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Changing to Peter Leko' as this is the common English spelling (please note that that this is the english wikipedia), as per WP:Naming. Themindset 22:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
On the title dispute: note that names of people are very rarely stripped of accents in Wikipedia articles, which is imho both more correct and more informative. A link page is usually placed at the accentless version to facilitate search. 84.0.216.71 12:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Is the Serbian spelling of his name relevant, being of Hungarian ethnicity and bearing Hungarian citizenship for most of his life? Also note that birth as a Yugoslav citizen doesn't make one be (Yugo)Slav-born culturewise. This term to put his country of birth may suggest that he dropped another nationality for being Hungarian, which is not the case. I suggest a change to born in Yugoslavia. 84.0.216.71 12:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
His name is Lékó Péter, or Péter Lékó if you insist on Western name order. It's his official name. Don't use something which is clearly wrong just because it's common. 178.164.173.211 ( talk) 21:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that Leko has been marked (as of wikipedia's article, anyway) as "someone with eidetic memory". That's something pretty rare I guess... which should be somewhat documented SOMEWHERE. However, nowhere in the article it explains why he belongs in that cateory, nor does it mention anywhere anything at all about it.
I don't think it belongs there, long story short (I don't think this can be true). If it does, then someone should try to document it. For the moment, it's misleading, at the very best.
Seigneur101 03:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I removed the claim of eidetic memory. While Peter has a very good memory, he sometimes forgets his opening analysis. I even found one reference to this here http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3818 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennedik ( talk • contribs) 23:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The page name has been discussed before on this talk page. I have rarely seen "Péter Lékó" in any English language source except for wikipedia. Peter Leko's own official website http://lekochess.com consistently uses "Leko", and specifically on his biography it says
and so on, "Peter Leko" is used exclusively on this page. Using google to search http://lekochess.com for "Lékó" gives only a couple of instances, whereas "Leko", as expected, gives many. The wikipedia page was moved from Peter Leko to Péter Lékó in August 2006. I think that move was a mistake and should be reversed, as as far as I know, the spelling with diacritics is rarely used in English. See WP:ENGLISH: "If you are talking about a person, country, town, film, book, or video game, use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works." Quale 02:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
This page has been moved back and forth a few times recently. It appears above that consensus was for Peter Leko, perhaps those who object to that could give their reasons here? Pawnkingthree ( talk) 19:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
His name is Lékó Péter, or Péter Lékó if you insist on Western name order. It's his official name. Don't use something which is clearly wrong just because it's common. The diacritics are not used in English sources for practical reasons, but it isn't really a different spelling. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which shouldn't have a problem writing names correctly. 178.164.173.211 ( talk) 22:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No consensus for the move. Parsecboy ( talk) 01:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Peter Leko → Péter Lékó — As elsewhere on Wikipedia, we use Latin alphabet diacritics when applicable. The name of this person, Hungarian as it is, has diacritics (and that is easily verifiable). The fact that most English sources do not show the diacritics is due to the very same old stupid reasons: lack of diacritics in English keyboards; unawareness of their existence; carelessness. None of these reasons is encyclopedic and for a long time Wikipedia has ensured that they do not constitute grounds for the elimination of diacritics. This article should follow, as it's one of the few remaining bastions of title inaccuracy. — Hús ö nd 11:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's naming conventions.Sigh. It's just been renamed again, without discussion. This goes against consensus (here), goes against most common English usage, and (the clincher for me), goes against Leko's personal website http://www,lekochess.com . I intend to get it renamed back. Peter Ballard ( talk) 06:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
If we are going to "do it right", shouldn't it be in the order he uses, i.e. "Lékó Péter"? Peter Ballard ( talk) 04:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
The info box gives his full name as "Peter Leko", but FIDE gives a middle initial of M, so that is not his full name. Bubba73 (talk), 07:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that I'm doing a big overhaul of this page, but I'm in need of images to bring into the article. In particular I'd like one of Leko at around the time he was a WC challenger. There are images online, for example one where he is against Topalov during the 2002 Candidates final, but frankly the regulations on images confound me and I'm not really sure how to proceed. For Peter Leko I'm relying on the 21 images on WikiCommons but its not really enough to do the job properly. Any help greatly appreciated Jkmaskell 17:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkmaskell ( talk • contribs)
While the rules on assessing articles don't prohibit me from upgrading the quality class to B, I don't think it would be right, having invested so much in the article. I think it meets the six B-Class criteria and meets the standards of other B-class articles on this WikiProject. There's no need for a formal review as I'm not recommending GA but I'd be grateful if someone would please give the article a once over. Suggestions for improvement would be welcome. Jkmaskell ( talk) 15:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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Changing to Peter Leko' as this is the common English spelling (please note that that this is the english wikipedia), as per WP:Naming. Themindset 22:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
On the title dispute: note that names of people are very rarely stripped of accents in Wikipedia articles, which is imho both more correct and more informative. A link page is usually placed at the accentless version to facilitate search. 84.0.216.71 12:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Is the Serbian spelling of his name relevant, being of Hungarian ethnicity and bearing Hungarian citizenship for most of his life? Also note that birth as a Yugoslav citizen doesn't make one be (Yugo)Slav-born culturewise. This term to put his country of birth may suggest that he dropped another nationality for being Hungarian, which is not the case. I suggest a change to born in Yugoslavia. 84.0.216.71 12:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
His name is Lékó Péter, or Péter Lékó if you insist on Western name order. It's his official name. Don't use something which is clearly wrong just because it's common. 178.164.173.211 ( talk) 21:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that Leko has been marked (as of wikipedia's article, anyway) as "someone with eidetic memory". That's something pretty rare I guess... which should be somewhat documented SOMEWHERE. However, nowhere in the article it explains why he belongs in that cateory, nor does it mention anywhere anything at all about it.
I don't think it belongs there, long story short (I don't think this can be true). If it does, then someone should try to document it. For the moment, it's misleading, at the very best.
Seigneur101 03:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I removed the claim of eidetic memory. While Peter has a very good memory, he sometimes forgets his opening analysis. I even found one reference to this here http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3818 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennedik ( talk • contribs) 23:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The page name has been discussed before on this talk page. I have rarely seen "Péter Lékó" in any English language source except for wikipedia. Peter Leko's own official website http://lekochess.com consistently uses "Leko", and specifically on his biography it says
and so on, "Peter Leko" is used exclusively on this page. Using google to search http://lekochess.com for "Lékó" gives only a couple of instances, whereas "Leko", as expected, gives many. The wikipedia page was moved from Peter Leko to Péter Lékó in August 2006. I think that move was a mistake and should be reversed, as as far as I know, the spelling with diacritics is rarely used in English. See WP:ENGLISH: "If you are talking about a person, country, town, film, book, or video game, use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works." Quale 02:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
This page has been moved back and forth a few times recently. It appears above that consensus was for Peter Leko, perhaps those who object to that could give their reasons here? Pawnkingthree ( talk) 19:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
His name is Lékó Péter, or Péter Lékó if you insist on Western name order. It's his official name. Don't use something which is clearly wrong just because it's common. The diacritics are not used in English sources for practical reasons, but it isn't really a different spelling. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which shouldn't have a problem writing names correctly. 178.164.173.211 ( talk) 22:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No consensus for the move. Parsecboy ( talk) 01:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Peter Leko → Péter Lékó — As elsewhere on Wikipedia, we use Latin alphabet diacritics when applicable. The name of this person, Hungarian as it is, has diacritics (and that is easily verifiable). The fact that most English sources do not show the diacritics is due to the very same old stupid reasons: lack of diacritics in English keyboards; unawareness of their existence; carelessness. None of these reasons is encyclopedic and for a long time Wikipedia has ensured that they do not constitute grounds for the elimination of diacritics. This article should follow, as it's one of the few remaining bastions of title inaccuracy. — Hús ö nd 11:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.Sigh. It's just been renamed again, without discussion. This goes against consensus (here), goes against most common English usage, and (the clincher for me), goes against Leko's personal website http://www,lekochess.com . I intend to get it renamed back. Peter Ballard ( talk) 06:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
If we are going to "do it right", shouldn't it be in the order he uses, i.e. "Lékó Péter"? Peter Ballard ( talk) 04:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
The info box gives his full name as "Peter Leko", but FIDE gives a middle initial of M, so that is not his full name. Bubba73 (talk), 07:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that I'm doing a big overhaul of this page, but I'm in need of images to bring into the article. In particular I'd like one of Leko at around the time he was a WC challenger. There are images online, for example one where he is against Topalov during the 2002 Candidates final, but frankly the regulations on images confound me and I'm not really sure how to proceed. For Peter Leko I'm relying on the 21 images on WikiCommons but its not really enough to do the job properly. Any help greatly appreciated Jkmaskell 17:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkmaskell ( talk • contribs)
While the rules on assessing articles don't prohibit me from upgrading the quality class to B, I don't think it would be right, having invested so much in the article. I think it meets the six B-Class criteria and meets the standards of other B-class articles on this WikiProject. There's no need for a formal review as I'm not recommending GA but I'd be grateful if someone would please give the article a once over. Suggestions for improvement would be welcome. Jkmaskell ( talk) 15:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)