin to understand. And, by the way (common myth), it is not "Creationist" either.
For that matter, what is the point in having hypertext links to other Wikipedia pages, if someone is going to reduce an entire organization to a few words of their characterization ? The idea of the hyperlink is to allow people to go to the wikipedia page for Discovery Institute, and make up their own mind (if they are interested), rather than having one person's propaganda be a substitute.
By the way, if you don't think the sentence (and the paragraph about Discovery Institute by the writer in the discussion above) is a slanted POV, then you should look the difference between "anti-Darwinist" and "anti-evolutionist". Discovery Institute is the former and not the latter, which shows the POV.
BTW, I've decided not to edit the page in order to preserve it an example of why Wikipedia is a great example of the destructive side of technology. There will always be a prevailing slant in Wikipedia towards the viewpoint of uncreative and unproductive people - because they are the only people who could possibly be bothered to "monitor" Wikipedia pages - creative and productive people don't have the time. Once before, I got involved in "changing back" a page that had been changed by an uniformed person whose "facts" came on a daily email from his "side", and I gave up because that uninformed person had far more time to be constantly changing it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.126.207.214 ( talk) 20:13, July 4, 2007
this needs to be specified (with sources) or deleted. What fundamentalism? What themes? Are those themes exclusively fundamentalist? Very vague, OR and POV as it stands now. Northfox 12:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Anschutz Entertainment recently purchased a significant (but not majority) share of Oscar De La Hoya's "Golden Boy Promotions.
23:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Somewhat related, I'd like to see a cite on Anschultz's ownerships. I am pretty sure that AEG owns the Staples Center, where the Lakers play, neither Anschultz nor AEG have a stake in the Lakers. 98.154.184.143 ( talk) 01:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
if the foundation for a better life is totally funded by Anshutz, and the page is mostly cites from their site, and it fits right in with all his other funding operations, I think we should merge it into this. 67.204.145.88 ( talk) 20:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Saw Philip Anschutz's profile on facesofphilanthropy.com, noticed his wiki page lacked a philanthropy section, so I added one. Sir. Somerset ( talk) 22:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Comment How is the source of funds relative to an article about The Foundation for a Better Life? They work in 200 countries around the world promoting generosity, hope, integrity, peace, and the like- shouldn't that be the focus rather than who funds them? Maybe funds deserves mention but it should not be the focus of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forbetterlife ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't merge While you can have a section about the foundation on his page, it is best to leave the articles seperate. 71.52.222.71 ( talk) 03:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed the merge proposal from the article because there is no support for the merger. 70.109.182.176 ( talk) 16:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
This section should be titled "Political Advocacy," since that is precisely what it is, and calling it "philanthropy" is as absurd as it is insulting. Arcanicus ( talk) 19:45, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Can anyone tell if The Anschutz Family Foundation and The Anschutz Foundation are the same entity or different entities? I had linked to this page from Man Therapy and then found this bit of confusion. Kirby777 ( talk) 03:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
"The payment was roughly equal to his profit from the practice of IPO "spinning"." C'mon. The contrast is interesting, and entertaining. But let's not go there. GcT ( talk) 11:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
For instance, calling that amendment in Colorado "notorious" - a word which implies it is sinister and evil. Proper for an encyclopedic entry?!?! 192.127.94.7 ( talk) 20:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
some of the chokecherry (wyoming wind energy project) and other info is three years out of date, discussing things expected to happen in 2013 or 2011. - robbin stewart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.90.140.164 ( talk) 23:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Added template for a better lead that summarizes the key facts in a neutral fashion. Not enough context and history in the current version. Maxwell Gyllen ( talk) 09:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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