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There is no such motoring journalist as “Archie Vicar”. He is a satirical creation of driventowrite.com. His supposedly in-period reviews are ascribed to non-existent journals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:BC15:9501:F8A4:7A99:F7CA:CBC9 ( talk) 13:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Just realised that as well as the text referenced in footnote 16, footnotes 11, 12 & 13 all *also* refer to false attributions to non-existent journals of satirical writing on driventowrite.com attributed there to “Archie Vicar”.
Well played the satirist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:BC15:9501:F8A4:7A99:F7CA:CBC9 ( talk) 13:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
There's a few bits of info amongst this lot (taken from 4 November 2005 version) which was removed by User:Jamieli's cleanup. Someone needs to go through and add some of this lost info back in - i've not got time right now.
Please delete this from talk page once all lost info (e.g. acceleration times) is re-integrated into article Spute 11:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Is the 505 really made in Africa? Peugeot Nigeria and Peugeot Kenya both offer the 504 alongside more recent models, but not the 505. Perhaps they made the 505 before switching to the 406. -- GagHalfrunt 17:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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Isn't there a better picture for the article sidebar than an estate with creased body panels?-- 74.215.242.83 ( talk) 09:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Mr.choppers The manual of style states:
The way I read the above is that this vehicle is French, designed in France and manufactured in France and other countries but not the United States and shipped not only to the United States but many other places on the planet. It therefore falls under all other articles. Wikipedia is for a worldwide audience therefore the unit used for power should be kilowatt not horsepower. Can you explain why you think it should be your choice and not mine to use horsepower? Anyone can pick and choose a source for units, the fact that they may not have used units we use today is irrelevant. the convert template is more accurate than an editors conversion but you revert my addition of convert templates. Avi8tor ( talk) 12:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
81 kW (109 hp)whereas I changed it to {{cvt|110|hp-metric|kW|0|disp=flip}} which produces
81 kW (110 hp). I disagree with leading for kW for a car which was only ever by described by the manufacturer using metric horsepower. Sources show kilowatts in parentheses, if at all. You changed the output to imperial horsepower, a unit never used by Peugeot on European-market cars, and creating a number which does not appear in references (109hp). I explained this to you two years ago on your talk page. It is also made very clear at MOS:UNIT that we do not convert a unit and then place it in a conversion template:
To avoid problems with rounding and significant figures, for input to conversion templates use only the original quantity found in reliable sources, not one that a source has already converted.
In all other articles, the primary units chosen will be SI units (such as kilograms), non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI, or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as revolutions per minute (rpm) for rotational speed, hands for heights of horses, etc.)
The difference between HP and PS is probably smaller than the difference between HP and BHP, probably rounded to the nearest 10 horsepower, I believe it’s either horsepower or PS or fiscal horsepowerThere is no difference between HP and BHP, those are both equal to 746W, you are very confused. Metric hp equals 735W. I am not even sure what this sentence is supposed to mean. Mr.choppers | ✎ 19:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I believe it’s either horsepower or PS or fiscal horsepowermeans. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
With very old vehicles, due to their very low power output, entering only hp can present as imperial horsepower unless it states fiscal horsepower. What's next, you will change Citroën 2CV to Citroën 1.47kW?
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There is no such motoring journalist as “Archie Vicar”. He is a satirical creation of driventowrite.com. His supposedly in-period reviews are ascribed to non-existent journals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:BC15:9501:F8A4:7A99:F7CA:CBC9 ( talk) 13:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Just realised that as well as the text referenced in footnote 16, footnotes 11, 12 & 13 all *also* refer to false attributions to non-existent journals of satirical writing on driventowrite.com attributed there to “Archie Vicar”.
Well played the satirist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:BC15:9501:F8A4:7A99:F7CA:CBC9 ( talk) 13:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
There's a few bits of info amongst this lot (taken from 4 November 2005 version) which was removed by User:Jamieli's cleanup. Someone needs to go through and add some of this lost info back in - i've not got time right now.
Please delete this from talk page once all lost info (e.g. acceleration times) is re-integrated into article Spute 11:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Is the 505 really made in Africa? Peugeot Nigeria and Peugeot Kenya both offer the 504 alongside more recent models, but not the 505. Perhaps they made the 505 before switching to the 406. -- GagHalfrunt 17:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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Isn't there a better picture for the article sidebar than an estate with creased body panels?-- 74.215.242.83 ( talk) 09:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Mr.choppers The manual of style states:
The way I read the above is that this vehicle is French, designed in France and manufactured in France and other countries but not the United States and shipped not only to the United States but many other places on the planet. It therefore falls under all other articles. Wikipedia is for a worldwide audience therefore the unit used for power should be kilowatt not horsepower. Can you explain why you think it should be your choice and not mine to use horsepower? Anyone can pick and choose a source for units, the fact that they may not have used units we use today is irrelevant. the convert template is more accurate than an editors conversion but you revert my addition of convert templates. Avi8tor ( talk) 12:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
81 kW (109 hp)whereas I changed it to {{cvt|110|hp-metric|kW|0|disp=flip}} which produces
81 kW (110 hp). I disagree with leading for kW for a car which was only ever by described by the manufacturer using metric horsepower. Sources show kilowatts in parentheses, if at all. You changed the output to imperial horsepower, a unit never used by Peugeot on European-market cars, and creating a number which does not appear in references (109hp). I explained this to you two years ago on your talk page. It is also made very clear at MOS:UNIT that we do not convert a unit and then place it in a conversion template:
To avoid problems with rounding and significant figures, for input to conversion templates use only the original quantity found in reliable sources, not one that a source has already converted.
In all other articles, the primary units chosen will be SI units (such as kilograms), non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI, or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as revolutions per minute (rpm) for rotational speed, hands for heights of horses, etc.)
The difference between HP and PS is probably smaller than the difference between HP and BHP, probably rounded to the nearest 10 horsepower, I believe it’s either horsepower or PS or fiscal horsepowerThere is no difference between HP and BHP, those are both equal to 746W, you are very confused. Metric hp equals 735W. I am not even sure what this sentence is supposed to mean. Mr.choppers | ✎ 19:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I believe it’s either horsepower or PS or fiscal horsepowermeans. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
With very old vehicles, due to their very low power output, entering only hp can present as imperial horsepower unless it states fiscal horsepower. What's next, you will change Citroën 2CV to Citroën 1.47kW?