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The Stockwell Strangler article on Wikipedia says that he (Kenneth Erskine) saved Peter Sutcliffe from a Broadmoor attempted murder attempt. If the source is accurate it should be in both articles, but if not true then it should be in neither article of course. Certainly it being in one article but not the other isn't right whatever truth is decided about it - /info/en/?search=Kenneth_Erskine#Incarceration — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 ( talk) 20:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Request to change any reference to the word ‘prostitute’ to sex worker unless a direct quote, in which case it should be in quotation marks While sex worker does cover many fields it is perfectly adequate description in the circumstances. The is especially necessary as the police force has been condemned for jumping to conclusions about the victims of Peter Sutcliffe. The way victims has been spoken about is a point of contention and in order to show respect for victims and their families the language used should be updated to meet modern standards. Sexismcorrector23 ( talk) 15:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. -- L. P. Hartley, The Go-Between (1953)
I’m not sure why such narrow wording is necessary, PS would have murdered a sex worker or woman of any kind had they been walking down the street at the exact time. This adherence to such a word further enforces the idea that they were killed because they exchanged sexual acts for money and that even other ‘more innocent’ sex workers would not have been targeted. The type of sex work is irrelevant, especially given that women working in other industries and students were also targeted because they were alone at night. It seems noting more that misogynistic that a small number of influential editors sit on this page an immediately undo edits designed to modernise and correct some of the wrongs done to these poor victims. Sexismcorrector23 ( talk) 17:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
.. would have murdered a sex worker or woman of any kind"? Not according to Sutcliffe himself, who claimed ".. he had heard voices that ordered him to kill prostitutes while working as a gravedigger". Nor the four psychiatrists who testified that he was a paranoid schizophrenic? Martinevans123 ( talk) 21:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
User:Wiki2725154 your recent edit here is your only edit to Wikipedia so far. Have you read the discussion here from two years ago? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Should the years active not be before 1975 because he committed murder as well as other attacks that he was or is the prime suspect in but never been charged before 1975. In February 2022 Yorkshire Ripper: The Secret Murders program talk about before the 13 murders he was convicted of and in 2022’s The Ripper Speaks: the Lost Tapes he talks about other crimes including murder before 1975.
https://www.channel5.com/show/the-ripper-speaks-the-lost-tapes
https://www.itv.com/hub/yorkshire-ripper-the-secret-murders/10a0680a0001 — Preceding
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The link after the quote from Sutcliffe’s father that ends “turned his mind” (currently number 12) is a link to an interview with Carl Sutcliffe, a brother, not the father. It’s a good article; just seems to be in the wrong place. tharsaile ( talk) 21:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
In thr "Early Life" section, it says "I remember Peter were [ sic] just standing there — he were [sic] shook rigid."
I want to remove "[sic]" from that. "Were" is a perfectly normal substitute for "was" in the daily speech of a majority of people from the north of England, and a large part of the Midlands. "[Sic]" generally has the connotation "Yeah, he really said that!", as if that form of English is somehow degraded or wrong. We don't generally editorialize like that when people use vernacular English.
I'll take it out of nobody objects in the next day or so.
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The Stockwell Strangler article on Wikipedia says that he (Kenneth Erskine) saved Peter Sutcliffe from a Broadmoor attempted murder attempt. If the source is accurate it should be in both articles, but if not true then it should be in neither article of course. Certainly it being in one article but not the other isn't right whatever truth is decided about it - /info/en/?search=Kenneth_Erskine#Incarceration — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 ( talk) 20:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Request to change any reference to the word ‘prostitute’ to sex worker unless a direct quote, in which case it should be in quotation marks While sex worker does cover many fields it is perfectly adequate description in the circumstances. The is especially necessary as the police force has been condemned for jumping to conclusions about the victims of Peter Sutcliffe. The way victims has been spoken about is a point of contention and in order to show respect for victims and their families the language used should be updated to meet modern standards. Sexismcorrector23 ( talk) 15:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. -- L. P. Hartley, The Go-Between (1953)
I’m not sure why such narrow wording is necessary, PS would have murdered a sex worker or woman of any kind had they been walking down the street at the exact time. This adherence to such a word further enforces the idea that they were killed because they exchanged sexual acts for money and that even other ‘more innocent’ sex workers would not have been targeted. The type of sex work is irrelevant, especially given that women working in other industries and students were also targeted because they were alone at night. It seems noting more that misogynistic that a small number of influential editors sit on this page an immediately undo edits designed to modernise and correct some of the wrongs done to these poor victims. Sexismcorrector23 ( talk) 17:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
.. would have murdered a sex worker or woman of any kind"? Not according to Sutcliffe himself, who claimed ".. he had heard voices that ordered him to kill prostitutes while working as a gravedigger". Nor the four psychiatrists who testified that he was a paranoid schizophrenic? Martinevans123 ( talk) 21:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
User:Wiki2725154 your recent edit here is your only edit to Wikipedia so far. Have you read the discussion here from two years ago? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Should the years active not be before 1975 because he committed murder as well as other attacks that he was or is the prime suspect in but never been charged before 1975. In February 2022 Yorkshire Ripper: The Secret Murders program talk about before the 13 murders he was convicted of and in 2022’s The Ripper Speaks: the Lost Tapes he talks about other crimes including murder before 1975.
https://www.channel5.com/show/the-ripper-speaks-the-lost-tapes
https://www.itv.com/hub/yorkshire-ripper-the-secret-murders/10a0680a0001 — Preceding
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The link after the quote from Sutcliffe’s father that ends “turned his mind” (currently number 12) is a link to an interview with Carl Sutcliffe, a brother, not the father. It’s a good article; just seems to be in the wrong place. tharsaile ( talk) 21:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
In thr "Early Life" section, it says "I remember Peter were [ sic] just standing there — he were [sic] shook rigid."
I want to remove "[sic]" from that. "Were" is a perfectly normal substitute for "was" in the daily speech of a majority of people from the north of England, and a large part of the Midlands. "[Sic]" generally has the connotation "Yeah, he really said that!", as if that form of English is somehow degraded or wrong. We don't generally editorialize like that when people use vernacular English.
I'll take it out of nobody objects in the next day or so.
MrDemeanour (
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18:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)