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Someone recently edited the article to remove the title "Honourable" suggesting that with the dissolution of the 38th Parliament, there was no longer a Speaker, and as such Mr. Milliken was no longer entitled to the title. This was reverted because the Parliament of Canada Act clearly contradicts this. Section 53 of the Act states that, "53. On a dissolution of Parliament, every member of the Board and the Speaker and Deputy Speaker shall be deemed to remain in office as such, as if there had been no dissolution, until their replacement." Consequently, Mr. Millken remains Speaker until such time as a new one is elected, and as such is entitled to use the title. Also, should he not be re-elected as Speaker, he may still receive permission from the Governor General to continue using the title, in accordance with s.13 of the Table of Titles.
According to the Wikipedia style manual we should not be using honorifics such as The Honourable at the beginning of entries. Please see the section of the style book on honorifics. Thanks. Homey 19:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
We should remove the honourific immediately. It is against the Wiki style guide and this particular title is not part of the Canadian honours system. It is essentially an artificial title. If Milliken is entitled to this term then whats to stop anyone from doing the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.10.42.243 ( talk) 17:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Someone added in Rodolphe Lemieux as the first opposition Speaker to serve in the House of Commons, and indicating that should Mr. Milliken be re-elected as Speaker, he would be the third opposition Speaker. While this is technically correct (Lemieux, a Liberal, served as Speaker during Meighen's brief second tenure as PM), the circumstances were so different, I wonder if they truly merit inclusion.
Whereas Jerome was appointed by Clark, and should be Milliken be re-elected, it would be under Harper, in the case of Lemieux, he was appointed not by Meighen, but by Mackenzie King. When Mackenzie King resigned and Meighen formed a government, the Ministry changed, but the 15th Parliament continued and Lemieux continued as Speaker. It is Meighen's becoming PM (see King-Byng affair), not Lemieux being Speaker that is remarkable in that situation.
I'd appreciate hearing thoughts from others as to whether or not this reference should remain as I frankly consider it to be irrelevant. [unsigned]
I've adjusted the wording, maintaining Jerome's reference in the main text while relegating Lemieux to a footnote. I trust this will be satisfactory to all parties. CJCurrie 19:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I was just reading over this page, and it seems somewhat lacking in a professional and encyclopedic tone. In early life and career, for example, it says that Miliken worked at a "prestigious" Kingston law firm, but doesn't even say the name of the law firm. Perhaps some editing is in order? Mllefantine ( talk) 17:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Recently, the article was edited to include a reference to the Question of Privilege raised with respect to the Afghan detainee documents. Specifically, the addition suggests that the opposition parties have teamed up to try to get Milliken to force the government to comply with the order, and to rule that they had violated parliamentary privilege.
I removed the new section for a couple of reasons. First, and most importantly, it is inaccurate. Milliken has no power to compel the government to comply -- that power belongs to the House. Further, he has not been asked to rule that the government has violated parliamentary privilege or is in contempt of the House, as that is not his call to make. What he has asked to do is rule whether there is a prima facie question of privilege. It is then up to the House, not the Speaker, to make a determination of whether the government or any person is in contempt, and whatever corrective action should be taken. Secondly, given the foregoing, I do not think it is worthy of an inclusion in his page. When he rules, should there be something remarkable about that ruling, perhaps a mention should be returned. But at this point, I don't believe his connection to the issue is sufficient for its inclusion. PoliSciMaster ( talk) 01:29, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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I read this statement: On March 9, 2011, Milliken made two historic rulings holding the government of Stephen Harper in contempt of Parliament.[38] and check the reference [38]. The reference is to a Globe and Mail article which has a title: "With contempt rulings, Milliken caps career filled with firsts ". However, the article gives no details about the contempt issue or Millken's role in it.
At best, this is a very poor reference. At worst, it is a false or misleading statement, as it was my understanding that parliamentItalic text found the government in contempt, not the speaker.
Please clarify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.230.22 ( talk) 17:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Is Peter Milliken still styled The Honourable? He is no longer an M.P. or the Speaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.55.165.152 ( talk) 20:03, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a word missing in the sentence in the second paragraph under early life. It reads " He also often canoes". Or if not this sentence should just be corrected - remove the also: i.e. He also canoes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruxisme ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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Someone recently edited the article to remove the title "Honourable" suggesting that with the dissolution of the 38th Parliament, there was no longer a Speaker, and as such Mr. Milliken was no longer entitled to the title. This was reverted because the Parliament of Canada Act clearly contradicts this. Section 53 of the Act states that, "53. On a dissolution of Parliament, every member of the Board and the Speaker and Deputy Speaker shall be deemed to remain in office as such, as if there had been no dissolution, until their replacement." Consequently, Mr. Millken remains Speaker until such time as a new one is elected, and as such is entitled to use the title. Also, should he not be re-elected as Speaker, he may still receive permission from the Governor General to continue using the title, in accordance with s.13 of the Table of Titles.
According to the Wikipedia style manual we should not be using honorifics such as The Honourable at the beginning of entries. Please see the section of the style book on honorifics. Thanks. Homey 19:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
We should remove the honourific immediately. It is against the Wiki style guide and this particular title is not part of the Canadian honours system. It is essentially an artificial title. If Milliken is entitled to this term then whats to stop anyone from doing the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.10.42.243 ( talk) 17:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Someone added in Rodolphe Lemieux as the first opposition Speaker to serve in the House of Commons, and indicating that should Mr. Milliken be re-elected as Speaker, he would be the third opposition Speaker. While this is technically correct (Lemieux, a Liberal, served as Speaker during Meighen's brief second tenure as PM), the circumstances were so different, I wonder if they truly merit inclusion.
Whereas Jerome was appointed by Clark, and should be Milliken be re-elected, it would be under Harper, in the case of Lemieux, he was appointed not by Meighen, but by Mackenzie King. When Mackenzie King resigned and Meighen formed a government, the Ministry changed, but the 15th Parliament continued and Lemieux continued as Speaker. It is Meighen's becoming PM (see King-Byng affair), not Lemieux being Speaker that is remarkable in that situation.
I'd appreciate hearing thoughts from others as to whether or not this reference should remain as I frankly consider it to be irrelevant. [unsigned]
I've adjusted the wording, maintaining Jerome's reference in the main text while relegating Lemieux to a footnote. I trust this will be satisfactory to all parties. CJCurrie 19:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I was just reading over this page, and it seems somewhat lacking in a professional and encyclopedic tone. In early life and career, for example, it says that Miliken worked at a "prestigious" Kingston law firm, but doesn't even say the name of the law firm. Perhaps some editing is in order? Mllefantine ( talk) 17:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Recently, the article was edited to include a reference to the Question of Privilege raised with respect to the Afghan detainee documents. Specifically, the addition suggests that the opposition parties have teamed up to try to get Milliken to force the government to comply with the order, and to rule that they had violated parliamentary privilege.
I removed the new section for a couple of reasons. First, and most importantly, it is inaccurate. Milliken has no power to compel the government to comply -- that power belongs to the House. Further, he has not been asked to rule that the government has violated parliamentary privilege or is in contempt of the House, as that is not his call to make. What he has asked to do is rule whether there is a prima facie question of privilege. It is then up to the House, not the Speaker, to make a determination of whether the government or any person is in contempt, and whatever corrective action should be taken. Secondly, given the foregoing, I do not think it is worthy of an inclusion in his page. When he rules, should there be something remarkable about that ruling, perhaps a mention should be returned. But at this point, I don't believe his connection to the issue is sufficient for its inclusion. PoliSciMaster ( talk) 01:29, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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I read this statement: On March 9, 2011, Milliken made two historic rulings holding the government of Stephen Harper in contempt of Parliament.[38] and check the reference [38]. The reference is to a Globe and Mail article which has a title: "With contempt rulings, Milliken caps career filled with firsts ". However, the article gives no details about the contempt issue or Millken's role in it.
At best, this is a very poor reference. At worst, it is a false or misleading statement, as it was my understanding that parliamentItalic text found the government in contempt, not the speaker.
Please clarify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.230.22 ( talk) 17:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Is Peter Milliken still styled The Honourable? He is no longer an M.P. or the Speaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.55.165.152 ( talk) 20:03, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a word missing in the sentence in the second paragraph under early life. It reads " He also often canoes". Or if not this sentence should just be corrected - remove the also: i.e. He also canoes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruxisme ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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